MX safety in the spotlight in Michigan

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Very sorry to hear about this accident. I didn't know you had to be 16 to ride a dirt bike on public land in Michigan. I don't know the details, but it says this rider hit a steel pole.


Few regulations restrict motocross in Michigan
Posted by Shannon Murphy | The Flint Journal April 02, 2008 18:29PM

GENESEE COUNTY, Michigan -- Few regulations in Michigan restrict motocross, a high-speed recreational sport that left a 7-year-old rider dead earlier this week after an accident on a Fenton Township track.

The decision on who should ride and at one age is left to parents, according to the Secretary of State's office. The state does not restrict them as long as they ride on private property.

"Injuries will happen and people assume the responsibility for those," said Kip Bigelow, chairman of the motocross division of the American Motorcyclists Association, District 14. "But a fatality is something that I'd never expect."

In motocross, riders steer motorcycles through winding, hilly dirt courses sometimes flying through the air. Broken bones and concussions are among the most common injuries.

Michigan dirt tracks have races for children as young as 4-years old.

Dr. Stephen Burton, a Flint Township orthopedic surgeon, said young children may not have the sense to be riding motocross bikes.

"If you know a sport has a risk this high and you still do it, that's your choice," Burton said. "But I don't know how a 4-year-old or a 7-year-old could know that."

Michigan does not have any age restrictions for dirt bikes on private land, although riders under 16 need supervision and a permit on public land and children under 10 cannot operate 4-wheel all-terrain vehicles.

Secretary of State Spokesman Ken Silfven said private property use is up to parental discretion and is not regulated by the state.

Only a handful of states have age limits for off-road motorcycles. Some require adult supervision up to a certain ages and other states require smaller engines for young children. Most states, however, do not have age restrictions for off-road motorcycles.

"Anytime you participate in an activity with higher speed, there is inherently a risk involved," said Hurley Medical center emergency room doctor Josh Newblatt said. "You're engaging in risky behavior."

Tyler died about 8 p.m. Monday at Genesys Regional Medical Center from injuries he suffered when he crashed his dirt bike into a steel pole at Fenton Indoor Motocross three hours earlier.

His father, David Waller, said his son was an experienced rider, and he isn't sure what caused the boy's sudden crash.

An autopsy was performed Tuesday, but results weren't available Wednesday afternoon.

Concerns also have been raised about a delayed ambulance response to the accident scene.

Riders acknowledge there is a risk involved in the sport, but said rules are put in place at private facilities and tracks to reduce injuries. Some requirements include wearing helmets and goggles.

Richard Steele of Lapeer said his 8-year-old son, Brett, has been riding for four years. The Steele's were at the indoor dirt track Monday when Tyler crashed.

Steele said his son has flipped over a few times, but that doesn't deter him from racing.

"It's just part of it," Richard Steele said.

Riders and parents of minors are required to sign waivers before participating at tracks.

Bigelow said the association relies on parents to teach their children the guidelines and how to operate safely.

Tommy Barron, general manager at Fenton Indoor Motocross, said he first got on a motorcycle when he was 3-years-old.

While he admits there are some risks to the sport, he doesn't think it's any less safe than hockey or football.

"There are people that walk down the street and get injured," he said. "It's something about how sheltered do you want to live?"

Barron said the bikes younger kids ride, which typically have smaller engines, only reach speeds of up to 30 miles per hour and don't go much faster than 15 miles per hour on a track. The lower speeds, he said, reduces the possibility of injuries.

"Broken bones, bruises and cuts are the kind of common stuff you take from driving around and falling off," he said. "It's much like hockey; a rough and tumble sport. But it's not lie we're out there beating ourselves up."

Dr. Pino Colone of St. Mary's Mercy Hospital in Livonia argued, however, that injuries to riders are more severe than other sports.

"I think people just need to use common sense and need to realize how dangerous motocross is," Colone said. "When you're talking about younger kids, they don't have the reflexes and the experience to react to a sudden change (on the track)."


• In Michigan, off-road motorcycles are not regulated on private property, meaning there is no age restriction on who can ride. On public property, riders must be 16.

• The American Motorcyclists Association, which is the sanctioning body for most racing events, has specific rules that riders must follow. Rules include riders wearing helmets and goggles. Riders and parents of minors must sign waivers prior to participation and parents of minors must stay at tracks with their children.
Injuries are common, but fatal accidents like the one Monday at Fenton Indoor Motocross that killed Tyler Waller of Oakland Township are rare.
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Have you seen any video of the Fenton Indoor Motocross? I am shocked that anyone would ride on a track that has steel beams throughout, and also has sections that butt right up against a fence. I would never let my child ride on a track like that...

I am very sorry for their loss, but it did not have to be....
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4/3/2008 10:04am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:31pm
It looks pretty sketchy.



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Sketchy x2!
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Looks pretty sketchy x3!

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Motocross Safety has come back to the top of the pile in Alabama after the death a couple weeks ago along with a SCI to go with it the same day.

Here are some things that have come out of it.

Previously, only a couple tracks had regular organized practice. Now, almost all of them are going to be.

Flaggers have become a possibility at practice sessions.

Flagger training and new rider training courses are going to be offered.

The Motocross Safety Council recommendations are being looked at more seriously.

Folks, if you have concerns about ANY safety related topic at your local race/practice tracks, it's up to YOU to see that they are addressed. We (the MSC) have put together tons of information on our website for riders, promoters, flaggers, parents, etc. Please go to this site, download all the documents you can or will and distribute them amongst your riding community.

The only people that can/will keep the local and state governments out of regulating our sport is going to be US.

Take a look here. www.mxsafety.org If you find something we missed or did wrong, let us know at mxsafety@yahoo.com .
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Damn that sucks. Godspeed little brother.

That track is a disgrace! Jumps beside the steel pillars?? WTF? Padding isn't going to do shit if you hit a steel pillar 6 feet above the padding.
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I could not believe what I saw in the video... Safety first, and it starts with the track itself. If the track is not safe you simply don't ride it... How did that track ever get approval to open? That would never fly here in Florida, never......

What are they thinking...?
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Ive rode on track 3 times as sketchy as that. Thats not that bad people.
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Doesn't make it any safer.... You just got lucky....
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First let me say this is a terrible thing to hear about, I can't imagine what the parents are going through or the people who work at and own the facility are feeling. My son rides at this track often along with many of his friends and it has been a good place for them to practice at. They have a top medical staff and personel that look out for the riders safety. The video may not be showing you the whole picture, it is a little misleading on the size and riding space that is there. The steel poles that are visible in this video are not the same poles that Tyler hit. He was completely off the track when he hit a pole, unfortunately accidents do happen. This was a horrlible accident, motocrossers are a big family that stick together, and I don't feel you should pass judgement on the track based on 1 video. Again my heart goes out to all families affected, and I wish things like this would never happen in any sport.
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I remember riding at a track north of Houston one Thanskgiving day, and the first lap I noticed there was a fast, uphill left hand sweeper that went kind of off camber at the exit, and if you went wide you went into another lane of the track going the opposite direction, just at the landing from a jump. Every lap, I thought, "Somebody's going to get killed here." I rode a few laps, loaded up and never went back. Sure enough, that exact thing happened a couple of months later and they shut the track down.

Sometimes I'm just amazed at how much hope and how little planning goes into some of these tracks. It's a dangerous sport at the best of times, but some of this stuff is just not smart.
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Its time our sport went over the top with the safety of our children. MX and dirt are great family sports but only if we make it safe as possible.
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Building a track inside a building with intermediate columns is stupid. If you are going to run inside, you've got to have a clear span structure.
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Sandy wrote:
First let me say this is a terrible thing to hear about, I can't imagine what the parents are going through or the people who work...
First let me say this is a terrible thing to hear about, I can't imagine what the parents are going through or the people who work at and own the facility are feeling. My son rides at this track often along with many of his friends and it has been a good place for them to practice at. They have a top medical staff and personel that look out for the riders safety. The video may not be showing you the whole picture, it is a little misleading on the size and riding space that is there. The steel poles that are visible in this video are not the same poles that Tyler hit. He was completely off the track when he hit a pole, unfortunately accidents do happen. This was a horrlible accident, motocrossers are a big family that stick together, and I don't feel you should pass judgement on the track based on 1 video. Again my heart goes out to all families affected, and I wish things like this would never happen in any sport.
I know you are just trying to defend your local track, but I'm sorry, video or no video, having large steel pillars immediately beside any track is just plain stupid. Yes it is a dangerous sport and yes freak accidents do happen, but the worst thing we can do is turn a blind eye to added danger. Just because no one has gotten seriously hurt or killed on those columns doesn't mean it can't happen and all the medical staff in the world is not going to prevent it.

I just think everyone has been lucky......until now, and until someone t-bones a steel column.
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I just want to say that my thoughts and prayers go out to this young boy's family and friends. I also want to let people, who don't regularly race in Michigan, know that many of our indoor tracks are confined to relatively small spaces. Unfortunately, Michigan's economy has been experiencing a downward spiral of sorts and families are hurting, including families who enjoy motocross. As many of you might know, Michigan has a rich history in motocross and has produced some awesome riders, even though we can't ride half of the year because of snow. Which is probably why passionate motocross enthusiasts, despite the high costs and little to no profits, try their best to provide a place to ride for people who love dirt bikes. I don't personally know the owner of the Fenton indoor track, but I know that another indoor track owner near by does the best he can to keep his place ride/race ready and warm in the winter months. All of us here in michigan would love to see someone build a world-class indoor facility like the Amsoil Sandbox arena in Wisconsin, but apparently there just isn't anyone out there with the money or motivation to do so. Therefore, like anyone else out there who is passionate about racing, we ride wherever we can even though it might be a cramped little warehouse amidst steel support beams or chain-link fence. Another thing to consider is that tragedies like this, although rare, have happened in Michigan indoor tracks before. Whether it's attributed to inexperience or simply the nature of navigating a tight, technical track, riders will occasionally veer off the track and hit a wall, beam, or fence.

Safety is a huge issue in motocross whether it be gear, equipment, bike, track, or staff. Unfortunately, because an indoor track is confined by the building and its walls, increasing the likeliness of safety can be an even more complicated challenge. But before we start pointing fingers at the owner or anyone else, we need to get a clearer picture of exactly what happened and more importantly, what can be done to prevent it in the future.
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4/3/2008 11:14pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:32pm
If the choice is between hitting an unnecessary dangerous object or not riding, what do you think the best option would be, especially when we are talking about kids? You are trying to make it appear less dangerous by saying you have no choice because that's the only type of facility you have available and to me, that is preposterous. What you are saying is that since the only place you have to ride is a dangerous one, then I guess we have no choice?? Don't try to tell me about having no place to ride in the winter. I've lived about 400 miles north of you for my entire 46 years and have NEVER had an indoor facility to ride in. We always survive to ride in the spring. No moto for 4 months never killed a single person, but hitting a pole in a tiny little deathtrap, well, we can see whats happening there.


If you need to drive a few hours to go to a safe place to ride, then drive a few hours. Saving a little driving time to keep yourself or a kid out of the hospital or worse, is a small price to pay don't you think??


I have a simple solution: keep yourselves and especially your CHILDREN out of dangerous situations as much as possible. Moto is dangerous enough without upping the ante by throwing an immovable obstacle course in the middle of a so called race track.


(or you can take up Ice Racing for your moto fix, like I have for 30 years)
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I am glad to see measured responses on here. Riding at any track is a personal decision.
I don't think anybody is casting blame here on the track owner (I am sure they are tied in knots about this), but when something like this happens, I believe you have to analyze the reasons why.
I've seen a lot of sketchy situation out there. I'd like to see some overall change in the track industry (not referring to this particular track because I have never been there).

Doesn't the Brett Downey foundation have new safety standards? If tracks could get some kind of reward or support for meeting those standards, maybe they would have incentive. That way when you get to the track and see the sticker, you know the standards are being met.
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TerryK wrote:
If the choice is between hitting an unnecessary dangerous object or not riding, what do you think the best option would be, especially when we are...
If the choice is between hitting an unnecessary dangerous object or not riding, what do you think the best option would be, especially when we are talking about kids? You are trying to make it appear less dangerous by saying you have no choice because that's the only type of facility you have available and to me, that is preposterous. What you are saying is that since the only place you have to ride is a dangerous one, then I guess we have no choice?? Don't try to tell me about having no place to ride in the winter. I've lived about 400 miles north of you for my entire 46 years and have NEVER had an indoor facility to ride in. We always survive to ride in the spring. No moto for 4 months never killed a single person, but hitting a pole in a tiny little deathtrap, well, we can see whats happening there.


If you need to drive a few hours to go to a safe place to ride, then drive a few hours. Saving a little driving time to keep yourself or a kid out of the hospital or worse, is a small price to pay don't you think??


I have a simple solution: keep yourselves and especially your CHILDREN out of dangerous situations as much as possible. Moto is dangerous enough without upping the ante by throwing an immovable obstacle course in the middle of a so called race track.


(or you can take up Ice Racing for your moto fix, like I have for 30 years)
"You are trying to make it appear less dangerous by saying you have no choice because that's the only type of facility you have available and to me, that is preposterous."

How did I say that racing in a small indoor track is any less dangerous?? If anything is preposterous, it's claiming I said something that I clearly didn't. What I said is that small warehouses are all that people can afford around here and therefore that is what is available for us to ride. Again, there is a demand to ride in the winter, and the facilities that are available are sometimes small warehouses. Moreover, it's especially convenient and a lot cheaper to drive 30 minutes or an hour and ride a few hours a day for $20 after dad gets off work, rather than spending thousands to go south for a week (getting time off work and not getting paid).

I also said, "But before we start pointing fingers at the owner or anyone else, we need to get a CLEARER PICTURE of exactly what happened and more importantly, what can be done to prevent it in the future."

I'm not taking a side either way, the point I'm trying to get across is instead of taking a video and a newspaper article and fabricating some story of what happened on your own, seek out a REAL understanding of what happened and then we can all find a solution to the problem and make it safer for future generations of motocross. For you to say keep the kids from racing indoor motocross altogether during the winter is "preposterous".

Another thing, don't tell me nobody has ever been killed in ice racing. In a setting where bikes sometimes exceed 100 mph and tires are studded with sharp screws (which is commonly raced indoors, with walls only feet away), you consider that a safe alternative? This may be a great winter time moto fix for you, but some people might enjoy the alternative of actual MOTOCROSS (dirt, jumps, berms, etc.) rather than nascaring around an ice oval.
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RIP little dude!

MX is a dangerous sport and of course at times, the element make it worse. Motorsport racing is dangerous. We need to make sure the elements are in place to make it as safe as possible, whenever possible.

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The bottom line is, and I am entitled to my opinion and have a right to say it...

I would never let my child ride on a track like that, no matter what the circumstances are, it is not worth it...

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