Trump meeting with Putin in Alaska on Friday to pursue an end to the War in Ukraine.

burn1986
Posts
12246
Joined
4/16/2010
Location
bossier city, LA, USA
8/18/2025 10:39am Edited Date/Time 8/18/2025 10:43am
Spurdo wrote:
Boys and girls, please put aside your Left vs. Right political biases for just a few, and answer me this - is the Average Joe just...

Boys and girls, please put aside your Left vs. Right political biases for just a few, and answer me this - is the Average Joe just suppose to pledge allegiance to Ukraine, and pretend they arent a leach on EVERY SINGLE U.S. taxpayer? Why will NO ONE acknowledge the RAMPANT corruption that has plagued the country of Ukraine for the last 50+ years? Ultimately, it feels like a regime change of Russia is the ultimate goal (bought and paid for by the broken backs of the U.S. taxpayer) here. Why will no one acknowledge that this war is so unpopular, even Ukrainians are bombing THEIR OWN military recrutment headquarters? And of course, how quickly we've forgotten about the peace talks at the White House when Zelenskyy walked out, not wanting ANY agreement at all, just more tax payer $$. 

Yep. There’s a push to get the US drawn into this conflict (now that Trump is the potus) regardless of expense and US loss. 

But we need to let Trump his team do their thing and see if they can broker a peace deal. If they can, it’s a win win. If they can’t, then we’ll see what the plan is. But, right now is the middle of the process. 

2
2
soggy
Posts
8754
Joined
12/3/2018
Location
USA
8/18/2025 10:50am
TalinH112 wrote:
That’s never gonna happen through sanctions, you want that it’s American boots on the ground and we aren’t stopping at the fuckin border. You have to...

That’s never gonna happen through sanctions, you want that it’s American boots on the ground and we aren’t stopping at the fuckin border. You have to realize what your asking is not going to happen without a sharp increase in violence, death and destruction. You can’t have it both ways, want the death to stop? Make a deal, wanna try and play super hero pup and justice warrior? Keep fighting and see what happens, they stand to lose everything in this scenario not just a chunk of land that they’ve been fighting over for the last 15 years anyhow. 

I believe it would be at least worth the trying the ‘extreme consequences’ that trump mentioned before the meeting then rolling over and letting Putin pet our belly. 

1
2
TalinH112
Posts
1427
Joined
1/30/2022
Location
Belgrade, MT, USA
8/18/2025 11:01am
TalinH112 wrote:
That’s never gonna happen through sanctions, you want that it’s American boots on the ground and we aren’t stopping at the fuckin border. You have to...

That’s never gonna happen through sanctions, you want that it’s American boots on the ground and we aren’t stopping at the fuckin border. You have to realize what your asking is not going to happen without a sharp increase in violence, death and destruction. You can’t have it both ways, want the death to stop? Make a deal, wanna try and play super hero pup and justice warrior? Keep fighting and see what happens, they stand to lose everything in this scenario not just a chunk of land that they’ve been fighting over for the last 15 years anyhow. 

soggy wrote:
I believe it would be at least worth the trying the ‘extreme consequences’ that trump mentioned before the meeting then rolling over and letting Putin pet...

I believe it would be at least worth the trying the ‘extreme consequences’ that trump mentioned before the meeting then rolling over and letting Putin pet our belly. 

I agree with you. I guess in conclusion, we will all have to wait and see what happens. 

soggy
Posts
8754
Joined
12/3/2018
Location
USA
8/18/2025 11:22am
TalinH112 wrote:

I agree with you. I guess in conclusion, we will all have to wait and see what happens. 

That’s all we can do. I just don’t get why trump changed his tune so fast on extreme consequences to Ukraine needs to forfeit its land and people unless Putin has some power over trump

1
2

The Shop

TalinH112
Posts
1427
Joined
1/30/2022
Location
Belgrade, MT, USA
8/18/2025 11:36am
TalinH112 wrote:

I agree with you. I guess in conclusion, we will all have to wait and see what happens. 

soggy wrote:
That’s all we can do. I just don’t get why trump changed his tune so fast on extreme consequences to Ukraine needs to forfeit its land...

That’s all we can do. I just don’t get why trump changed his tune so fast on extreme consequences to Ukraine needs to forfeit its land and people unless Putin has some power over trump

Could be that Putin gave him more than he was expecting in the meeting and now feels he is closer to a deal than he was when he entered the meeting, he will keep the extreme consequences in his back pocket in case he needs them but will let things play out organically first. Again that is purely speculation on my part. 🤷🏻

1
akillerwombat
Posts
3211
Joined
10/16/2013
Location
Los Angeles, CA, USA
8/18/2025 11:48am
soggy wrote:
That’s all we can do. I just don’t get why trump changed his tune so fast on extreme consequences to Ukraine needs to forfeit its land...

That’s all we can do. I just don’t get why trump changed his tune so fast on extreme consequences to Ukraine needs to forfeit its land and people unless Putin has some power over trump

Putin has the ultimate power over Trump; he knows Trump will do anything to try and win his respect.

Anything above and beyond that is just icing on the cake.

1
5
Zycki11
Posts
7801
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Edwardsville, IL, USA
8/18/2025 11:56am Edited Date/Time 8/18/2025 11:57am
soggy wrote:
That’s all we can do. I just don’t get why trump changed his tune so fast on extreme consequences to Ukraine needs to forfeit its land...

That’s all we can do. I just don’t get why trump changed his tune so fast on extreme consequences to Ukraine needs to forfeit its land and people unless Putin has some power over trump

Putin has the ultimate power over Trump; he knows Trump will do anything to try and win his respect.Anything above and beyond that is just icing...

Putin has the ultimate power over Trump; he knows Trump will do anything to try and win his respect.

Anything above and beyond that is just icing on the cake.

Ah yes Putin has the ultimate power over Trump... just like he did in 2016 right!? Exactly how does your brain equate that Trump "wants to try and win his respect"? We are a larger, more funded, better armed country.  Another one of your off the wall brain buster comments lmao. 

2
3
akillerwombat
Posts
3211
Joined
10/16/2013
Location
Los Angeles, CA, USA
8/18/2025 12:01pm
Zycki11 wrote:
Ah yes Putin has the ultimate power over Trump... just like he did in 2016 right!? Exactly how does your brain equate that Trump "wants to...

Ah yes Putin has the ultimate power over Trump... just like he did in 2016 right!? Exactly how does your brain equate that Trump "wants to try and win his respect"? We are a larger, more funded, better armed country.  Another one of your off the wall brain buster comments lmao. 

"We are a larger, more funded, better armed country." doesn't mean Trump has more power than Putin.

Surely someone as smart as you would be capable of understanding that.

1
5
Zycki11
Posts
7801
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Edwardsville, IL, USA
8/18/2025 12:02pm

Guys... Trump is meeting with Zelensky again. Must be about wanting to bow down to Putin and doing whatever the super strong Russians want.  I mean what else could it be about right? 

The stupidity, and lack of actual thought process and blindly following in this thread is beyond astonishing. The same group claiming the same crazy antics that have been proven wrong time and time again and they are still here, talking amongst themselves.  "trump is going senile!, Trump is evil and is only feeding himself! Trump just wants Putins Penis, The Epstein files!(still can't wrap my head around this one, well known Dems all over it and yet its Trump who is hiding... got it).  

Good gravy people. Get off your news and look at things for yourself. The picture is not only better, it is down right obvious 

6
1
TeamGreen
Posts
37032
Joined
11/25/2008
Location
Thru-out, CA, USA
8/18/2025 12:05pm
Zycki11 wrote:
Guys... Trump is meeting with Zelensky again. Must be about wanting to bow down to Putin and doing whatever the super strong Russians want.  I mean...

Guys... Trump is meeting with Zelensky again. Must be about wanting to bow down to Putin and doing whatever the super strong Russians want.  I mean what else could it be about right? 

The stupidity, and lack of actual thought process and blindly following in this thread is beyond astonishing. The same group claiming the same crazy antics that have been proven wrong time and time again and they are still here, talking amongst themselves.  "trump is going senile!, Trump is evil and is only feeding himself! Trump just wants Putins Penis, The Epstein files!(still can't wrap my head around this one, well known Dems all over it and yet its Trump who is hiding... got it).  

Good gravy people. Get off your news and look at things for yourself. The picture is not only better, it is down right obvious 

But, but, but…

The Red Carpet!

The Fly-Over!

He actually shook Putin’s hand! 🤣

IMG 1580.png?VersionId=S01SRZU59Xki1NOaCxRe9qRg9t2IMG 1579 0.png?VersionId=mcRX.XQmuBG gZNcwIYgXfrA3ftS8AxIMG 1578.png?VersionId=FLIbZyYIn8tOWyKaa5HGqi
 

3
1
Zycki11
Posts
7801
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Edwardsville, IL, USA
8/18/2025 12:06pm
Zycki11 wrote:
Ah yes Putin has the ultimate power over Trump... just like he did in 2016 right!? Exactly how does your brain equate that Trump "wants to...

Ah yes Putin has the ultimate power over Trump... just like he did in 2016 right!? Exactly how does your brain equate that Trump "wants to try and win his respect"? We are a larger, more funded, better armed country.  Another one of your off the wall brain buster comments lmao. 

"We are a larger, more funded, better armed country." doesn't mean Trump has more power than Putin.Surely someone as smart as you would be...

"We are a larger, more funded, better armed country." doesn't mean Trump has more power than Putin.

Surely someone as smart as you would be capable of understanding that.

Ah the old dance around again... Right so now, its about Putin being more "powerful"... Lets check, Russia can't even defeat Ukraine, and our bombers wipe out an entire countries nuclear capabilities in one run... When you say power, are you referencing within their own respective countries? 

2
1
TeamGreen
Posts
37032
Joined
11/25/2008
Location
Thru-out, CA, USA
8/18/2025 12:09pm Edited Date/Time 8/18/2025 12:22pm
Zycki11 wrote:
Ah yes Putin has the ultimate power over Trump... just like he did in 2016 right!? Exactly how does your brain equate that Trump "wants to...

Ah yes Putin has the ultimate power over Trump... just like he did in 2016 right!? Exactly how does your brain equate that Trump "wants to try and win his respect"? We are a larger, more funded, better armed country.  Another one of your off the wall brain buster comments lmao. 

"We are a larger, more funded, better armed country." doesn't mean Trump has more power than Putin.Surely someone as smart as you would be...

"We are a larger, more funded, better armed country." doesn't mean Trump has more power than Putin.

Surely someone as smart as you would be capable of understanding that.

Zycki11 wrote:
Ah the old dance around again... Right so now, its about Putin being more "powerful"... Lets check, Russia can't even defeat Ukraine, and our bombers wipe...

Ah the old dance around again... Right so now, its about Putin being more "powerful"... Lets check, Russia can't even defeat Ukraine, and our bombers wipe out an entire countries nuclear capabilities in one run... When you say power, are you referencing within their own respective countries? 

Wait one damn minute!

With that sort of reasoning…that would make Friday’s fly-over a “flex” on The Donald’s part….?

Nah! 🤣

1
1
akillerwombat
Posts
3211
Joined
10/16/2013
Location
Los Angeles, CA, USA
8/18/2025 12:15pm
Zycki11 wrote:
Ah the old dance around again... Right so now, its about Putin being more "powerful"... Lets check, Russia can't even defeat Ukraine, and our bombers wipe...

Ah the old dance around again... Right so now, its about Putin being more "powerful"... Lets check, Russia can't even defeat Ukraine, and our bombers wipe out an entire countries nuclear capabilities in one run... When you say power, are you referencing within their own respective countries? 

It's always been about Trump wishing he had Putin's power.

1
6
TeamGreen
Posts
37032
Joined
11/25/2008
Location
Thru-out, CA, USA
8/18/2025 12:39pm

Well, speaking of Trump meeting with world leaders…

He just sat with representatives from Europe/NATO …& they’re talking about NATOish security guarantees for Ukraine.

The process is moving forward.

Nice. 

3
2
burn1986
Posts
12246
Joined
4/16/2010
Location
bossier city, LA, USA
8/18/2025 12:48pm
TeamGreen wrote:
But, but, but…The Red Carpet!The Fly-Over!He actually shook Putin’s hand! 🤣 

But, but, but…

The Red Carpet!

The Fly-Over!

He actually shook Putin’s hand! 🤣

IMG 1580.png?VersionId=S01SRZU59Xki1NOaCxRe9qRg9t2IMG 1579 0.png?VersionId=mcRX.XQmuBG gZNcwIYgXfrA3ftS8AxIMG 1578.png?VersionId=FLIbZyYIn8tOWyKaa5HGqi
 

And yet he invaded under every one of these except one. T

1
1
akillerwombat
Posts
3211
Joined
10/16/2013
Location
Los Angeles, CA, USA
8/18/2025 12:59pm
TeamGreen wrote:
But, but, but…The Red Carpet!The Fly-Over!He actually shook Putin’s hand! 🤣 

But, but, but…

The Red Carpet!

The Fly-Over!

He actually shook Putin’s hand! 🤣

IMG 1580.png?VersionId=S01SRZU59Xki1NOaCxRe9qRg9t2IMG 1579 0.png?VersionId=mcRX.XQmuBG gZNcwIYgXfrA3ftS8AxIMG 1578.png?VersionId=FLIbZyYIn8tOWyKaa5HGqi
 

burn1986 wrote:

And yet he invaded under every one of these except one. T

And you guys think he did that because Putin is afraid of Trump?

America is so cooked.

2
6
TeamGreen
Posts
37032
Joined
11/25/2008
Location
Thru-out, CA, USA
8/18/2025 1:02pm

The Negativity is contagious among the TDS sufferers. 

1
2
soggy
Posts
8754
Joined
12/3/2018
Location
USA
8/18/2025 1:06pm
TalinH112 wrote:

I agree with you. I guess in conclusion, we will all have to wait and see what happens. 

soggy wrote:
That’s all we can do. I just don’t get why trump changed his tune so fast on extreme consequences to Ukraine needs to forfeit its land...

That’s all we can do. I just don’t get why trump changed his tune so fast on extreme consequences to Ukraine needs to forfeit its land and people unless Putin has some power over trump

TalinH112 wrote:
Could be that Putin gave him more than he was expecting in the meeting and now feels he is closer to a deal than he was...

Could be that Putin gave him more than he was expecting in the meeting and now feels he is closer to a deal than he was when he entered the meeting, he will keep the extreme consequences in his back pocket in case he needs them but will let things play out organically first. Again that is purely speculation on my part. 🤷🏻

Anything is possible but he also went in saying he was going to get land back for Ukraine and came out saying Ukraine had to give up land to reach a deal so 🤷🏼

2
2
TeamGreen
Posts
37032
Joined
11/25/2008
Location
Thru-out, CA, USA
8/18/2025 1:07pm
soggy wrote:
That’s all we can do. I just don’t get why trump changed his tune so fast on extreme consequences to Ukraine needs to forfeit its land...

That’s all we can do. I just don’t get why trump changed his tune so fast on extreme consequences to Ukraine needs to forfeit its land and people unless Putin has some power over trump

TalinH112 wrote:
Could be that Putin gave him more than he was expecting in the meeting and now feels he is closer to a deal than he was...

Could be that Putin gave him more than he was expecting in the meeting and now feels he is closer to a deal than he was when he entered the meeting, he will keep the extreme consequences in his back pocket in case he needs them but will let things play out organically first. Again that is purely speculation on my part. 🤷🏻

soggy wrote:
Anything is possible but he also went in saying he was going to get land back for Ukraine and came out saying Ukraine had to give...

Anything is possible but he also went in saying he was going to get land back for Ukraine and came out saying Ukraine had to give up land to reach a deal so 🤷🏼

Where did he say that? 

1
2
soggy
Posts
8754
Joined
12/3/2018
Location
USA
8/18/2025 1:09pm
Zycki11 wrote:
Ah the old dance around again... Right so now, its about Putin being more "powerful"... Lets check, Russia can't even defeat Ukraine, and our bombers wipe...

Ah the old dance around again... Right so now, its about Putin being more "powerful"... Lets check, Russia can't even defeat Ukraine, and our bombers wipe out an entire countries nuclear capabilities in one run... When you say power, are you referencing within their own respective countries? 

Trump has long been obsessed with powers of dictators around the world. I believe that’s what wombat is getting at. 

1
3
soggy
Posts
8754
Joined
12/3/2018
Location
USA
8/18/2025 1:11pm
TalinH112 wrote:
Could be that Putin gave him more than he was expecting in the meeting and now feels he is closer to a deal than he was...

Could be that Putin gave him more than he was expecting in the meeting and now feels he is closer to a deal than he was when he entered the meeting, he will keep the extreme consequences in his back pocket in case he needs them but will let things play out organically first. Again that is purely speculation on my part. 🤷🏻

soggy wrote:
Anything is possible but he also went in saying he was going to get land back for Ukraine and came out saying Ukraine had to give...

Anything is possible but he also went in saying he was going to get land back for Ukraine and came out saying Ukraine had to give up land to reach a deal so 🤷🏼

TeamGreen wrote:

Where did he say that? 

To be fair I took it from what you said when you started this thread

IMG 2754.png?VersionId=GI

 

2
TeamGreen
Posts
37032
Joined
11/25/2008
Location
Thru-out, CA, USA
8/18/2025 1:16pm
soggy wrote:
Anything is possible but he also went in saying he was going to get land back for Ukraine and came out saying Ukraine had to give...

Anything is possible but he also went in saying he was going to get land back for Ukraine and came out saying Ukraine had to give up land to reach a deal so 🤷🏼

TeamGreen wrote:

Where did he say that? 

soggy wrote:
To be fair I took it from what you said when you started this thread 

To be fair I took it from what you said when you started this thread

IMG 2754.png?VersionId=GI

 

Yup

The policy people were saying that…but, Trump’s words were about Land Swaps…whatever the hell that looks like?

Maybe Ukraine keeps the land it holds in Russia as of late…?

soggy
Posts
8754
Joined
12/3/2018
Location
USA
8/18/2025 1:20pm
TeamGreen wrote:

Where did he say that? 

soggy wrote:
To be fair I took it from what you said when you started this thread 

To be fair I took it from what you said when you started this thread

IMG 2754.png?VersionId=GI

 

TeamGreen wrote:
YupThe policy people were saying that…but, Trump’s words were about Land Swaps…whatever the hell that looks like?Maybe Ukraine keeps the land it holds in Russia as...

Yup

The policy people were saying that…but, Trump’s words were about Land Swaps…whatever the hell that looks like?

Maybe Ukraine keeps the land it holds in Russia as of late…?

Maybe, the phrasing of getting ‘land back’ makes it sound like land Russia has taken. I don’t care to get into semantics but why say trump was talking about that, when it was his policy people?  Shouldn’t they be aligned?

I dunno this whole process doesn’t pass the smell test for me. 

1
TeamGreen
Posts
37032
Joined
11/25/2008
Location
Thru-out, CA, USA
8/18/2025 1:23pm

Fucking Putin…

Bombing huge apartment buildings in Kharkiv…

Someone make that dude a polonium cocktail…please! 

3
1
soggy
Posts
8754
Joined
12/3/2018
Location
USA
8/18/2025 1:24pm
TeamGreen wrote:

Fucking Putin…

Bombing huge apartment buildings in Kharkiv…

Someone make that dude a polonium cocktail…please! 

Surely he had a drink in Alaska that would have been the time !

1
2
LoudLove
Posts
2869
Joined
7/16/2010
Location
USA
8/18/2025 1:31pm

Will we look back in 6 weeks and find that nothing’s changed?

1
soggy
Posts
8754
Joined
12/3/2018
Location
USA
8/18/2025 1:40pm
LoudLove wrote:

Will we look back in 6 weeks and find that nothing’s changed?

Sounds like Zelenskyy has agreed to talk to Putin so there could be some momentum to a resolution, but who knows how that will go. 

Zycki11
Posts
7801
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Edwardsville, IL, USA
8/18/2025 1:41pm
Zycki11 wrote:
Ah the old dance around again... Right so now, its about Putin being more "powerful"... Lets check, Russia can't even defeat Ukraine, and our bombers wipe...

Ah the old dance around again... Right so now, its about Putin being more "powerful"... Lets check, Russia can't even defeat Ukraine, and our bombers wipe out an entire countries nuclear capabilities in one run... When you say power, are you referencing within their own respective countries? 

It's always been about Trump wishing he had Putin's power.

Right, so you and Soggy both are saying the same thing. Trump is all about Putins "power"... yet again... I am trying to wrap my head around this.  Where could you have gotten this idea? I haven't seen him speak of it, nor his cabinet... In fact the only ones were the ole Russia Dossier... So you are clinging to something that was proven to be a power move from your own party? Good god you guys are really confusing... what grounds is this all on?

3
zookrider62!
Posts
6825
Joined
12/22/2008
Location
Plano, TX, USA
8/18/2025 1:42pm
LoudLove wrote:

Will we look back in 6 weeks and find that nothing’s changed?

soggy wrote:

Sounds like Zelenskyy has agreed to talk to Putin so there could be some momentum to a resolution, but who knows how that will go. 

He will probably enjoy talking to someone less hostile then Trump/Vance


 

2
3
TalinH112
Posts
1427
Joined
1/30/2022
Location
Belgrade, MT, USA
8/18/2025 2:03pm
LoudLove wrote:

Will we look back in 6 weeks and find that nothing’s changed?

soggy wrote:

Sounds like Zelenskyy has agreed to talk to Putin so there could be some momentum to a resolution, but who knows how that will go. 

He will probably enjoy talking to someone less hostile then Trump/Vance


 

I had to laugh at this one. 🤣

3

Post a reply to: Trump meeting with Putin in Alaska on Friday to pursue an end to the War in Ukraine.

The Latest