Tell me there isnt LUCK in MX?

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Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 5:46am
THAT IS LUCK!!!!!!!!!! All the guys out at the same time, getting schooled the entired moto only to lose on the last lap! LUCK!
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kwhite199 8/28/2010 12:01pm
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Who was getting schooled?
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calimxer91 8/28/2010 12:03pm
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Are you saying Honda was unlucky or unprepared?
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BobbyM 8/28/2010 12:05pm
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who said there isn't luck in mx?
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swizcore 8/28/2010 12:06pm
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MX7MX wrote:
THAT IS LUCK!!!!!!!!!! All the guys out at the same time, getting schooled the entired moto only to lose on the last lap! LUCK!
You call it luck, I call it racing. Its unpredictable.

Luck is a copout.

Honda could have used larger gas tanks and not run out of gas. That would be preparation not luck, good or bad.

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captmoto 8/28/2010 12:07pm
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Moto is the one sport where you can do a thousand things right and 1 thing will take you out completely. It was a great race. Metty is finally realizing his potential.
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Nielsen277 8/28/2010 12:08pm
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It's called putting yourself in the right place at the right time.
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FastEddy 8/28/2010 12:10pm
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Wasn't it RC that said...."you make your own luck". Smile
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ocscottie 8/28/2010 12:11pm
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FastEddy wrote:
Wasn't it RC that said...."you make your own luck".
Wasn't it RC that said...."you make your own luck". Smile
yep
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swizcore 8/28/2010 12:14pm
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FastEddy wrote:
Wasn't it RC that said...."you make your own luck".
Wasn't it RC that said...."you make your own luck". Smile
Absolutely and don't think for a second that wasn't code for "preparation".



Some folks need it spelled out for them Eddy- not you though I know.
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calimxer91 8/28/2010 12:16pm
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FastEddy wrote:
Wasn't it RC that said...."you make your own luck".
Wasn't it RC that said...."you make your own luck". Smile
And how f'd up it is that you're only as good as you're last race.On paper Metty folded but in reality its not true.
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Hank_Thrill 8/28/2010 12:17pm
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Take a look at the big picture: Dungey has kicked everyone's ass 95% of the time so far. Pointing to one instance, where he benefited from someone else's misfortune, doesn't make him lucky.



If he were to dominate 90% of the time, based on scenarios like we saw in moto #1 - that would be "LUCK!"
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raddad 8/28/2010 12:24pm
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Hank_Thrill wrote:
Take a look at the big picture: Dungey has kicked everyone's ass 95% of the time so far. Pointing to one instance, where he benefited from...
Take a look at the big picture: Dungey has kicked everyone's ass 95% of the time so far. Pointing to one instance, where he benefited from someone else's misfortune, doesn't make him lucky.



If he were to dominate 90% of the time, based on scenarios like we saw in moto #1 - that would be "LUCK!"
Yep i agree.. not luck when you run up front all the time and win most of the the time. When things like this happen who really would know "what could have been"?
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raddad 8/28/2010 12:24pm
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Hank_Thrill wrote:
Take a look at the big picture: Dungey has kicked everyone's ass 95% of the time so far. Pointing to one instance, where he benefited from...
Take a look at the big picture: Dungey has kicked everyone's ass 95% of the time so far. Pointing to one instance, where he benefited from someone else's misfortune, doesn't make him lucky.



If he were to dominate 90% of the time, based on scenarios like we saw in moto #1 - that would be "LUCK!"
Yep i agree.. not luck when you run up front all the time and win most of the the time. When things like this happen who really would know "what could have been"?
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gsxrcr28 8/28/2010 12:26pm
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I think there might be a little luck in every Championship. I would bet at some point in every Champions season there was a time when they almost crashed and thought it was a little lucky to save it. But fact is Dungey is the man this season and deserves everything he has accomplished.
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swizcore 8/28/2010 12:28pm
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I can understand how excuse makers throw "luck" around when there is a changing of the guard but to use it now when its been going on for a solid 8 months is just idiocy.
mxpilot43 8/28/2010 12:30pm
8/28/2010 12:30pm
FastEddy wrote:
Wasn't it RC that said...."you make your own luck".
Wasn't it RC that said...."you make your own luck". Smile
ocscottie wrote:
yep
not only in racing but in every aspect of life.
TheCynic82 8/28/2010 12:33pm
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FastEddy wrote:
Wasn't it RC that said...."you make your own luck".
Wasn't it RC that said...."you make your own luck". Smile
So better not sign with an honda team! :D
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jaeckle 8/28/2010 12:35pm
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There is no such thing as Luck. Only fate. You live right and things go your way. Call him Dungey boring. Call him anything you want. He lives for one reason. Winning pro mx races. No house. No cars. No chics. No tv show. No distractions.

James knew this and that is why he bailed. JS did not want to lose his sponsors do to not being able to hang with the "FASTEST MAN ON THE PLANET".........RYAN DUNGEY.

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bobby397 8/28/2010 12:38pm
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luck? dungey put himself in position for a mistake and took advantage of a big one made by honda!!
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Rudeboy119 8/28/2010 12:40pm
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would of only delayed the inevitable championship for Dungy for another hour where he would of needed an 18th to clinch. Noe go get pissed!
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jaeckle 8/28/2010 12:41pm
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A hundred plus point lead is not luck folks. Domination is a more accurate word. Shits over. Dungey is officially the Fastest man on the planet.
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Keith Stone 8/28/2010 12:46pm
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So nobody's ever considered themselves lucky?
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ocscottie 8/28/2010 12:55pm
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Keith Stone wrote:
So nobody's ever considered themselves lucky?
you should.
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Keith Stone 8/28/2010 12:59pm
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Keith Stone wrote:
So nobody's ever considered themselves lucky?
ocscottie wrote:
you should.
I'm blessed, not lucky
Antipodean 8/28/2010 7:04pm
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Isn't luck, fate, karma, feeling blessed, or whatever else one believes, just that - a belief? Doesn't science show that the positive outcomes attributed to these beliefs is nothing more than statistical probability?



Whether or not one believes RD is lucky - or that he's a great deal maker (as suggested on a recently clicked thread); science seems to support the argument that by placing himself in contention every single moto RD significantly increases the probability of finishing on the podium.



Congratulations RD for doing whatever was necessary to put yourself in contention moto after moto - luck and all.
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At the end of the day, all that matters is who's name ends up in the record books.

Training, prep, wrench, determination and good fortune are always on the side of the person ending up with the most points.

If everything went right for each of the riders having a problem today, the end result doesn't change. Dungey has put himself in a position to win each weekend, and the championship from the start.

All the Dungey ney sayers will be seeing his name in the record books for a long time to come. The kid deserves all the good things coming his way. One of the few that success hasn't spoiled.
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txmxer 8/28/2010 7:53pm
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Did Dungey spank the field in the second moto? Hasn't he done that all season?

I'd say these guys are pushing it to hang with RD in the first moto. By the 2nd moto they don't have anything left.
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sc961 8/28/2010 7:59pm
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txmxer wrote:
Did Dungey spank the field in the second moto? Hasn't he done that all season? I'd say these guys are pushing it to hang with RD...
Did Dungey spank the field in the second moto? Hasn't he done that all season?

I'd say these guys are pushing it to hang with RD in the first moto. By the 2nd moto they don't have anything left.
Would you then say that Ryan is just lucky to feel so good for all those 2nd moto's?Whistling

Kinda fits right in there with all the other talk of luckiness....
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txmxer 8/28/2010 8:04pm
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txmxer wrote:
Did Dungey spank the field in the second moto? Hasn't he done that all season? I'd say these guys are pushing it to hang with RD...
Did Dungey spank the field in the second moto? Hasn't he done that all season?

I'd say these guys are pushing it to hang with RD in the first moto. By the 2nd moto they don't have anything left.
sc961 wrote:
Would you then say that Ryan is just lucky to feel so good for all those 2nd moto's?:whistle: Kinda fits right in there with all the...
Would you then say that Ryan is just lucky to feel so good for all those 2nd moto's?Whistling

Kinda fits right in there with all the other talk of luckiness....
You got it Scott. Dude is a luck factory Wink
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Outsider 8/28/2010 8:09pm
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Back in January of this year, if asked your top 3 AMA racers, would any of you guys put RD in the top 3? Outdoors, maybe, but indoors?

It's not really about good luck for RD, it's about being super prepared against a field with a truck load of bad luck, karma, mojo, mechanicals, 350's, jail terms, etc.

It hasn't been a very good year for almost everyone else, heck look at Metty today.... Blink

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