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I can only relate to the motor cycle business. Take MMI for example, it's a great school but is the equivalent to pre med. Graduates are an entry level employee and the real learning begins with years of experience and low wages, many don't make it. Not the schools fault, but people come out expecting top pay thinking they deserve it right away. Others don't want to work at all and are on their phones all day.
Pretty much my point. This celebrating mediocrity thru out their early life only leads to feelings of entitlement later .My wife was a GM of a country club for years and could tell you the same thing. It was almost impossible to field a full staff that wanted to actually work. As a business owner and dealing with the public daily for 40 years , I can 100% attest to the dramatic changes in the 20-30 year old demographic in the past 25 years or so,and its most definitely not a positive one.
Also, to be clear, I’m not suggesting it’s JUST an American problem, but it’s the only group I witness.
However ,that being said,as a 65 year old racer and cancer patient , I have more than my fair share of Doctors,Specialists,Surgeons in my life and often wonder why 75% of them are young and of “International “ descent. Not complaining at all ,because we have some of the finest Doctors and healthcare professionals in the country here in western Pa., just an observation
I must add....the Teachers Unions (Randi Dandy Weingarten) and the conspiracy to close down schools
and the fear mongering that came with it has caused a tremendous harm to our childre.
The Social isolation of children in their "Tender years" has proven to be highly detrimental to learning.
My wife is a Teacher of littles....Kindergarten age...learning Reading and sounding out words is difficult with a mask.
My wife went to school everyday and did her best to keep her kids on track, and the parents that sent their "sick with covid"
child had no respect for my wife or myself, and the other kids..... everyone could be contagious.
We have had "Covid" 5 times each btw.
Now, she doesn't even ask, just passes out kleenex and germicide.
Now the Fearmongering of Bird Flu is here.
We didn't comply last time, and we damn sure are not going to start now.
Watch this disturbing video. You couldn't make it past 5th grade if you couldn't answer every one of these simple questions when I was in school. What happened? I know...
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The level of abysmal stupidity in these morons is downright depressing. College students? All women care about is looking good and being popular, and the men just want to get laid.
My 10-year-old daughter got most of these right!
Congrats on being the exception to the rule…the exception, as they say, does prove the rule though.
What rule? You have nothing, so don't even bother.
Evidence continues to mount showing that excessive video gaming has significant negative affects…the vast majority of hard core gamers than I know aren’t productive members of society, are unhealthy (physically, mentally), lack ambition and drive, and have social issues.
This study from Harvard seems to support that:
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/the-health-effects-of-too-much-gaming-2020122221645
”Gaming has also been associated with sleep deprivation, insomnia and circadian rhythm disorders, depression, aggression, and anxiety, though more studies are needed to establish the validity and the strength of these connections. There has also been concern that exposure to the extreme violence that is commonly found in video games can desensitize teens and young adults to such violence, causing emotional problems and even leading to young people committing acts of violence.”
Video game addiction is a real life thing…yo the point there are support groups for it.
Like I said, there are exceptions…but the exceptions prove the rule…
Well, yeah. Anything in excess is a problem. SoCal isn't saying he has a video game addiction problem, and I'd assume he would agree with the notion that excessive gaming to the point of addiction is not going to produce good outcomes. The "rule" only applies if you have no self control or let it get out of hand.
The "kids these days" attitude is so fucking dumb and such a deflection of responsibility. No young kid is getting addicted to video games without their parents enabling it.
I struggled with it in my teens, early adulthood, and after some rude awakenings, I eventually figured out a healthy balance. I don't blame my parents because it was a world they knew nothing about and I was largely independent from them by the time it became a problem. There is no excuse these days though. My oldest son is clearly, to me and my wife, a prime candidate for video game addiction. So we are very aware of his screen time and hands on in teaching him about self-limiting and maintaining healthy boundaries.
Said it better than I could. Hardcore gamer <> addicted. I'm clearly not addicted as a functioning member of society. Assuming addiction to gaming because I game is NOT "the rule".
Also, that isn't a study, it's a blog post. There's one study linked that shows a connection between gaming and increased food intake (BFD). The other study is in regards to a disorder where there isn't consensus that it even exists.
The offhand "there's a concern" comment regarding violent behavior that links to an OPINION piece is nonsense. There is no study linked there because there is no proof/consensus.
Every "kids these days" argument about anything is just a reflection on shitty parenting... And every parent you talk to has some glowing story about how they're raising their kids right. No one wants to own anything, so we can argue this crap all day if we want, but it's rather pointless. The cycle of deflection will continue.
"Too much of anything is bad, but too much good whiskey is barely enough."
You can hate the source all you want...but, its worth noting that I didn't say there is a conclusive connection between video games and all of those negative side affects...I said evidence is mounting...meaning there isn't enough evidence now to prove a connection, but every year it seems there is more evidence and more medical/mental health professionals drawing the conclusion that video games do more harm than good. (My neighbor is a PhD family therapist specializing in children and adolescents...he won't let video games in his house, he says he sees the negative side effects of them on a daily basis).
I don't know you...you said "hard core gamer nerd" that means something different to me than to you, I guess...hard core gamer nerds I know game 8-12 hours a day, are unhealthy, lack motivation, have no social skills and no job...I assumed that was the same for you (gaming 8-12 hours a day)...yet you've managed to be a productive member of society, therefore making you the exception...like I said, congratulations on that.
Video games in moderation aren't harmful...cocaine in moderation isn't harmful...but both are bad, because they can become an addiction and take over/ruin someone's life...so I won't let my kids play video games nor let them do cocaine for the same reason...the risk just isn't worth it.
You love video games...it's all good man. You do you. You don't have to justify or prove anything to me.
Hey man it sounds like you have a great life, I'm a couple years older than you and grew up playing video games a lot too, Nintendo and Sega were my big ones, Tony Hawk 1 was the last game I really got into when I was younger.
Gaming can be a healthy outlet to blow off some steam or get into electronics like building computers like you said.
There are however a few aspects of today's gaming that I don't consider healthy.
1. Isolationism. Online gaming which rose around the same time that all streaming and smartphone use took off has isolated lots of people in our society today. You can say streaming had the same effect but I don't think there's as many younger people sitting and watching TV or movies as there are playing games, I could be wrong.
2. Gamer identity. I think a lot of people got really into the idea that they could choose their gamer identity and want that to extend to the rest of their lives, this is where a lot of the pronoun BS came from.
3. Unfulfilling skills and effort. There's no doubt that gamers possess a skill set that is developed and specialized that non-gamers don't have. The problem is that the preferred outlet for those skills is rather uninspiring. It's a bit like going to the gym and lifting weights. You get strong, you get good at lifting, you have friends that you lift with, but at the end of the day doing something that harnesses that strength for a purpose besides getting strong is more fulfilling.
4. Streamers. This coincides with "reality TV" and the larger societal shift from consuming and appreciating art to consuming content which is not appreciated in the same way. What's the difference between art and content? The piece's value on repeat viewing or listening. There's probably songs you've listened to 1000 times, but you wouldn't listen to an episode of the pulpmx show twice unless there was some specific information or something was very funny.
What made you learn to play guitar later on in life? It may just be the type of music I'm into but it seems like most local music performers and enjoyers are in their 30s and up. There hasn't really been a big rock and roll movement for a while, probably the folk rock movement of the 2010s and emo/indie before that. Maybe I'm just a middle aged dad and not in the right scene, but I do still find lots of great new music, but culturally rock music is losing its relevancy which sucks imo.
Your 3rd point, the unfulfilling skills and effort was what finally got me to self realize.
I was putting so many hours into this game and I was really good. My buddy and I were just running the servers and making sure we stayed on top. And then near the time I finally quit, I was just questioning why. No one in my real life had any idea of what we were doing. There was no sort of prize or recognition outside of the people we played with, and I was gaining nothing but the ability to sit there and somehow justify grinding at this game in every spare moment of every day with nothing real to show for it. I really did enjoy playing the game, but I turned it off and never went back because I knew I couldn't do it in moderation.
Sometimes I see things that garner a lot of media attention but aren't discussed here, it's interesting getting yalls 2 cents on the matters. Sometimes the responses follow closely with what you hear from the Party's talking heads, I ask questions to try to get deeper thoughts.
You don't have to be worried about me, save your worry for your loved ones.
It's amazing how we can go from Make America Great Again to America has been too Great for too long it's time to make it Miserable Again.
I think it's possible to foster a healthy society where people are motivated to be their best selves without resorting to crushing them with pain and misery.
Well put.
I don’t understand the downvote…but, hey, maybe you’ve got a “down no matter what” following…like I do😆
I see the same tends in music, Funny-thing, go look at what Taylor Swift was playing…the music she was writing and performing when she was a young girl and 1st made the scene at The Bluebird Cafe…it was folkish country music…and it sure didn’t suck like the crap she plays now 🤣
Any-hoooo…
Good morning and “I concur”.
The narrative that the youth all suck is old. The majority have their shit together and are going to do great things. Many of the ones who don't will do even greater things. Some will be complete shit. Sounds like every generation.
I work with them everyday. The future will be fine. If old people will get the fuck out of the way and stop being Karen's every time they don't live their life's the exact way they did.
There are qualities that are probably better about the next generation, and I'm sure some that won't be.
1. I've been online gaming since the late 90s. There's a massive gap between that to smart phones, then to streaming. Maybe I'm lucky I grew up with it? I was largely an introvert as a kid, so I'd stay away from people outside my immediate friends anyway. Now... I just don't like people lol. Sure, I get along every day with a positive attitude and manners to boot, but spending lengthy time in large crowds or with a random assortment of acquaintances? Nah... not interesting.
Kids today have it harder for sure. There's a lot of ways they can bury themselves in gaming/content. When I was young, it wasn't like I could game for 8 hours then pick up my phone, hit the socials and watch videos... It wasn't at all like that. These days, parents need to be very mindful of their children's content consumption.
2. Absolutely not true. Come on. Maybe edge cases with kids who are not mentally stable? Big maybe.
3. Gaming is a hobby. Nothing more, nothing less. Motocross doesn't do anything for me either when I leave the track at the end of the day. it's just another obsession, another outlet, etc. Funny thing, with gaming you would actually have much higher chance of making a career out of it (streaming/content or eSports) over riding a dirtbike. Do I recommend anyone even attempt to pursue either of them? Hell no.
4. Everyone is consuming content from their interests and hobbies daily, so there's a market for it. No, it is not art. Is it overall healthy for society? I don't know. I do not know that I'm glad I grew up in the 90s though. I grew up with the internet (again tons of gaming, even on dial up!) really, so seeing what it has turned into is pretty much a lost cause to me at this point. Everything is extremely manipulative now, and I'm glad I've paid attention through the changes as it makes it very easy for me to "spot a fake" sorta speak. I don't get scammed, I don't get wrapped up in propaganda, I can tell what content is AI generated, etc. I feel bad for those that adopted late (older age) or are younger and consuming a lot of garbage without parental guidance.
In response to your last paragraph... I actually picked up guitar in my teens (amidst my introvert "isolation" portion of my life). I know that wasn't clear in my previous post. I self taught, mostly played metal, went through a few bands in my 20s and early 30s, recorded some music, and played a bunch of fun shows. I still play today, but just acoustic from time to time. I don't have the the interest to take it to that level again (electric guitar, amps, accessories, recording setup, bands, shows, etc.). Once I got back into moto I had to pick one and it was an easy choice.
Metal had an awesome scene in Ventura, CA and to a lesser extent LA, in the 2000s. It died right around the financial crash. It seemed like everyone just stopped going out/showing up. I played a few shows between 2013 and 2017 and they were a shadow of what it was like 10 years prior. The quality of the local bands had actually jumped up massively (I was super impressed), but it didn't matter... Metal has always been niche, but it had that cool scene where big crowds would show up. Now it seems non-existent. I haven't been to the usual spots in about 5 years though, so it could be back, or having a resurgence of sorts... I should probably get out there again.
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