Bubba could be IN for the nations after all..

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Way to show your ignorance. Anyone who is born and raised in the USA and lives as an American citizen who goes to ride for another...
Way to show your ignorance. Anyone who is born and raised in the USA and lives as an American citizen who goes to ride for another country just so they can get on a bike and say they rode the MXDN is useless. For the retards that can't read a general statement without twisting it and making it something it's not. I'm talking about ANYONE
flarider wrote:
Umm...let's try this again.... Puerto Rico is a US Territory The President of Puerto Rico is the same president as yours in Washington, DC The Congress...
Umm...let's try this again....

Puerto Rico is a US Territory
The President of Puerto Rico is the same president as yours in Washington, DC
The Congress that governs Puerto Rico is the same as yours in Washington, DC
The people of Puerto Rico are US Citizens by birth
The people of Puerto Rico are issued US Passports

You do understand that, right?

Dave, why is PR allowed to field an MXoN team when they are by all accounts part of the US?
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Peurto Rico is part of the U.S., while not officially a State, so it should not be permitted to field a team to the MXdN.
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I always wonder why Decoster is the manager being that he is from Belgium. Mitch seems like the one who should be USA's manager. Not that I don't want Decoster just doesn't make sense. Just saying..
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Trip, thanks, I am always up for a good bench race or history chat. I might know more about Word War I than motocross!

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Highsider wrote:
Wait...I have only read part of it, but I have learned some facts: - weeksfan is a tard - the French had a territory team in...
Wait...I have only read part of it, but I have learned some facts:

- weeksfan is a tard

- the French had a territory team in '88

I learned that Trip runs the number 338 on his truck license plate, talk about superfan.

Reading this thread I reminds me of Belushi's "was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor?"
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8/21/2010 3:21pm
swizcore wrote:
Dave, why is PR allowed to field an MXoN team when they are by all accounts part of the US?
I was waiting for someone to come up with that.
My response is "I don't know"
But seems to me, it is silly.
I supposed if the Dutch had enough good riders and money, they could field a "Team Netherlands," a "Team Dutch West Indies" and a "Team Aruba"

The British could have Team Britain, Team No. Ireland, Team Scotland and Team British West Indies

It could get silly if certain countries had the riders and resources, don't you think?

IMO, IF THIS HAPPENED (and I say it won't), you can bet that not only will the rules change for next year, but several teams will sit out in protest.
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DC wrote:
Trip, thanks, I am always up for a good bench race or history chat. I might know more about Word War I than motocross! DC MX...
Trip, thanks, I am always up for a good bench race or history chat. I might know more about Word War I than motocross!

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DC do you have any further details on what allows Puerto Rico to field a team even though they are part of the US? Is it simply a vague rule relating to contiguous bodies of land?
8/21/2010 3:56pm
DC wrote:
Trip, thanks, I am always up for a good bench race or history chat. I might know more about Word War I than motocross! DC MX...
Trip, thanks, I am always up for a good bench race or history chat. I might know more about Word War I than motocross!

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swizcore wrote:
DC do you have any further details on what allows Puerto Rico to field a team even though they are part of the US? Is it...
DC do you have any further details on what allows Puerto Rico to field a team even though they are part of the US? Is it simply a vague rule relating to contiguous bodies of land?
I have no idea what the rules are for moto but, I would think it would be similar to why Puerto Rico is allowed to field their own Olympic team. I do think that on a MXoN team that the riders should be native to the territory and not just any American citizen.
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8/21/2010 4:13pm
Why would any American care if Puerto Rico fields a competitive team? If the American and Puerto Rican teams do well at the MXoN, it's a win/win for us. The big losers are the foreign teams that get bumped down a notch.
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CamP wrote:
Why would any American care if Puerto Rico fields a competitive team? If the American and Puerto Rican teams do well at the MXoN, it's a...
Why would any American care if Puerto Rico fields a competitive team? If the American and Puerto Rican teams do well at the MXoN, it's a win/win for us. The big losers are the foreign teams that get bumped down a notch.
I don't care if they do, I'm just curious what allows them to and why other countries who may have similar geographical scenarios don't take advantage.
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I think the idea is cool.,
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8/21/2010 6:53pm
CamP wrote:
Why would any American care if Puerto Rico fields a competitive team? If the American and Puerto Rican teams do well at the MXoN, it's a...
Why would any American care if Puerto Rico fields a competitive team? If the American and Puerto Rican teams do well at the MXoN, it's a win/win for us. The big losers are the foreign teams that get bumped down a notch.
Such an obvious question...They are all Americans. We want to see the best of the US...this gives us 3 more opportunities.
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8/21/2010 6:53pm Edited Date/Time 8/21/2010 6:56pm
CamP wrote:
Why would any American care if Puerto Rico fields a competitive team? If the American and Puerto Rican teams do well at the MXoN, it's a...
Why would any American care if Puerto Rico fields a competitive team? If the American and Puerto Rican teams do well at the MXoN, it's a win/win for us. The big losers are the foreign teams that get bumped down a notch.
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8/21/2010 7:33pm Edited Date/Time 8/21/2010 7:37pm
CamP wrote:
Why would any American care if Puerto Rico fields a competitive team? If the American and Puerto Rican teams do well at the MXoN, it's a...
Why would any American care if Puerto Rico fields a competitive team? If the American and Puerto Rican teams do well at the MXoN, it's a win/win for us. The big losers are the foreign teams that get bumped down a notch.
And as a person representing one of the "suffering" nations I salute that suggestion!
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500guy wrote:
Turn the race into a Joke, like it's been heading for years anyways.
X2 and mean it.
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I have no idea, but I always thought of Puerto Rico as a different cow try anyway, and it's where Roberto Clemente died in 1973.... But I will ask around.

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I always wonder why Decoster is the manager being that he is from Belgium. Mitch seems like the one who should be USA's manager. Not that...
I always wonder why Decoster is the manager being that he is from Belgium. Mitch seems like the one who should be USA's manager. Not that I don't want Decoster just doesn't make sense. Just saying..
I've wondered the same thing..... haha
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Why is Puerto Rico even eligable to have a team if they are considered property of the United States?
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Thanks for the history lesson, DC. I watch every WWII doc that I can find. I just never really put much thought into how past events effect motocross.
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I learned that Trip runs the number 338 on his truck license plate, talk about superfan. Reading this thread I reminds me of Belushi's "was it...
I learned that Trip runs the number 338 on his truck license plate, talk about superfan.

Reading this thread I reminds me of Belushi's "was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor?"
Plates are kind of a family joke....Daughter and wife thought it would be funny to get me personalized plates. So yeah, at the time Jason was suspended, so my plates say FREE 338, kinda lame I know, but it was funny when they showed up outta the blue for Christmas... When registration comes dues again, I may get rid of them. Hang em in the garage, or transfer it to my trailer...Maybe that other 338 dude could get intop some trouble and make them relevent again....Wink
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I think it will be Barcia as 3rd guy
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Following motogroove's lead here are some more interesting reads on Puerto Rico and their "independent-dependance" with the US relating to Olympics.

Puerto Rico has a team because it is a political entity which has its own National Olympic Committee. Even though it is not an independent country, and for most purposes it is equivalent to the 50 states and the District of Columbia, it is distinct enough politically and culturally to be able to have its own Olympic team. Guam, American Samoa and the US Virgin Islands.

The two main reasons why those four territories have their own Olympic committees are firstly, because the locals were able to raise the money and develop the infrastructure to have a team and secondly, because the USA's Olympic committee had no objection to this.

Usually, a nation-state has only one Olympic team, but there are other exceptions. Israel & Palestine have separate teams. So do the People's Republic of China, Taiwan ("Chinese Taipei") and Hong Kong. France has several Overseas Departments which have their own teams.

And another non-Wiki read:
Following the lopsided 92-73 defeat the Puerto Rican men's basketball team handed the United States in Athens Sunday, many Americans were shocked. Not only did the U.S. team lose for only the third time in the history of its Olympic competition, it lost to a commonwealth of the United States. How can Puerto Rico, whose residents are U.S. citizens, field its own Olympic team?

Puerto Rico can send athletes to Greece because the International Olympic Committee, the governing body that makes all decisions about the administration and operation of the games, has recognized the island's National Olympic Committee. Such committees are the official representatives of each Olympic delegation and are approved only after meeting criteria established by the IOC. But while the standards such national committees must meet are clear, the rules governing who can form them are considerably murkier. The Olympic Charter explains that "the expression 'country' means an independent State recognized by the international community," and the IOC recognized Puerto Rico as such an entity in 1948. Although the United States granted the island the right to elect its own governor in the same year, that power is nothing like full independence. The U.S. Department of the Interior still classifies Puerto Rico as an "insular area" of the United States—a "jurisdiction that is neither a part of one of the several States nor a Federal district." But apparently the IOC considers insular areas sufficiently independent to participate in the games; the committee recognized the U.S. Virgin Islands in 1967, Guam in 1986, and American Samoa in 1987.
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Over the years, the IOC's practice of recognizing states that are not fully sovereign has generated controversy. In 1965, for example, the white elite of Rhodesia declared independence from Great Britain to avoid following through with a British plan to cede power to the country's black majority. Other African nations considered the new republic illegal, and in 1972, several of them threatened to withdraw from the Munich Games unless the IOC barred Rhodesia from participating. The IOC had earlier recognized Rhodesia under its colonial flag and thus found itself in a dilemma; eventually, the committee excluded Rhodesian athletes on a technicality related to their travel documents. More recently, the IOC angered some Israelis with its decision to recognize a Palestinian National Olympic Committee. Following the move, which came in response to the 1993 peace accords between the Israelis and Palestinians, Israel petitioned the IOC to bar Palestinian athletes from marching under a "Palestine" banner. Israel's foreign ministry claimed no such nation existed, but the IOC rebuffed the request.
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DC wrote:
Trip, thanks, I am always up for a good bench race or history chat. I might know more about Word War I than motocross! DC MX...
Trip, thanks, I am always up for a good bench race or history chat. I might know more about Word War I than motocross!

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Impressive - History is great - world war 1 was unbelievable... and Hitler was just a wounded soldier lol
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DC wrote:
Trip, thanks, I am always up for a good bench race or history chat. I might know more about Word War I than motocross! DC MX...
Trip, thanks, I am always up for a good bench race or history chat. I might know more about Word War I than motocross!

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Impressive - History is great - world war 1 was unbelievable... and Hitler was just a wounded soldier lol
8/22/2010 7:01pm
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Now he's going to be a TRAITOR? Maybe he should hand in his man card and his USA citizenship. He could move to puerto rico and...
Now he's going to be a TRAITOR? Maybe he should hand in his man card and his USA citizenship. He could move to puerto rico and live happily ever after.
Nice you moron. Does that make Travis Pastrana a traitor for representing Puerto Rico too? I think you should hand in your balls because you're too stupid to reproduce.
8/22/2010 7:03pm
f$&%k james stewart, the stupid wants to be condisered, when he has been retired from mx for 2 years, and couse now he is getting back to mx (riding horrible), he must be on mxon when he hasn't race any race???? has he considered the hard working of short or all the other guys who really deserves to be on it?

dishonor usa, and usa will kick you out.
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f$&%k james stewart, the stupid wants to be condisered, when he has been retired from mx for 2 years, and couse now he is getting back...
f$&%k james stewart, the stupid wants to be condisered, when he has been retired from mx for 2 years, and couse now he is getting back to mx (riding horrible), he must be on mxon when he hasn't race any race???? has he considered the hard working of short or all the other guys who really deserves to be on it?

dishonor usa, and usa will kick you out.
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You all forget he has many other vested interest. Did we all forget he has a little company called Stewart Productions. His fans, me and sponsors want to see him ride. If it also creates little controversy, even better! I'm even more excite for the Dungey/Stewart battles coming in A1.

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