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People can celebrate whatever they wish, and have no problem with people celebrating Juneteenth.
What's missing in all this is some historical context.
Galveston during that time was one of the largest ports in the country. In those days, ports are where people got news, not newspapers, not TV, or internet.
There were approximately 2,000 slaves on the island then and news of emancipation would have certainly made it to them well before the visit from the Army, and that news would have spread quickly around the state from there.
So, June 19 1865 is the day they choose to celebrate it, but they would have most certainly known probably soon after December 6th 1863.
Just sayin'.
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Wouldn't the Union army presence be key in actually enforcing the emancipation?
Could be why they were there, but no mention of that in anything you hear.
All that's ever mentioned is that is the day they all found out, and I'm just pointing out that it would have been virtually impossible for that to be the case.
Also the Constitution had been around for a long time, and the Army isn't supposed to be used like that, right?
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What’s the significance of Dec 6, 1963?
Ha!
Meant 1863.
Wait, that's what I wrote. That's the emancipation proclamation date.
No, that was in September of 1862.
Looks like you were mixing years and events.
* Sept. 22 1862 the day Lincoln issued his preliminary Emancipation Proclamation Order.
* Jan. 1 1863: the day it took effect.
* Jan. 31 1865: the date the 13th Amendment passed Congress, officially abolishing the institution of slavery.
* Dec. 6 1865: the day the 13th Amendment was ratified.
* April 3 1865: the day Richmond, Va., fell.
* April 9 1865: the day Lee surrendered to Ulysses Grant at Appomattox, Va.
I should have said 1862, but still wrong. I was getting Abe stuff confused.
It was actually Jan 1 1863, right.
Oops, late to the trigger.
Dec. 6 1862 Abe ordered the execution of a bunch of Indians for war crimes during the Dakota war.
As long as you don’t get all silly and use November 22nd, 1863…you’ll be fine.
What happened then?
Nothing
But, a century later…just a few miles from you…it was a really, really bad day.
True.
Something did happen in 1863.
Abe declared the 4th Thursday of November be Thanksgiving. 🤣
Seems like that if a slave in Galveston told his master "I heard from a guy on the boat President Lincoln freed me" the response would be "not my President". Heard that more than once over the last few years for way less important purposes.
As far as following the Constitution, the traitors of the south are lucky they got off easy, Constitutionally.
OK, irrespective, Juneteenth is exclusively a Texas thing.
If they want a national holiday, why not make it the day Lincoln signed it into law?
Why is it exclusively a Texas thing?
Should July 4th only be a holiday in the 13 original states?
Well, it was the day the Army told Texas that there was emancipation for slaves... in Texas 2.5 years after they told everyone else.
Why does the whole country celebrate that?
Nobody else celebrates Texas' birthday. Why this?
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I'll try to answer this! Because a Republican president signed the emancipation proclamation and won the war. Then Republicans passed a law abolishing slavery, and Democrats formed the KKK. None of this truth is allowed and they had to come up with something else to confuse people.
I still say Toyotathon is more legit.
They ‘told’ every state at roughly the same time. They were able to enforce it at obviously different times.
Why does the date of June 19th bother you so much?
I'm not bothered by it in the slightest. Like I've said, they can celebrate whatever/whenever they wish.
My original post was just pointing out that they absolutely already knew in Galveston before 6-19.
Might I add…
Y’all will know when my Texan-brother is actually “bothered”. 🤣
Haha! True dat!
And look how long it took for them to be able to vote….
Why not call it an actual date like June Ninteenth instead of the made up bullshit that doesn’t make any sense?
You can have your political opinions in the current day of course. We all do. I’m sure you, like me, have an overall political belief that aligns with some from the current Democratic Party and some from the current Republican Party.
I’ll just say, however, when you say things like this, it just sounds silly. The parties are drastically different now. Back then, the Republicans were the more liberal and progressive party and the Democrats were the more conservative party. That has clearly changed. Just look at how the former Confederate States have voted throughout the years.
Like the Jim Crow era?
Yeah, those were compassionate democrats alright.
Jim Crow era Democrats were mostly awful, no question.
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