Time to Say Deegan Is Underwhelming Us In 2025?

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Well, Deegs "underwhelmed" his way to another championship. This thread aged poorly. 

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MOTO13 wrote:

Well, Deegs "underwhelmed" his way to another championship. This thread aged poorly. 

Winning the championship is irrelevant. This was expected. However, many championship winners are not generational, which is where the "underwhelming" label applies.  

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MOTO13 wrote:

Well, Deegs "underwhelmed" his way to another championship. This thread aged poorly. 

jnickell wrote:

Winning the championship is irrelevant. This was expected. However, many championship winners are not generational, which is where the "underwhelming" label applies.  

If he would have lost the title you would not be calling it irrelevant 

(Though I subscribe to the thought that regional titles don’t mean much if anything. It is why we don’t count them in career totals)

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5/6/2025 9:56am
MOTO13 wrote:

Well, Deegs "underwhelmed" his way to another championship. This thread aged poorly. 

jnickell wrote:

Winning the championship is irrelevant. This was expected. However, many championship winners are not generational, which is where the "underwhelming" label applies.  

Irrelevant? Lol...wtf ever dude. When it's expected, many times it's a lot harder to accomplish. There is ZERO underwhelming with this kid IMHO. 

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MOTO13 wrote:

Well, Deegs "underwhelmed" his way to another championship. This thread aged poorly. 

jnickell wrote:

Winning the championship is irrelevant. This was expected. However, many championship winners are not generational, which is where the "underwhelming" label applies.  

MOTO13 wrote:

Irrelevant? Lol...wtf ever dude. When it's expected, many times it's a lot harder to accomplish. There is ZERO underwhelming with this kid IMHO. 

Let me restate that. A single regional title is irrelevant in the context of being regarded as "generational."  Winning that title is awesome, but not relevant when talking about him being generational. 

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jnickell wrote:
Let me restate that. A single regional title is irrelevant in the context of being regarded as "generational."  Winning that title is awesome, but not relevant...

Let me restate that. A single regional title is irrelevant in the context of being regarded as "generational."  Winning that title is awesome, but not relevant when talking about him being generational. 

So only 450 Titles and 250 Outdoor titles are part of the "generational" conversation?

 

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jnickell wrote:
Let me restate that. A single regional title is irrelevant in the context of being regarded as "generational."  Winning that title is awesome, but not relevant...

Let me restate that. A single regional title is irrelevant in the context of being regarded as "generational."  Winning that title is awesome, but not relevant when talking about him being generational. 

LungButter wrote:

So only 450 Titles and 250 Outdoor titles are part of the "generational" conversation?

 

Did you consider Justin Barcia a generational Talent when he was on a 250? 

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MOTO13 wrote:

Well, Deegs "underwhelmed" his way to another championship. This thread aged poorly. 

jnickell wrote:

Winning the championship is irrelevant. This was expected. However, many championship winners are not generational, which is where the "underwhelming" label applies.  

Bingo 

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Did you consider Justin Barcia a generational Talent when he was on a 250? 

No

 

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Did you consider Justin Barcia a generational Talent when he was on a 250? 

I don't ever recall saying I thought anyone was a generational talent.

I just asked a question to get clarity.

 

5/7/2025 8:47am

I have a question for everyone. Do yall believe Davies will have a better Supercross Career than Deegan? I feel like Davies is catching on really quick and is one of the best Ive seen year one of supercross. 

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I have a question for everyone. Do yall believe Davies will have a better Supercross Career than Deegan? I feel like Davies is catching on really...

I have a question for everyone. Do yall believe Davies will have a better Supercross Career than Deegan? I feel like Davies is catching on really quick and is one of the best Ive seen year one of supercross. 

He's certainly on the right track to do so.  Only time will tell.

In Denver... IMO -  He seemed to slow a bit in lapped traffic.  If it was a clean track with no lappers - I don't think Haiden would've caught and passed him so easily.  Their times were very close until they hit lappers. Haiden negotiated them better. 

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5/7/2025 9:13am Edited Date/Time 5/11/2025 7:04pm
I have a question for everyone. Do yall believe Davies will have a better Supercross Career than Deegan? I feel like Davies is catching on really...

I have a question for everyone. Do yall believe Davies will have a better Supercross Career than Deegan? I feel like Davies is catching on really quick and is one of the best Ive seen year one of supercross. 

No one can predict the future, but he has a better rookie season. 

Cianciarulo started his pro career on fire, but injuries took a toll, and we never truly saw his full potential. 

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I have a question for everyone. Do yall believe Davies will have a better Supercross Career than Deegan? I feel like Davies is catching on really...

I have a question for everyone. Do yall believe Davies will have a better Supercross Career than Deegan? I feel like Davies is catching on really quick and is one of the best Ive seen year one of supercross. 

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No one can predict the future, but he has a better rookie season. Cianciarulo started his pro career on fire, but injuries took a toll, and we...

No one can predict the future, but he has a better rookie season. 

Cianciarulo started his pro career on fire, but injuries took a toll, and we never truly saw his full potential. 

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5/7/2025 10:38am Edited Date/Time 5/7/2025 10:38am
I have a question for everyone. Do yall believe Davies will have a better Supercross Career than Deegan? I feel like Davies is catching on really...

I have a question for everyone. Do yall believe Davies will have a better Supercross Career than Deegan? I feel like Davies is catching on really quick and is one of the best Ive seen year one of supercross. 

Davies will do great things (IF he can minimize or eliminate injuries). Totally reminds me of Jett when I see him ride. 

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5/10/2025 6:43pm Edited Date/Time 5/10/2025 6:43pm

7 wins in three years, same as Jett I believe. 

 

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5/11/2025 8:38am
MOTO13 wrote:

Well, Deegs "underwhelmed" his way to another championship. This thread aged poorly. 

jnickell wrote:

Winning the championship is irrelevant. This was expected. However, many championship winners are not generational, which is where the "underwhelming" label applies.  

well he blew out the east/west combo by like 10 secs, and his 9 podiums this season is a record tie with Jett for most ever in the 250w division.

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I was excepting class domination and we didn’t see it. He’s the best in 250 SX but not generational. He’s generational in 250 MX. 

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MOTO13 wrote:

Well, Deegs "underwhelmed" his way to another championship. This thread aged poorly. 

jnickell wrote:

Winning the championship is irrelevant. This was expected. However, many championship winners are not generational, which is where the "underwhelming" label applies.  

ZinAZ wrote:
well he blew out the east/west combo by like 10 secs, and his 9 podiums this season is a record tie with Jett for most ever...

well he blew out the east/west combo by like 10 secs, and his 9 podiums this season is a record tie with Jett for most ever in the 250w division.

More than MC in 1992? 

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jnickell wrote:

Winning the championship is irrelevant. This was expected. However, many championship winners are not generational, which is where the "underwhelming" label applies.  

ZinAZ wrote:
well he blew out the east/west combo by like 10 secs, and his 9 podiums this season is a record tie with Jett for most ever...

well he blew out the east/west combo by like 10 secs, and his 9 podiums this season is a record tie with Jett for most ever in the 250w division.

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More than MC in 1992? 

"In 1992, Jeremy McGrath won 7 races out of the 8 he participated in. "    Yes

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Deegs 3rd year vs RV. Seems close to me?

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5/11/2025 11:15am Edited Date/Time 5/11/2025 11:33am
MOTO13 wrote:

Well, Deegs "underwhelmed" his way to another championship. This thread aged poorly. 

jnickell wrote:

Winning the championship is irrelevant. This was expected. However, many championship winners are not generational, which is where the "underwhelming" label applies.  

ZinAZ wrote:
well he blew out the east/west combo by like 10 secs, and his 9 podiums this season is a record tie with Jett for most ever...

well he blew out the east/west combo by like 10 secs, and his 9 podiums this season is a record tie with Jett for most ever in the 250w division.

You can’t reason with them. They will always downplay Deegan. Imagine saying that the title is irrelevant. 

Haiden could have won all the races and they’d just say it was because the class was weak. 

Same people will turn around and say that Coke, who is in the same class, with only 2 wins, is generational. 

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5/11/2025 2:18pm

This kid is the real deal. Don’t sit on the couch and analyze. Go to the races and get up close because he is going to DOMINATE outdoors. 

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5/11/2025 2:55pm Edited Date/Time 5/11/2025 3:02pm
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This kid is the real deal. Don’t sit on the couch and analyze. Go to the races and get up close because he is going to...

This kid is the real deal. Don’t sit on the couch and analyze. Go to the races and get up close because he is going to DOMINATE outdoors. 

I was just telling some of my home boiiss I do ufc & boxing podcast with after all our preview & reviews shows we did last week they was asking me off camera wassup with this haiden kid cause he was going viral til tok for the whole Davies incident & the post race interview & I was telling them put all the bullshit antics & character aside , yal gotta come out to budds creek national with me to watch him race cause this brotha can ride his ass off 👌🏾 & tv don’t do justice how good & fast he really is 

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5/11/2025 3:01pm
oldnescVet wrote:
This kid is the real deal. Don’t sit on the couch and analyze. Go to the races and get up close because he is going to...

This kid is the real deal. Don’t sit on the couch and analyze. Go to the races and get up close because he is going to DOMINATE outdoors. 

stewie94 wrote:
I was just telling some of my home boiiss I do ufc & boxing podcast with after all our preview & reviews shows we did last...

I was just telling some of my home boiiss I do ufc & boxing podcast with after all our preview & reviews shows we did last week they was asking me off camera wassup with this haiden kid cause he was going viral til tok for the whole Davies incident & the post race interview & I was telling them put all the bullshit antics & character aside , yal gotta come out to budds creek national with me to watch him race cause this brotha can ride his ass off 👌🏾 & tv don’t do justice how good & fast he really is 

There’s nothing like seeing the top guys throw down fast laps live, especially haiden and jett. With Jett its like he’s so effortless that you wouldn’t think he was setting the fastest lap, but he was. Haiden is the complete opposite, same with Eli.

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Paul333 wrote:
For all the bragging, fake bravado, bullying, social media speculation, industry bantering / ass kissing is it time to say Deegan has been underwhelming so far...

For all the bragging, fake bravado, bullying, social media speculation, industry bantering / ass kissing is it time to say Deegan has been underwhelming so far? My Gosh we had video after video, post after post telling us he is “Rivals’ with the current 450 SX champ….

Yet he isn’t even dominating his regional feeder SX series. Rarely the fastest qualifier, and in track section break downs only fastest in 1 or 2 of the typical 8-10 sections of an SX track. On pure speed alone Joe, JuJu, Smith all seem to have him covered. Not to forget his coast (West) is seriously less stacked than the East, Joe is hurt, and Levi got sick, PC Team pounded with inuries anyway so it could be far worse. Yes he still might win the title but even then it's going down to the last race.......

No offense but he looks like a normal fast 250 regional SX serries guy w/A LOT of Monster Energy sponsorship and marketing. Mind you this is his 3rd full season. He isn’t a rookie anymore, but a series veteran.

 

Sir, your reasoning/argument, is as thin as Honey Bucket Butt Wipe!

5/11/2025 3:54pm

There’s a bunch of bozos in this thread who don’t know what the word ‘underwhelming’ means. 

Then there’s another bunch of bozos here who don’t understand that feelings of underwhelm are subjective. What one person finds underwhelm in, another might not. It's a personal experience that depends on individual perceptions, expectations, and circumstances. 

I was one of the guys who expected Deegs to win EVERY SX he entered this year.. 
The fact he didn’t win every race, I found underwhelming. 
This doesn’t mean I think he’s shit, or he’s had an unsuccessful season. 

You lot don’t know what to argue about next..
 



 

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5/11/2025 3:57pm

How does one season crow for consumption? 

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5/11/2025 4:14pm
TeamGreen wrote:

How does one season crow for consumption? 

Fuck that, they need to eat it raw with no seasoning. 

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There’s a bunch of bozos in this thread who don’t know what the word ‘underwhelming’ means. Then there’s another bunch of bozos here who don’t understand that...

There’s a bunch of bozos in this thread who don’t know what the word ‘underwhelming’ means. 

Then there’s another bunch of bozos here who don’t understand that feelings of underwhelm are subjective. What one person finds underwhelm in, another might not. It's a personal experience that depends on individual perceptions, expectations, and circumstances. 

I was one of the guys who expected Deegs to win EVERY SX he entered this year.. 
The fact he didn’t win every race, I found underwhelming. 
This doesn’t mean I think he’s shit, or he’s had an unsuccessful season. 

You lot don’t know what to argue about next..
 



 

I think this is a fair assessment…I too expected Deegan to win every race, especially the way he dominated everyone during the SMX finals..so yes was a bit underwhelming.

That being said, last night’s win was definitely a reminder of how fast he is..kind of what I expected at every round…

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