no more Pala?

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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 11:05am
http://motocrossactionmag.com/Main/News/MOTOCROSS-ACTIONS-MIDWEEK-REPOR…


According to the North Country Times (San Diego): The organizer of the motocross race in Pala that created a traffic jam on Highway 76 earlier this month said attendance and traffic estimates released by authorities were overblown. California Highway Patrol officers said the Sept. 11 event at the Pala Raceway created a traffic mess that extended from the Pala Indian Reservation to the outer limits of Oceanside.
A CHP officer told the North County Times days after the event that about 25,000 people were expected at the 2010 Lucas Oil AMA Motocross Championship, but more than twice that number showed up, clogging the two-lane highway for hours.

Ryan Ouellette, president of MX Motopark Industries, the company that operates the Pala Raceway, said those initial estimates were too high. He said only about 14,000 people fit in the event venue and only about 8,400 people could have been on the road on their way to the event. The vehicles on the road may have included area residents, casino traffic and others travelers.

"The rumor was 80,000, but when you break it down mathematically, that is just impossible," Sgt. Scott Payson said.

Pala Chairman Robert Smith said the tribe has not decided whether to allow another event of that magnitude. He said the traffic not only affected residents in the surrounding community, but the tribe's casino patrons and other casinos further east on Highway 76, including Casino Pauma in Pauma Valley.

"If we were even to consider it again, it would have to be well-organized and limit the number of tickets, because it really impacted the backcountry and there is really only one way in and out," Smith said.

King Freeman, a Pala tribal member who owns the Pala Store on Highway 76, said he was upset by the traffic the race created and the negative publicity it brought to the tribe, even though it was not organized by Pala. "It affected a lot of people," King said. "It affected people that were going to Pauma and Rincon. It was all day and traffic was stopped. It was a mess."
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9/29/2010 9:53am
Sounds like that's what the publication is hoping for.
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9/29/2010 9:54am
At least we have an accurate attendance number: "Ryan Ouellette, president of MX Motopark Industries, the company that operates the Pala Raceway, said those initial estimates were too high. He said only about 14,000 people fit in the event venue and only about 8,400 people could have been on the road on their way to the event. "
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9/29/2010 9:55am
Grendel wrote:
Sounds like that's what the publication is hoping for.
How do you figure that's what they are hoping for ? just curious...

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9/29/2010 10:02am
Guess we'll wait and see. I've also heard anecdotal stories of two weddings that were to be held in the area that were cancelled.

Here's hoping that they figure out a better/faster/easier system of getting everyone in and out.

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9/29/2010 10:03am
It was just 1 day what is the big deal
People complain about everything its sad
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9/29/2010 10:04am
GuyB wrote:
Guess we'll wait and see. I've also heard anecdotal stories of two weddings that were to be held in the area that were cancelled. Here's hoping...
Guess we'll wait and see. I've also heard anecdotal stories of two weddings that were to be held in the area that were cancelled.

Here's hoping that they figure out a better/faster/easier system of getting everyone in and out.
sears point and san fran as the final party
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9/29/2010 10:08am
Grendel wrote:
Sounds like that's what the publication is hoping for.
How do you figure that's what they are hoping for ? just curious...

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Jody W....Glen Helen...
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9/29/2010 10:10am
Grendel wrote:
Sounds like that's what the publication is hoping for.
How do you figure that's what they are hoping for ? just curious...

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SteveS wrote:
Jody W....Glen Helen...
I get that part but all they are doing is reporting on a story that was printed in the NC Times, it's not like they wrote it ! And trust me I loathe Jody, he had me and my daughter removed from his tent at the USGP this year ha, but still it's just reporting a story that was published.

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9/29/2010 10:46am
Big jumps and fun track but not last race of the season material.
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9/29/2010 10:58am
According to spreading out rumors, after the AMA MX round, the local highway patrol has not authorized any other Pala event (that's why the upcoming Red Bull Metallicross and other local races have been already canceled?).
It seems like they demand the construction of extra two road lanes from the freeway to the track before giving the green flag again.
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9/29/2010 11:04am
Day in the Dirt ?
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9/29/2010 11:05am
Wow, never saw this coming.
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9/29/2010 11:12am
Was Competitive Edge ever considered? It has a lot of natural terrain more reminiscent of an outdoor track and is near a freeway and a major highway.
9/29/2010 11:21am
I dont get how this is different from any other national. At unadilla there is only a two lane road and it always has traffic.
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9/29/2010 11:28am Edited Date/Time 9/29/2010 11:29am
like i said in a previous post, this track is on Indian land... and any negative pub will shut this race down. if the national on one day affects the regulars who come to gamble, goodbye race and goodbye track. its all about money "in" the casino/casino's. and traffic backed up for miles doesn't help.



looks like we dont have to worry about a conflict in schedule between USGP and a NATIONAL in so-cal. and if you think that the "sponsor's" are going to go without a national in so-cal your wrong.. Time for the all the party's involved to suck it up and go back to glen helen.. Comp edge..... please....
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9/29/2010 11:33am
mxrider225 wrote:
I dont get how this is different from any other national. At unadilla there is only a two lane road and it always has traffic.
is unadilla within a mile of an indian casino? this is a big casino that make's couple hundred thousand dollars a day. if you take away saturday business for the day tribes get upset.. bottom line
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9/29/2010 12:03pm
Grendel wrote:
Sounds like that's what the publication is hoping for.
No shit Sherlock Smile
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9/29/2010 12:11pm
line-up wrote:
According to spreading out rumors, after the AMA MX round, the local highway patrol has not authorized any other Pala event (that's why the upcoming Red...
According to spreading out rumors, after the AMA MX round, the local highway patrol has not authorized any other Pala event (that's why the upcoming Red Bull Metallicross and other local races have been already canceled?).
It seems like they demand the construction of extra two road lanes from the freeway to the track before giving the green flag again.
What's a spreading-out rumor? Never heard of that one.
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9/29/2010 12:12pm Edited Date/Time 9/29/2010 12:12pm
I find it funny that Washougal has record for largest attended national (or so I've been told) and there's only 2 podunk fucking cattle roads into that joint. Nobody seems to bitch though. Especially the state and the police... they know the towns of Washougal and Camas would probably fall off the face of the earth without this event.
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9/29/2010 12:19pm
PC wrote:
I find it funny that Washougal has record for largest attended national (or so I've been told) and there's only 2 podunk fucking cattle roads into...
I find it funny that Washougal has record for largest attended national (or so I've been told) and there's only 2 podunk fucking cattle roads into that joint. Nobody seems to bitch though. Especially the state and the police... they know the towns of Washougal and Camas would probably fall off the face of the earth without this event.
Washougal is smart, they give free tickets to all the homes/neighbors to the event. But you are missing the point pretty much, yeah you drive through Camas etc but it's not a city like Temecula, it was complete gridlock through a major city, not a small little bf town in the middle of no-where that had the police in an uproar. Highway 79 was stopped and the traffic on the 15 was stopped either direction.

They should have had the cops directing traffic, not giving tickets to patrons who were running lights or stopsigns to get to the race. It can be figured out, permits need to be pulled etc.

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9/29/2010 12:29pm
Hotel was sold out. I have never seen that many people at that gas station either. I would think that they (casino) would want to help figure out the traffic problem with the track. That many people going buy your business is a GOOD think.
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9/29/2010 12:31pm
PC wrote:
I find it funny that Washougal has record for largest attended national (or so I've been told) and there's only 2 podunk fucking cattle roads into...
I find it funny that Washougal has record for largest attended national (or so I've been told) and there's only 2 podunk fucking cattle roads into that joint. Nobody seems to bitch though. Especially the state and the police... they know the towns of Washougal and Camas would probably fall off the face of the earth without this event.
Washougal is smart, they give free tickets to all the homes/neighbors to the event. But you are missing the point pretty much, yeah you drive through...
Washougal is smart, they give free tickets to all the homes/neighbors to the event. But you are missing the point pretty much, yeah you drive through Camas etc but it's not a city like Temecula, it was complete gridlock through a major city, not a small little bf town in the middle of no-where that had the police in an uproar. Highway 79 was stopped and the traffic on the 15 was stopped either direction.

They should have had the cops directing traffic, not giving tickets to patrons who were running lights or stopsigns to get to the race. It can be figured out, permits need to be pulled etc.

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this is true. If you are going to a hold a big event, you better have traffic figured out.

Gotta hand it to Thunder Valley. The traffic issues were almost non-existent all day Sunday.
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9/29/2010 12:44pm
Dealing with the State of California and Indians with casinos....................welcome to our world.
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9/29/2010 12:47pm
Ok DC you chimed in on a national in the southeast, why not chime in on this topic. denver maybe and then so-cal?
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9/29/2010 12:57pm
GuyB wrote:
Guess we'll wait and see. I've also heard anecdotal stories of two weddings that were to be held in the area that were cancelled. Here's hoping...
Guess we'll wait and see. I've also heard anecdotal stories of two weddings that were to be held in the area that were cancelled.

Here's hoping that they figure out a better/faster/easier system of getting everyone in and out.
That's a plus for the race then, save a few dudes from marrying their future ex wives.
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9/29/2010 1:01pm
sdrider16 wrote:
Hotel was sold out. I have never seen that many people at that gas station either. I would think that they (casino) would want to help...
Hotel was sold out. I have never seen that many people at that gas station either. I would think that they (casino) would want to help figure out the traffic problem with the track. That many people going buy your business is a GOOD think.
why would the casino care about traffic to a race ?

sounds like the casino did find a solution to the problem...

no race... no traffic... very simple.
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9/29/2010 1:12pm
I LIKE PALA....I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THE BITCHING IS ABOUT




9/29/2010 1:22pm
I don't know how they did it at Thunder Valley but the pala folks need to consult them. There was absolutely no traffic at Thunder Valley Sat or Sun. I got there at 7 am both days so getting in was no issue for me (as to be expected when you get there early) but both days I stayed and watched the whole last moto and both days I experienced 0 traffic leaving. I was amazed as I just drove away without any issue.
9/29/2010 1:27pm
$25 slots. I guess you can't win with scared money. Nice!
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I don't usually play that high.
I was getting ahead by that point and it was like "let's give it a try"
That double hearts?...was 2nd pull....had $50 into that machine


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