Caroli might be coming for the first two SX and one or more nationals.

Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 2:10pm
Like Everts, you seem set on finishing your career in Europe. Is there a chance we will ever see you in America for a season, or maybe just for a few rounds?
For 2011 I still have the contract with KTM to ride the GP season in Europe. I'm always in for an adventure, and yes, as long as it's going to be a good combination of schedules (and if its OK for KTM), I'd like to come over for one or maybe more outdoors in America next season. I'm also still talking about it with KTM, but the plan is to ride the first two SX in USA as well. I like supercross, but I'll just see it as a nice experience.



http://www.racerxonline.com/article/monday-conversation-tony-cairoli.as…




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9/20/2010 8:56am Edited Date/Time 9/20/2010 9:03am
He also says he will be free to race where ever in 2012 when asked about racing here fulltime , How cool would that be ?
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He also said he was coming to race here last year and he didn't sans the USGP
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I gues wanting to and being able to are not allways compatible.
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He also says he will be free to race where ever in 2012 when asked about racing here fulltime , How cool would that be ?
No he said he was free in 2012.

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opps I will edit .
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Good interview. Tony is a class act.. and good to see him get some more media coverage in the US.

Would be good to see him race a few Nationals next year... maybe if Dungey is KTM he can race a couple GPs too.... Not sure how he will do in Supercross I think Musquin is helping him get ready for Bercy.

How many times does he need to say Dungey is one of the best in the world to stop the haters? lol

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He also said he was coming to race here last year and he didn't sans the USGP
Seems like he spent the off season dialing in that new 350.
Then he & KTM concentrated on going after that World Championship, and bagging it. Wink
Probably the right decision for him & KTM.

But who knows...maybe he will be in a situation to come over and do a couple SX's this season and possibly a National,if indeed KTM allows him to.

Also that interview was good.
But you can tell he was a bit reserved with his words...

I'm looking forward to following his results at the MXoN.
It should be interesting to see where he stacks up.
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500guy wrote:
He also said he was coming to race here last year and he didn't sans the USGP
FastEddy wrote:
Seems like he spent the off season dialing in that new 350. Then he & KTM concentrated on going after that World Championship, and bagging it...
Seems like he spent the off season dialing in that new 350.
Then he & KTM concentrated on going after that World Championship, and bagging it. Wink
Probably the right decision for him & KTM.

But who knows...maybe he will be in a situation to come over and do a couple SX's this season and possibly a National,if indeed KTM allows him to.

Also that interview was good.
But you can tell he was a bit reserved with his words...

I'm looking forward to following his results at the MXoN.
It should be interesting to see where he stacks up.
I disagree, it was a poor interview IMO. The only real question that matters right now is this; Did you say your MX2 riders were faster than Dungey? And if so why would you diss another champion? The other stuff was fluff to cover up the real question, he was let off way to easy. Shit talkers will always lose in the long run and open themselves up to criticism and booing..

Bad job DC, sorry you blew itSad
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500guy wrote:
He also said he was coming to race here last year and he didn't sans the USGP
FastEddy wrote:
Seems like he spent the off season dialing in that new 350. Then he & KTM concentrated on going after that World Championship, and bagging it...
Seems like he spent the off season dialing in that new 350.
Then he & KTM concentrated on going after that World Championship, and bagging it. Wink
Probably the right decision for him & KTM.

But who knows...maybe he will be in a situation to come over and do a couple SX's this season and possibly a National,if indeed KTM allows him to.

Also that interview was good.
But you can tell he was a bit reserved with his words...

I'm looking forward to following his results at the MXoN.
It should be interesting to see where he stacks up.
raddad wrote:
I disagree, it was a poor interview IMO. The only real question that matters right now is this; Did you say your MX2 riders were faster...
I disagree, it was a poor interview IMO. The only real question that matters right now is this; Did you say your MX2 riders were faster than Dungey? And if so why would you diss another champion? The other stuff was fluff to cover up the real question, he was let off way to easy. Shit talkers will always lose in the long run and open themselves up to criticism and booing..

Bad job DC, sorry you blew itSad
your cool man
good interview just seems to me all you care about is him shit talking and not the fact that hes one of the best in the world
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raddad wrote:
I disagree, it was a poor interview IMO. The only real question that matters right now is this; Did you say your MX2 riders were faster...
I disagree, it was a poor interview IMO. The only real question that matters right now is this; Did you say your MX2 riders were faster than Dungey? And if so why would you diss another champion? The other stuff was fluff to cover up the real question, he was let off way to easy. Shit talkers will always lose in the long run and open themselves up to criticism and booing..

Bad job DC, sorry you blew itSad
IMO....AC already gave that explanation last Friday.
Why keep hounding someone who was misquoted in the first place?

Here is the email he sent to Ping at RacerX,that was posted.


Hey David,
> >
> > It s Tony here, i get a few email's wich linked me to your page, sadly i
> > read your reply on racerxonline.
> > I think your talking is a little bit unfaire and also
> > a little bit arrogant, against Italian people.
> > About Ryan he Have all my respect for what he did the last two year, and i
> > think he is one of the fastest guys right now!
> > You where also a rider, and sometimes journalist missunderstood your
> > words. I sad that i was thinking that the riders in the mx2 class where
> > maybe faster than the guys in US lites class.
> > So now you know my words, i'm looking forward to the race next week!!!
> >
> > I hope to hear from you soon, and to see eachother in Denver!
> >
> > Ciaoo, The ravioli-eating dude,
> > Tony Cairoli Smile
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Seems like he spent the off season dialing in that new 350. Then he & KTM concentrated on going after that World Championship, and bagging it...
Seems like he spent the off season dialing in that new 350.
Then he & KTM concentrated on going after that World Championship, and bagging it. Wink
Probably the right decision for him & KTM.

But who knows...maybe he will be in a situation to come over and do a couple SX's this season and possibly a National,if indeed KTM allows him to.

Also that interview was good.
But you can tell he was a bit reserved with his words...

I'm looking forward to following his results at the MXoN.
It should be interesting to see where he stacks up.
raddad wrote:
I disagree, it was a poor interview IMO. The only real question that matters right now is this; Did you say your MX2 riders were faster...
I disagree, it was a poor interview IMO. The only real question that matters right now is this; Did you say your MX2 riders were faster than Dungey? And if so why would you diss another champion? The other stuff was fluff to cover up the real question, he was let off way to easy. Shit talkers will always lose in the long run and open themselves up to criticism and booing..

Bad job DC, sorry you blew itSad
max911 wrote:
your cool man good interview just seems to me all you care about is him shit talking and not the fact that hes one of the...
your cool man
good interview just seems to me all you care about is him shit talking and not the fact that hes one of the best in the world
I am looking at this from what i think will be the general fans perspective IMO.. Not necessarily my opinion. Personally i think that a great champion does does not shit talk period and i do not know if he did or did not but i do know that DC had the golden opportunity to ask him and he didn't! That's to bad and could have stopped booing and a bad general reputation he is building here.
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raddad wrote:
I disagree, it was a poor interview IMO. The only real question that matters right now is this; Did you say your MX2 riders were faster...
I disagree, it was a poor interview IMO. The only real question that matters right now is this; Did you say your MX2 riders were faster than Dungey? And if so why would you diss another champion? The other stuff was fluff to cover up the real question, he was let off way to easy. Shit talkers will always lose in the long run and open themselves up to criticism and booing..

Bad job DC, sorry you blew itSad
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IMO....AC already gave that explanation last Friday. Why keep hounding someone who was misquoted in the first place? Here is the email he sent to Ping...
IMO....AC already gave that explanation last Friday.
Why keep hounding someone who was misquoted in the first place?

Here is the email he sent to Ping at RacerX,that was posted.


Hey David,
> >
> > It s Tony here, i get a few email's wich linked me to your page, sadly i
> > read your reply on racerxonline.
> > I think your talking is a little bit unfaire and also
> > a little bit arrogant, against Italian people.
> > About Ryan he Have all my respect for what he did the last two year, and i
> > think he is one of the fastest guys right now!
> > You where also a rider, and sometimes journalist missunderstood your
> > words. I sad that i was thinking that the riders in the mx2 class where
> > maybe faster than the guys in US lites class.
> > So now you know my words, i'm looking forward to the race next week!!!
> >
> > I hope to hear from you soon, and to see eachother in Denver!
> >
> > Ciaoo, The ravioli-eating dude,
> > Tony Cairoli Smile
hi fasteddy, if that was indeed what Tony originally said then MX Geoff really lied and embellished in his interview! Oh well i still worry that it could be a boo festSad
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9/20/2010 1:52pm Edited Date/Time 9/20/2010 1:53pm
AC's first language is Italian. If you talk to somebody that has limited English skills they must translate what is said to them back to their native language and must do the same in their response.



IMO, this whole thing is just a "Lost in translation" issue. What he meant to say and what he did say just came out wrong.



Let's see how we would all do if asked the same question in Italian.
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I am looking at this from what i think will be the general fans perspective IMO.. Not necessarily my opinion. Personally i think that a great...
I am looking at this from what i think will be the general fans perspective IMO.. Not necessarily my opinion. Personally i think that a great champion does does not shit talk period and i do not know if he did or did not but i do know that DC had the golden opportunity to ask him and he didn't! That's to bad and could have stopped booing and a bad general reputation he is building here.
Actually, you're not looking at it from a general fan's perspective, but from a Dungey fanboy perspective.
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500guy wrote:
He also said he was coming to race here last year and he didn't sans the USGP
FastEddy wrote:
Seems like he spent the off season dialing in that new 350. Then he & KTM concentrated on going after that World Championship, and bagging it...
Seems like he spent the off season dialing in that new 350.
Then he & KTM concentrated on going after that World Championship, and bagging it. Wink
Probably the right decision for him & KTM.

But who knows...maybe he will be in a situation to come over and do a couple SX's this season and possibly a National,if indeed KTM allows him to.

Also that interview was good.
But you can tell he was a bit reserved with his words...

I'm looking forward to following his results at the MXoN.
It should be interesting to see where he stacks up.
Where he stacks up?!

I think we know where he stacks up he is World Champ with more GP wins than DeCoster... it would be more interesting if Dungey was to race a GP series.. to see where he really stood in the world stage Wink
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A1 2011 can look like this:
- Ryan Dungey
- Kevin Windham
- Ryan Villopoto
- Davi Millsaps
- Justin Brayton
- Andrew Short
- Trey Canard
- Ivan Tedesco
- Chad Reed
- James Stewart
- Josh Grant
- Christophe Pourcel
- Jake Weimer
- Antonio Cairoli
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raddad wrote:
I am looking at this from what i think will be the general fans perspective IMO.. Not necessarily my opinion. Personally i think that a great...
I am looking at this from what i think will be the general fans perspective IMO.. Not necessarily my opinion. Personally i think that a great champion does does not shit talk period and i do not know if he did or did not but i do know that DC had the golden opportunity to ask him and he didn't! That's to bad and could have stopped booing and a bad general reputation he is building here.
Actually, you're not looking at it from a general fan's perspective, but from a Dungey fanboy perspective.
You think you are the all wise one here but you will never be so wise as to know what i am thinking. Because i know and saw Ryan grow up as a good MX rider does not mean i cannot see that the American fans could still boo Tony and for the reasons i stated. Get off your high horse, its not all that..
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off topic but the lites class will also be stacked!
TLD - Cole Seely - W
TLD - Christian Craig - W
KTM - Marvin Musquin - W
KTM - Ken Roczen - W
KAW - Tommy Searle - W
KAW - Broc Tickle - W
KAW - Josh Hansen - W
HON - Wil Hahn - W
HON - Eli Tomac - W
SUZ - Jason Anderson - W
MCR - Travis Baker - W

KAW - Dean Wilson - E
KAW - Tyla Rattray - E
KAW - Blake Baggett - E
HON - Justin Barcia - E
STR - Ryan Sipes - E
SUZ - Ian Trettel - E
SUZ - Malcolm Stewart - E

(i guessed on the coasts)
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Where he stacks up?! I think we know where he stacks up he is World Champ with more GP wins than DeCoster... it would be more...
Where he stacks up?!

I think we know where he stacks up he is World Champ with more GP wins than DeCoster... it would be more interesting if Dungey was to race a GP series.. to see where he really stood in the world stage Wink
Yes where he stacks up at the MXoN!

Will he win by 10seconds?
Will lose by 10 seconds?
Can he put in 2 solid motos at that elevation?
How will he do on that 350 at that elevation.
Will he have anything for Short (who is always super fast at Lakewood)?
Will any of the lites guys like Canard or Wilson be able to run his pace if they get decent starts?

Like I said before...
I'm looking forward to following his results at the MXoN.
It should be interesting to see where he stacks up.

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raddad wrote:
I am looking at this from what i think will be the general fans perspective IMO.. Not necessarily my opinion. Personally i think that a great...
I am looking at this from what i think will be the general fans perspective IMO.. Not necessarily my opinion. Personally i think that a great champion does does not shit talk period and i do not know if he did or did not but i do know that DC had the golden opportunity to ask him and he didn't! That's to bad and could have stopped booing and a bad general reputation he is building here.
Actually, you're not looking at it from a general fan's perspective, but from a Dungey fanboy perspective.
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You think you are the all wise one here but you will never be so wise as to know what i am thinking. Because i know...
You think you are the all wise one here but you will never be so wise as to know what i am thinking. Because i know and saw Ryan grow up as a good MX rider does not mean i cannot see that the American fans could still boo Tony and for the reasons i stated. Get off your high horse, its not all that..
Raddad, please stop while you're behind.

There's no rider who everyone likes. Even K-Dub was talking about doing the parade lap at one National this year, and there was a fan giving him the thumbs-down...even after Kevin stopped to say hi. And Kevin's probably one of the most universally liked riders out there.

Maybe there will be a few misguided fans out there who've had their share of Colorado Coolaid, and feel the need to vent. In general, at the MXoNs I've been to, fans are there to celebrate the racing and cheer for their own country's riders.

Normally it's a party atmosphere, not a gathering of bitter keyboard jockeys bent on "revenge".
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I think the chance of Dungey doing a whole GP series is about as likely as Tony doing a whole U.S. Series of either flavor.
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Actually, you're not looking at it from a general fan's perspective, but from a Dungey fanboy perspective.
raddad wrote:
You think you are the all wise one here but you will never be so wise as to know what i am thinking. Because i know...
You think you are the all wise one here but you will never be so wise as to know what i am thinking. Because i know and saw Ryan grow up as a good MX rider does not mean i cannot see that the American fans could still boo Tony and for the reasons i stated. Get off your high horse, its not all that..
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Raddad, please stop while you're behind. There's no rider who everyone likes. Even K-Dub was talking about doing the parade lap at one National this year...
Raddad, please stop while you're behind.

There's no rider who everyone likes. Even K-Dub was talking about doing the parade lap at one National this year, and there was a fan giving him the thumbs-down...even after Kevin stopped to say hi. And Kevin's probably one of the most universally liked riders out there.

Maybe there will be a few misguided fans out there who've had their share of Colorado Coolaid, and feel the need to vent. In general, at the MXoNs I've been to, fans are there to celebrate the racing and cheer for their own country's riders.

Normally it's a party atmosphere, not a gathering of bitter keyboard jockeys bent on "revenge".
GuyB, I am respectful of those that are the same..My opinion is NOT of a rider but of how i think people could respond to anyone that is a smack talker plain and simple. I am not going to the MXdN to jeer and boo a rider or country but i think if you look at how people responded to our riders in the MXdN in years past and how CP was boo'ed this summer for smack talk he committed in the past, i think i have a valid point and am simply commenting on how i think the opportunity was lost to set it all straight by Tony.. How can you put me down or tell me to back off for that?

This is not about me, its about an opinion that i think is warrented by events of the past and general human behaviour.
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I think the chance of Dungey doing a whole GP series is about as likely as Tony doing a whole U.S. Series of either flavor.
I think it is even more unlikely Dungey would do a GP series when I asked him he said no straight away.. but you can't rule either out 100%.. you never know in this sport! Unfortunately that is the only way you could accurately compare who is better, where someone doesn't have national home advantage.

So you can't really say Cairoli would beat Dungey in the AMA nationals nor can you say Dungey would beat Cairoli.. or Desalle etc in a World series...based on a one-off team event especially in the USA. They are the best in their series and that's it. You can't compare, apart from saying they are both great riders who compete in two great series.

All you can do it sit back enjoy the MXDN for what it is.. a great one off national team race.. Smile bring it on Smile

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