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BobbyM
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Edited Date/Time 1/23/2012 11:13pm
emailed me and told me the scoop with mike and that ktm. he/she doesn't post here or anywhere for that matter but sure does read the forums.

quote/unquote...............>

Mike Alessi is straight up getting smoked....because of that pile of shit KTM. Too slow, compared to those 450's. Look back at last year and you'll remember that Mike was a front runner and now that he's on that Shit Box 350, he can't get off the gate and gets pulled around the track, unless it's hard packed (Hangtown & Glen Helen).

so there you have it...bummer that POS 350 is the issue.
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US tracks are freeways..I reckon a CR500 would smoke the 450's. he/she is pure whinning, mikey needs to twist his right hand longer.
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7/17/2010 5:36pm Edited Date/Time 7/17/2010 5:41pm
How does Antonio Cairoli and his 350 fit into this scenario? Is he so much better than all the other guys in the GP's that he can still dominate? It is all a bit of a mystery. Is the euro "works" 350 that much better or is it a 380, 400, 420, etc?
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7/17/2010 5:42pm
DownSouth wrote:
How does Antonio Cairoli and his 350 fit into this scenario? Is he so much better than all the other guys in the GP's that he...
How does Antonio Cairoli and his 350 fit into this scenario? Is he so much better than all the other guys in the GP's that he can still dominate? It is all a bit of a mystery. Is the euro "works" 350 that much better or is it a 380, 400, 420, etc?
Well apparently according to Josh Coppins who writes a monthly article for ADB (Aussie Magazine) that rumor going around that Cairoli isn't riding a 350. Or he might be and still dominating.

I agree with MotoDude Mike just needs to twist the throttle more.
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7/17/2010 5:46pm
DownSouth wrote:
How does Antonio Cairoli and his 350 fit into this scenario? Is he so much better than all the other guys in the GP's that he...
How does Antonio Cairoli and his 350 fit into this scenario? Is he so much better than all the other guys in the GP's that he can still dominate? It is all a bit of a mystery. Is the euro "works" 350 that much better or is it a 380, 400, 420, etc?
From what I understand, KTM has a much better race team in Europe, and has the bike running well. Plus, I'm sure they can use all sorts of trick parts there since they don't have a production rule.

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Cairloi beat Mike with his bike stuck in 3rd - nough said
Also, when did GH become a hardpack track?
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I am not sure what is exactly different between the GP and AMA Ktm's, but "works" bikes are allowed in Europe right? If so, there is why Cairoli is able to remain competetive.

Do i think Mike would be at the front with a Cairoli bike if that difference does exist? Not at all, but i dont think he would be getting beat quite as bad.
7/17/2010 5:53pm
Cairolli > Alessi

Why would the Alessis knowingly sign into a contract to race a 350 if it wasn't going to be competitive? If the bike is so bad then they have just proven themselves again to be the stupidest MX family in history.
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7/17/2010 5:58pm
Cairolli > Alessi Why would the Alessis knowingly sign into a contract to race a 350 if it wasn't going to be competitive? If the bike...
Cairolli > Alessi

Why would the Alessis knowingly sign into a contract to race a 350 if it wasn't going to be competitive? If the bike is so bad then they have just proven themselves again to be the stupidest MX family in history.
no other choice...canadae suzuki wanted mike but was a incentive type deal...tony or dani said fo
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its not the bike
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7/17/2010 6:01pm
I would bet that if you put Cairoli on Mike's bike in the US nationals he would be top 3 at least.
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7/17/2010 6:13pm
DownSouth wrote:
I would bet that if you put Cairoli on Mike's bike in the US nationals he would be top 3 at least.
for sure. not to take anything away from mike, but he holeshots and he stays up front because of a good start. thats it. Cairoli on the other hand is a champion and can dominate...mike is not and does not.
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7/17/2010 6:21pm
Pardon me while I call,,,,, BOLOGNA. A poor craftsman blames his tools. Better hope Cairoli doesn't race Unadilla or Southwick if you're gonna spew excuses. I'll say it again, hiring Mike was THE dumbest thing KTM could have done.

Which Kawi team manager lined up back in the seventies to smoke his whole team so they would quit crying about the bike?
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7/17/2010 6:24pm
BobbyM wrote:
emailed me and told me the scoop with mike and that ktm. he/she doesn't post here or anywhere for that matter but sure does read the...
emailed me and told me the scoop with mike and that ktm. he/she doesn't post here or anywhere for that matter but sure does read the forums.

quote/unquote...............>

Mike Alessi is straight up getting smoked....because of that pile of shit KTM. Too slow, compared to those 450's. Look back at last year and you'll remember that Mike was a front runner and now that he's on that Shit Box 350, he can't get off the gate and gets pulled around the track, unless it's hard packed (Hangtown & Glen Helen).

so there you have it...bummer that POS 350 is the issue.
BS.

Cairoli-Alessi starting 1-2 at GP in GH. You need power to do that. I watched Red Bud starts, his reaction time was worse that my grandma's!

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you've also gotta remember while cairoli's bike is a works bike he's also riding against other works bikes so i'm not sure the difference between cairoli and alessi is the works bike.
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biggest problem is Mike's a top five rider and can only get a ride worthy of a lapper
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7/17/2010 6:59pm
I assume Mike could just hop on the very similiar 450 anytime he wanted?

I can only assume he is choosing the 350F at this time.

And "IF" the bike was not as competitive at the Pro 450 level that doesn't mean it's a pile by any means. It would just mean at that level the riders are so matched so closely that an extra 5-7lb/ tq really makes a difference. We all know that not to be the case for the average track day enthusiast/ local racer since most actually go faster for longer on the slower 250Fs compared to the 450Fs..

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7/17/2010 7:04pm
In the world? Was it Lenny? Come on BobbyM give us a little more info.
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I think the Suzuki Mike was riding last year was awesome and thats why he was at the front. It seems Reed and Alessi both under estimated what they had.

If Alessi was still on the Suzuki, I think we would see him up front more often. Put him on one of the other 450's and I don't think he would have done so good.

Its not just down to the 100cc, I haven't checked it out but what were top 3 250 lap times compared to Mikes today? would be interesting to compare.
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Fastest Lap Times

450 Moto 2

Alessi 2:13.684

250 Moto 2 (arguably a rougher track)

Canard 2:11.515
Wilson 2:11.392
Barcia 2:12.222

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7/17/2010 7:16pm Edited Date/Time 7/17/2010 7:24pm
It isn't a power issue. 250F laptimes prove that. Maybe the bike is a piece of crap and handles like a wet dog. That wouldn't surprise me.



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Mikey kicked ass when he rode a suzuki. not so much in supercross,but the outdoors,he hauled ass. feel bad for him. the dude can ride. too bad he couldnt of got on a suzuki satalite team. put him back on a rmz 4 fiddy,and it would be a different senario...
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7/17/2010 7:26pm
I think the 350 will fit certain racers better than the 450. That said, Alessi is a 450 guy. He wants to holeshot and hide.

Bubba on 350... look out
7/17/2010 7:29pm Edited Date/Time 7/17/2010 7:29pm
DownSouth wrote:
I would bet that if you put Cairoli on Mike's bike in the US nationals he would be top 3 at least.
That answer we will have next year as AC is headed here with Musquin for a factory KTM effort. If the 350 is such as pos why is 3 of the big 4 working on a 350 in japan?
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7/17/2010 8:00pm Edited Date/Time 7/17/2010 8:02pm
BobbyM wrote:
emailed me and told me the scoop with mike and that ktm. he/she doesn't post here or anywhere for that matter but sure does read the...
emailed me and told me the scoop with mike and that ktm. he/she doesn't post here or anywhere for that matter but sure does read the forums.

quote/unquote...............>

Mike Alessi is straight up getting smoked....because of that pile of shit KTM. Too slow, compared to those 450's. Look back at last year and you'll remember that Mike was a front runner and now that he's on that Shit Box 350, he can't get off the gate and gets pulled around the track, unless it's hard packed (Hangtown & Glen Helen).

so there you have it...bummer that POS 350 is the issue.
dv12.com wrote:
BS. Cairoli-Alessi starting 1-2 at GP in GH. You need power to do that. I watched Red Bud starts, his reaction time was worse that my...
BS.

Cairoli-Alessi starting 1-2 at GP in GH. You need power to do that. I watched Red Bud starts, his reaction time was worse that my grandma's!

I actually don't agree with the entrie POS bike thing...poor mike got his head unscrewed then got it cross threaded on the reinstall.

but for the most part mike is a confidence racer and if the confidence is not there because of the scooter he will never get it back....on said scooter
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7/17/2010 8:12pm Edited Date/Time 7/17/2010 8:14pm
That answer we will have next year as AC is headed here with Musquin for a factory KTM effort. If the 350 is such as pos...
That answer we will have next year as AC is headed here with Musquin for a factory KTM effort. If the 350 is such as pos why is 3 of the big 4 working on a 350 in japan?
"If the 350 is such as pos why is 3 of the big 4 working on a 350 in japan?"

Where did this info come from? A Honda 350 would be one mean sucker.

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7/17/2010 8:16pm
Cairolli > Alessi Why would the Alessis knowingly sign into a contract to race a 350 if it wasn't going to be competitive? If the bike...
Cairolli > Alessi

Why would the Alessis knowingly sign into a contract to race a 350 if it wasn't going to be competitive? If the bike is so bad then they have just proven themselves again to be the stupidest MX family in history.
BobbyM wrote:
no other choice...canadae suzuki wanted mike but was a incentive type deal...tony or dani said fo
Dani? Dani???

Is that some kind of a fuggin joke.....?

If that's true, it's all making sense now.
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That answer we will have next year as AC is headed here with Musquin for a factory KTM effort. If the 350 is such as pos...
That answer we will have next year as AC is headed here with Musquin for a factory KTM effort. If the 350 is such as pos why is 3 of the big 4 working on a 350 in japan?
JB 19 wrote:
"If the 350 is such as pos why is 3 of the big 4 working on a 350 in japan?" Where did this info come from...
"If the 350 is such as pos why is 3 of the big 4 working on a 350 in japan?"

Where did this info come from? A Honda 350 would be one mean sucker.

men don't ride 350's...fact. hell this one legged fucker still rides a 500
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7/17/2010 8:40pm
RV figured out how to make a 250 go faster than a bunch of 450s at Budd's Creek a few years ago. That isn't exactly a "hardpack" track.
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7/17/2010 9:15pm
Im sure in his contract his deal has something to do with racing, AND also being a development rider for the 350.

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7/17/2010 10:03pm
Motodude wrote:
US tracks are freeways..I reckon a CR500 would smoke the 450's. he/she is pure whinning, mikey needs to twist his right hand longer.
Freeways? Are you the Sarah Palin of motocross? You can see that from your house?

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