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Official Teaser Trailer
This is the official teaser for the world premiere of Pay Dirt: The Story of Supercross as directed, produced, and co-written by @paultheproducerguy and narrated by Josh Brolin. You can also subscribe to receive news and updates on the nationwide theatrical release set to come out in January 2025 after the 2025 Supercross season kicks off following Anaheim 1.
Longer Trailer
This looks awesome, surprised this is my first time hearing about it.
I'm surprised Feld and MX Sports haven't made social media posts about it. January is a month away and they're not promoting it or if they are, they're doing a poor job of it.
What is it with sound engineers insisting on using the wrong engine to represent the sound of the motorcycles? It's always an 80cc two-stroke or a top-fuel dragster motor. In this case, it sounds like a parallel twin or some kind of slow car at 0:14.
@avidchimp Can explain it.
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Northing has changed...I remember being a kid, watching Terminator 2 and knowing that an XR100 wasn't a 2 stroke and definitely didn't have a 32 speed transmission.
https://youtu.be/6z9qws7M8q8?si=reCqwyE_pOnketGb
Only 235 views on the trailer and it was posted a month ago?
Using both footage from Feld and other media outlets from several seasons of racing so we have to assume this was cleared by all parties involved.
Also that initial shot/snippet of an interview of the guy in jail talking about moto with no real explanation..?
I realize this was just a trailer but it was kind of all over the place tbh.
Very confusing. Paging ML, do you have any more information on this film?
This has pissed me off for so long that I actually decided to look it up one day. Supposedly it's significantly easier and less expensive for sound engineers to just edit in sounds from old audio library's than it use to use the sound from the actual recording of the video since they would have to edit out external sounds etc... What REALLY gets me is when they use a different sound for the exact same motorcycle in two different scenes....
With video editing, sound is 10x more important than video quality. During a race, there are many different sounds happening that it’s almost impossible to isolate just a single bike exhaust note without degrading the quality. In this case it makes more sense to add in higher quality exhaust sound in post editing than to try and edit a pre existing audio from video.
Completely agree. Wouldn't it be nice though if they at least had an accurate library of each make/model of motorcycle? I know it will never happen but i'll keep dreaming.
"Paydirt: The Story of Supercross" was screened at The Newport Beach Film Festival in mid-late October. I had a small part in a film that was screened there as well and saw it on the schedule.
Looks like it’s worth a watch for sure.
Bit of a trivial complaint, considering the potential audience this has the potential to reach, wouldn’t you say?
I just heard out through my phone speaker but I didn’t hear anything too egregious.
How was it and who is that guy they interviewed from prison? (i hope this doesn’t reveal too much)
Michael Goodwin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Thompson#Murders
Some of you seem way too focused on a second and a half of wrong engine sounds used during a scene fade that you're missing just how awesome this looks. Just with the voiceover interviews and the race footage from the trailers, seeing this should be on every moto fan's calendar.
I really hope it goes up on a streaming platform at some point early next year, because we don't usually get documentaries, much less indy documentaries at military base theaters, and it's highly unlikely this will play in Japanese theaters.
The trailer didn't make me want to watch the whole thing, sorry.
The short answer to all of this not short at all, but to summate what's happening more often than not is for a reason. First to speak to the v-twin sound effect in the beginning, that's was a creative choice the producer, or whomever has final say wanted.
Second, to catshot's post, the goal in production is to get the best practical sound you can from the shoot so when you go into post production the editors/sound team can use as much of it as possible. If they are doing it right they will always give a production sound mixer time to roll some "room tone", but this also applies for something like a riding montage where you would just be getting what they call "wild tracks". Going in and having to reproduce what you couldn't get on the day, or is just of terrible quality for whatever reason, is far more laborious and therefore expensive in post.
Most sound designers know enough to look up make and model and find what they need to make it sound right, but the problem with modern four strokes in a single cylinder arrangement is their sound really fights dialogue and music. It just over-powers everything really (which is the problem in the real world as well).
Hope this helps a little, but I don't have a ton of time to get deep in the weeds right now. 🤣
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The Freestyle documentary they released a few years back was pretty good, so I’d bet this is as well.
I assumed it was just going to be uploaded to YouTube
They are probably trying to sell it to a streaming service first. If that doesn’t work it’ll end up on YT.
When are we getting a Supercross Netflix show...?
Supposed to be this year, but Feld decided to allocate those funds to a Monster Jam Netflix Doc
First time hearing about this, the prison shot at the beginning was a little janky, but it looks decent. I mean, they got freaking THANOS to narrate the damn thing, should be legit........right? 🤨
Interesting…. In 1971 the movie “Chrome and Hot Leather”, they did a good job of matching the 2-stroke sound to the Kawasaki’s in the film. Funny how the film industry 53 years later struggles with this. 🤔
Also used footage of Maxime Renaux from MXGP who's never taken part in supercross, let alone AMA SX. Amateur hour.
You might want to watch the trailer with the sound on instead of just reading what some of these guys have to say. They didn't dub Harley sounds over the bikes racing, they used a v-twin sound for about a second and a half during a fade between scenes.
The second trailer (longer one) is muuuuch better imo. Frankly, this looks friggin badass. I really hope they can promote this better because this is the first time theyre really sitting down and explaining the sport where regular people could understand whats going on and why its so badass. Weve been needing something like this for a long time. Something you can point a new fan towards for them to watch that will show the history of the sport, who was involved, and why it has evolved into what it is today, all in one place. Something like this that will be enjoyable for us die hards but will also be a great introduction to the sport for many people is a huuuge opportunity. Cant wait to watch it! When is the last supercross documentary you have watched? I cant remember one.
The Movie/Documentary is 1 hour and 30 minutes long.
Eric Johnson has been working on it along with everyone else for the past couple of years.
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