Scorpiovic - Temu

Edited Date/Time 2/24/2025 10:43pm

Anyone else see the knockoff crap Temu are flogging?

Just browsed through the Temu website and it's shocking to see the amount of knock-offs. I saw Thor gear as fake as Pamela Anderson's titties.

So many legit products copied and the name gets varied slightly. 

It's blatant piracy, copyright and patent infringement.

Here's a example. The Scorpiovic tail pipe.

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I went to a US Studies Center event at the Uni last night - subject - China Trade etc.

One of my fellow Audience - who's Not a Pro China advocate - he was putting the ' Cat among the Pidgeon's ', so to speak, to further broaden the discussion -  put forward that, perhaps  the accusations of 'IP and Design' theft by China, was a 'bit much' - citing how it was a common accusation of Japanese Industry in earlier decades.

After, I showed him , and others, just this sort of thing that you, Boom have shown. Using Pictures and Ads, and comparisons of Original Products, and the Copies on Temu - and so many other sites. 

Quite a few were somewhat Gobsmacked by it - note, most of the people I showed this, exist in quite a different world to many. I 'travel' between the real, Hands Dirty and Torn up World , and the World of Academia. Both are quite interesting / fun, and Both are remarkably ignorant of each other. 

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2/24/2025 11:10pm
Bearuno wrote:
I went to a US Studies Center event at the Uni last night - subject - China Trade etc.One of my fellow Audience - who's Not...

I went to a US Studies Center event at the Uni last night - subject - China Trade etc.

One of my fellow Audience - who's Not a Pro China advocate - he was putting the ' Cat among the Pidgeon's ', so to speak, to further broaden the discussion -  put forward that, perhaps  the accusations of 'IP and Design' theft by China, was a 'bit much' - citing how it was a common accusation of Japanese Industry in earlier decades.

After, I showed him , and others, just this sort of thing that you, Boom have shown. Using Pictures and Ads, and comparisons of Original Products, and the Copies on Temu - and so many other sites. 

Quite a few were somewhat Gobsmacked by it - note, most of the people I showed this, exist in quite a different world to many. I 'travel' between the real, Hands Dirty and Torn up World , and the World of Academia. Both are quite interesting / fun, and Both are remarkably ignorant of each other. 

China will keep doing it as long as we let them. 

I have not idea how one would deter this. What do you think Bearuno? 

South Africa is swamped with Chinese knockoffs. Chinese warehouses are built in every city here and they supply the Chinese shops which are everywhere. 

 

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Deter Them?

I've No Fuggin idea, Boom.

Well, other than Us not buying such stuff.

Here's an example of how things go : I've a mate that, with me, worked at Staintune, decades ago. He's (long) back in Tassie, now making  Exhausts. He does Lovely stuff.

Now, I've a few exhaust systems to do for my own, personal  Ducatis, so, Not remotely off the shelf / production exhausts - if I ever finish them (doubtful). I've not got the equipment for bending tubing, other than basic manual benders for the very, very rare non straight tubes I use for my Frames etc. And, I'm well over ( and, I have to admit, rapidly becoming bereft of the abilities to do fine work) doing 'Lobster' exhaust sections, so, will probably get him to do a bunch of bends etc for me.

But, even at 'mates rates' , well, him doing things for me at a loss for him, the price of  getting raw bends and tubing ex China are so, so low. I'll Not go that way, but I can see why so many do.

How do other Economies compete with what is, in reality, no matter what 'private' ownership there is in China, Is a Command Economy?

Fugged if I know - and No, our economies, should never resort to that sort of thing, though, I fear that it is becoming very much what a few F**wits are being drawn to.

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2/25/2025 2:53am

Wowzers. They even have “brembo” brakes 

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2/25/2025 6:48am
Bearuno wrote:
I went to a US Studies Center event at the Uni last night - subject - China Trade etc.One of my fellow Audience - who's Not...

I went to a US Studies Center event at the Uni last night - subject - China Trade etc.

One of my fellow Audience - who's Not a Pro China advocate - he was putting the ' Cat among the Pidgeon's ', so to speak, to further broaden the discussion -  put forward that, perhaps  the accusations of 'IP and Design' theft by China, was a 'bit much' - citing how it was a common accusation of Japanese Industry in earlier decades.

After, I showed him , and others, just this sort of thing that you, Boom have shown. Using Pictures and Ads, and comparisons of Original Products, and the Copies on Temu - and so many other sites. 

Quite a few were somewhat Gobsmacked by it - note, most of the people I showed this, exist in quite a different world to many. I 'travel' between the real, Hands Dirty and Torn up World , and the World of Academia. Both are quite interesting / fun, and Both are remarkably ignorant of each other. 

I’m more curious about this event you went to where everyone was “gobsmacked” that Chinese ripoffs exist. 

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2/25/2025 6:57am

Once they close the section 321 loophole it's over for Temu

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2/25/2025 7:05am

At least you have some funny cat moments to calm you down after crossing paths with the Temu ad.

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2/25/2025 7:21am Edited Date/Time 2/25/2025 7:23am
crusty_xx wrote:

Once they close the section 321 loophole it's over for Temu

 

January 1, 2025, President Trump signed an executive action that included a clause to suspend the Section 321 customs de minimis entry process, which previously allowed shipments under $800 to enter the US duty-free. This means all ecommerce and cross-border retail shipments—previously benefiting from this exemption—will now be subject to tariffs. These changes will have major ripple effects, the first of which is the impact on global ecommerce brands who will need to quickly change their international fulfillment strategies.

Included in the executive action are a 25% tariff on imports from Canada and Mexico, (which have been delayed as of February 3), and a 10% tariff on imports from China which has gone into effect as of February 4, 2025.

There is a large backlog of packages that Customs is trying to sift through because of these quick changes. More negotiations are planned among the countries affected by these trade negotiations.

The tariffs will remain in effect indefinitely unless the president decides to remove them, and further increases are possible in the coming weeks. The orders also allow for additional tariff hikes if Canada, Mexico, or China retaliate—all three countries have already indicated they plan to respond. This could escalate trade tensions, leading to a cycle of retaliatory measures that may impact global supply chains and ecommerce businesses significantly.

What is Section 321? 

When products are imported into the US the Customs and Border Protection Department (CBP) applies taxes and duties based on the current international trade laws that apply to the shipment type. As stated in Section 321 of the Tariff Act of 1930, CBP is authorized to provide exclude duties and taxes for shipments with goods that aggregate a value lower than $800 US. 

This retail value threshold is called de minimis. Section 321 is commonly applied to shipments coming into the US. The de minimis threshold varies based on the country of import and the country of export—and it is determined by the government of the import country. Currently the Section 321 limit is <$800 USD but it was previously <$200 until 2015. De minimis is not to be confused with tariffs, which can also vary greatly depending on the country of origin. 

 

2/25/2025 7:26am
crusty_xx wrote:

Once they close the section 321 loophole it's over for Temu

Boomslang wrote:
 January 1, 2025, President Trump signed an executive action that included a clause to suspend the Section 321 customs de minimis entry process, which previously allowed...

 

January 1, 2025, President Trump signed an executive action that included a clause to suspend the Section 321 customs de minimis entry process, which previously allowed shipments under $800 to enter the US duty-free. This means all ecommerce and cross-border retail shipments—previously benefiting from this exemption—will now be subject to tariffs. These changes will have major ripple effects, the first of which is the impact on global ecommerce brands who will need to quickly change their international fulfillment strategies.

Included in the executive action are a 25% tariff on imports from Canada and Mexico, (which have been delayed as of February 3), and a 10% tariff on imports from China which has gone into effect as of February 4, 2025.

There is a large backlog of packages that Customs is trying to sift through because of these quick changes. More negotiations are planned among the countries affected by these trade negotiations.

The tariffs will remain in effect indefinitely unless the president decides to remove them, and further increases are possible in the coming weeks. The orders also allow for additional tariff hikes if Canada, Mexico, or China retaliate—all three countries have already indicated they plan to respond. This could escalate trade tensions, leading to a cycle of retaliatory measures that may impact global supply chains and ecommerce businesses significantly.

What is Section 321? 

When products are imported into the US the Customs and Border Protection Department (CBP) applies taxes and duties based on the current international trade laws that apply to the shipment type. As stated in Section 321 of the Tariff Act of 1930, CBP is authorized to provide exclude duties and taxes for shipments with goods that aggregate a value lower than $800 US. 

This retail value threshold is called de minimis. Section 321 is commonly applied to shipments coming into the US. The de minimis threshold varies based on the country of import and the country of export—and it is determined by the government of the import country. Currently the Section 321 limit is <$800 USD but it was previously <$200 until 2015. De minimis is not to be confused with tariffs, which can also vary greatly depending on the country of origin. 

 

It was suspended for like 24 hours but caused lots of logistical issues so they had to revert the change. For now.

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Scorpiovic...they make copies even mixing brand names...by the way, does anyone remember when Akrapovic exhausts were originally called Skorpion? (not Scorpion)

2/25/2025 8:02am

With all the Globalist Liberals here, I thought this was a victory

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2/25/2025 8:13am

It's not just China, look at Rocky Mountain ATV with their TUSK products. 

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2/25/2025 8:14am
Snail wrote:

Wowzers. They even have “brembo” brakes 

Godspeed trusting your wellbeing on some shit knock off brakes. 

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2/25/2025 8:25am

With all the Globalist Liberals here, I thought this was a victory

Economic globalism is not a left/right issue, it's all about profit, cheap labor, and higher margin products. Few businesses have any ideology beyond shareholder value. The western world made China what they are today. 

Not only do we hire the Chinese for cheap labor, we educate them in our state owned universities here in the USA. I bet you wont see them getting deported any time soon.

 

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