YZ250 Piston Ring Snapped

yamaboost480
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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 11:04am
to start the story off i was out practicing today at Baja Acres in michigan. during the fourth practice my bike bogged down and i pulled off the track. no compression. so i torn down the bike and the result was a snapped top compression ring which gouged my cylinder. this motor was fresh and very well maintained. maybe about an hour on the top end with a week old cylinder. i ve been around the block with racing and all and my dad and i know how to work on the bikes but what has caused the piston ring to snap. this has happened to me earlier in the season too. i have a stock 2007 yz250 2 stroke running stock jetting (which looks and runs great at the elevation here), Yamaha 2r premix 32:1. now today i mixed a gallon of 110 and 3 gallons of 93 together which works out to 97.25 octane. i was told that these bikes seem to have a problem of detonation off of 93 pump gas so i gave it a shot. i have never had this problem with any other bike as far as 60s, 80s, or 125s. could it be that 110 oct. that was mixed?

any input on the cause of this happening would be much appreciated
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cm244
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8/23/2010 6:31am
I don't think the octane has anything to do with it. From what I know detonation will usually damage the piston and I have seen a small hole blown in a piston as a result before. It is probably better that you are running 97 octane in warmer temperatures.
I think your issue may be related to tolerances in the cylinder. You mentioned the cylinder is a week old, so I assume it has minimal wear. I know that as your cylinder wears it creates a groove at the top that could cause the ring to snap if it were to hit against it.
Does your piston and ring fit nice and snug in the cylinder? Also, what letter is stamped on the outside of the cylinder. I used to race YZ250s and they stamp the cylinder with a letter based on the bore tolerance.
8/23/2010 7:16am
If the cylinder wasn't chamfered properly it can snag the ring and break it.
moto314
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8/23/2010 7:19am
On two stroke pistons there is a small pin in the ring groove that keeps the ring from spinning, these have been know to come out and let the ring spin. If the end gap lines up with a port, it could catch the ring and snap it off. Check the piston to see if the pin is still there.
yamaboost480
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8/23/2010 7:48am Edited Date/Time 8/23/2010 7:49am
when i say a week old i just got it back from U.S. Chrome which is a highly recognized company for plating cylinders. it was re-nickel siliconed (chrome lining or cylinder wall) to the exact yamaha specifications which is within .0001 and it mic'd right to the specifications of the B cylinder. it is a B cylinder and i put a B piston in it. all oem components were used when i put the new top end in. i did the heat cycles and broke it in before i rode. im just really confused as to why this happened. the only thing i did different was add that 110 to the mixture but i cant see that making a bike blow up.

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CamP
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8/23/2010 8:38am
See xnationalwrench's post above.
circus
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8/23/2010 8:43am
If the cylinder wasn't chamfered properly it can snag the ring and break it.
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8/30/2010 11:33am
Did you check the ring end gap, if you were close on minimum clearance when it got hot, the ends of the ring could have butted and boom.

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