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Again…you’re attempting…poorly…to cover your lies.“Idiot”? No. Kongol’s isn’t an idiot and was never called one.You, on the other-hand?While we’re here talking about you and your lies...

Again…you’re attempting…poorly…to cover your lies.

“Idiot”? No. Kongol’s isn’t an idiot and was never called one.

You, on the other-hand?

While we’re here talking about you and your lies and your “look at me, the Victim!” pathological bullshit…

Whatever happened to those so-called threats you received in here via messaging? Where’s the truth to that little story…hmmmmmm…pumpkin? 

You 100% know you got caught calling a dude who's expressing fear about getting invaded an idiot drama-queen. A real man would admit it, but you...

You 100% know you got caught calling a dude who's expressing fear about getting invaded an idiot drama-queen. A real man would admit it, but you, nah, you're taking the "panic typing to save face and flip it on Wombat" approach. Fuuuuuucking pathetic.

Again, you're avoiding the fact that you can't own up to being a confirmed liar. 

No worries.

It's like this...from false accusations about lies about non-existent threats to outright getting called out for what I DID NOT CALL SOMEONE.

So, little-man, we are done here. You and your fellow haters can't do anything other than deflect from answering for your own words, misdeeds and intentional misrepresentations

Thus..again..losers. 

So...bye. 👋

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What happened to Greens super shitty post where he called Kongols and idiot drama queen?

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This is the new standard for that lying little hater and his cadre of losers. 

"You may go, now." 😂

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What happened to Greens super shitty post where he called Kongols and idiot drama queen?

PNWMXer wrote:
TeamGreen wrote:

This is the new standard for that lying little hater and his cadre of losers. 

"You may go, now." 😂

I thought it was particularly fitting 😂

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TeamGreen wrote:

This is the new standard for that lying little hater and his cadre of losers. 

"You may go, now." 😂

Every damn time wombobo invades any thread, it's the start of a disruptive pattern of his usual bullshit. 

And ultimately destroying the subject matter of the thread.

 

Every damn time.

 

Look at how he invaded the Laken Riley thread as a perfect example. 

This one as well.

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TeamGreen wrote:
Again, you're avoiding the fact that you can't own up to being a confirmed liar. No worries.It's like this...from false accusations about lies about non-existent threats to...

Again, you're avoiding the fact that you can't own up to being a confirmed liar. 

No worries.

It's like this...from false accusations about lies about non-existent threats to outright getting called out for what I DID NOT CALL SOMEONE.

So, little-man, we are done here. You and your fellow haters can't do anything other than deflect from answering for your own words, misdeeds and intentional misrepresentations

Thus..again..losers. 

So...bye. 👋

See @Cool_Hand_Luke, this is what I'm talking about. Green got caught straight up lying, had his post deleted by the mods (gee, I wonder why?), and is panic typing insults like a guy clearly not trapped in a corner of his own bullshit...

Green: "little hater"
Green: "look at me, the Victim!"
Green: "pathological bullshit"
Green: "pumpkin"
Green: "little man"
Green: "haters"
Green: "losers"

... instead of manning up and admitting he fucked up.

Green, you silly, bro.

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Every damn time wombobo invades any thread, it's the start of a disruptive pattern of his usual bullshit. And ultimately destroying the subject matter of the thread. Every...

Every damn time wombobo invades any thread, it's the start of a disruptive pattern of his usual bullshit. 

And ultimately destroying the subject matter of the thread.

 

Every damn time.

 

Look at how he invaded the Laken Riley thread as a perfect example. 

This one as well.

Green posting, "I can’t believe lefties have the fucking gall to open their fucking mouths or even login on a day like today.", did way more to fuck up that thread by taking the attention away from what happened to that poor woman and making it about liberals than I did calling him out.

Same with this one. It was going great until Green called Kongols an idiot drama-queen, of which I called out for being absolutely pathetic, and he – like he always does – went off the rails resorting to insults because everyone knows (and of which you posted the Plato quote about), the dude that results to hurling endless dribbles of insults is the one that's lost.

Can't make this shit up, folks!

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Irrelevant. Russia has been corrupt as fk for decades, but that wouldn't give anyone the right to cross their borders and murder their people, and I'd...

Irrelevant. Russia has been corrupt as fk for decades, but that wouldn't give anyone the right to cross their borders and murder their people, and I'd want my tax dollars to stop it.

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I don't. We have problems here to address, we have lives here to save. The Ukraine/Russia deal isn't ours. You want to save them I believe...

I don't. We have problems here to address, we have lives here to save. The Ukraine/Russia deal isn't ours. You want to save them I believe they are accepting donations and volunteers. As far as my family, I believe my great grand kids will be paying for the COVID cleanup without adding on the "defense" and rebuilding of Ukraine. Genocides are going on now all over the world, and will continue ad nauseum, yet Ukraine we are spending billions on, do you wonder why? The whole "Russia is bad" narrative is intellectual laziness and not the real and only reason.

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Are you consistent? Like should Israel be on their own, or do nations that hold western values, still have some value to us? It's somewhat okay...

Are you consistent? Like should Israel be on their own, or do nations that hold western values, still have some value to us? It's somewhat okay as long as it's consistent, like we should standby and do nothing while the surrounding muslim nations attack the Jews and destroy our ability to have a friend/presence in the region. 

I say somewhat okay because it's not exactly the Christian thing to do. The sin of Sloth includes Nihilism, standing by while terrible things are happening, having the means to help but choosing not to. From that perspective it's not great, but if you reject the concept of sins, then I suppose it absolves you of the moral duty to help people.

I'll continue to believe that murder/crime as a response to legal action is disgusting and will always oppose it. You are certainly welcome to feel otherwise. It's both the beauty and the grotesqueness of America. 

Israel has nothing to do with a discussion on Ukraine. That would be an entirely different thread/topic and entirely more complicated. We are without any doubt neglecting our own in this nation for the "benefit" - if you can call it that - of Ukraine, so your bullshit comparison of standing by while someone is murdered holds no water. A more proper comparison is giving guns to two people in a fist fight while you step over your own suffocating child. As far as consistency, what is the real reason we are sponsoring this war? Like I stated before countless other genocides are happening/have happened, the USA didn't lift a finger. The USA's sponsorship is the real reason this war, and the killing continues.

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11/21/2024 12:14pm Edited Date/Time 11/21/2024 12:15pm
Spoonguy wrote:
I don't. We have problems here to address, we have lives here to save. The Ukraine/Russia deal isn't ours. You want to save them I believe...

I don't. We have problems here to address, we have lives here to save. The Ukraine/Russia deal isn't ours. You want to save them I believe they are accepting donations and volunteers. As far as my family, I believe my great grand kids will be paying for the COVID cleanup without adding on the "defense" and rebuilding of Ukraine. Genocides are going on now all over the world, and will continue ad nauseum, yet Ukraine we are spending billions on, do you wonder why? The whole "Russia is bad" narrative is intellectual laziness and not the real and only reason.

byke wrote:
Are you consistent? Like should Israel be on their own, or do nations that hold western values, still have some value to us? It's somewhat okay...

Are you consistent? Like should Israel be on their own, or do nations that hold western values, still have some value to us? It's somewhat okay as long as it's consistent, like we should standby and do nothing while the surrounding muslim nations attack the Jews and destroy our ability to have a friend/presence in the region. 

I say somewhat okay because it's not exactly the Christian thing to do. The sin of Sloth includes Nihilism, standing by while terrible things are happening, having the means to help but choosing not to. From that perspective it's not great, but if you reject the concept of sins, then I suppose it absolves you of the moral duty to help people.

I'll continue to believe that murder/crime as a response to legal action is disgusting and will always oppose it. You are certainly welcome to feel otherwise. It's both the beauty and the grotesqueness of America. 

Spoonguy wrote:
Israel has nothing to do with a discussion on Ukraine. That would be an entirely different thread/topic and entirely more complicated. We are without any doubt...

Israel has nothing to do with a discussion on Ukraine. That would be an entirely different thread/topic and entirely more complicated. We are without any doubt neglecting our own in this nation for the "benefit" - if you can call it that - of Ukraine, so your bullshit comparison of standing by while someone is murdered holds no water. A more proper comparison is giving guns to two people in a fist fight while you step over your own suffocating child. As far as consistency, what is the real reason we are sponsoring this war? Like I stated before countless other genocides are happening/have happened, the USA didn't lift a finger. The USA's sponsorship is the real reason this war, and the killing continues.

Consistency is precisely the test for whether or not the reasons we give for something, are the real reasons. It's important because if we're not giving the real reasons, then we're making everything more difficult. Ideologies are important. If we actually have a desire to help protect the sovereignty of a nation, then we don't look for reasons to avoid it. And you are more than welcome to test me on any ideologies, because I will seek consistency as a priority over the things that make me happy. If more people were like this, you'd have more gun rights, because Democrats pledging allegiance to the constitution would support 2a rights. 

And I'm not a fan of pretty much every predominantly muslim nation in the middle east, but I always support their rights to be free from invasion/murder, their sovereignty. I support that for Israel and I support that for Ukraine and I'd support that for Russia/Iran/China/NK, even though they're all shit countries as far as rights are concerned. And I'll tackle that topic head on without trying to deflect, because confidence comes easy being more aligned with ideologies instead of random bits that make me happy. It'd be a world of deceit if it just so happened that we supported everything that made us happy and didn't support everything that made us unhappy, which is what we have and which is why nothing makes sense.

Multiple wrongs don't make a right. I'm sure plenty of crimes weren't investigated in every major city around us, but I won't use that fact to try to get people to stop investigating something. All that would do is make me part of the problem. 

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See @Cool_Hand_Luke, this is what I'm talking about. Green got caught straight up lying, had his post deleted by the mods (gee, I wonder...

See @Cool_Hand_Luke, this is what I'm talking about. Green got caught straight up lying, had his post deleted by the mods (gee, I wonder why?), and is panic typing insults like a guy clearly not trapped in a corner of his own bullshit...

Green: "little hater"
Green: "look at me, the Victim!"
Green: "pathological bullshit"
Green: "pumpkin"
Green: "little man"
Green: "haters"
Green: "losers"

... instead of manning up and admitting he fucked up.

Green, you silly, bro.

Why would he need the mods to delete his post? 

After that we can talk about the rest of your rant.

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MxAddic wrote:

Why would he need the mods to delete his post? 

After that we can talk about the rest of your rant.

This man is definitely familiar with how easy it is to delete a post.

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Back to the subject, it is getting pretty scary right now. 

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Gworm wrote:

Back to the subject, it is getting pretty scary right now. 

Based on what I’m seeing, we’re getting great data on their “hyper-sonic” delivery system and they’re not accomplishing much for the insane expense that it costs per missile. Both sides are gonna try to gain much as they can before the 3rd week of Jan. 

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byke wrote:
Are you consistent? Like should Israel be on their own, or do nations that hold western values, still have some value to us? It's somewhat okay...

Are you consistent? Like should Israel be on their own, or do nations that hold western values, still have some value to us? It's somewhat okay as long as it's consistent, like we should standby and do nothing while the surrounding muslim nations attack the Jews and destroy our ability to have a friend/presence in the region. 

I say somewhat okay because it's not exactly the Christian thing to do. The sin of Sloth includes Nihilism, standing by while terrible things are happening, having the means to help but choosing not to. From that perspective it's not great, but if you reject the concept of sins, then I suppose it absolves you of the moral duty to help people.

I'll continue to believe that murder/crime as a response to legal action is disgusting and will always oppose it. You are certainly welcome to feel otherwise. It's both the beauty and the grotesqueness of America. 

Spoonguy wrote:
Israel has nothing to do with a discussion on Ukraine. That would be an entirely different thread/topic and entirely more complicated. We are without any doubt...

Israel has nothing to do with a discussion on Ukraine. That would be an entirely different thread/topic and entirely more complicated. We are without any doubt neglecting our own in this nation for the "benefit" - if you can call it that - of Ukraine, so your bullshit comparison of standing by while someone is murdered holds no water. A more proper comparison is giving guns to two people in a fist fight while you step over your own suffocating child. As far as consistency, what is the real reason we are sponsoring this war? Like I stated before countless other genocides are happening/have happened, the USA didn't lift a finger. The USA's sponsorship is the real reason this war, and the killing continues.

byke wrote:
Consistency is precisely the test for whether or not the reasons we give for something, are the real reasons. It's important because if we're not giving...

Consistency is precisely the test for whether or not the reasons we give for something, are the real reasons. It's important because if we're not giving the real reasons, then we're making everything more difficult. Ideologies are important. If we actually have a desire to help protect the sovereignty of a nation, then we don't look for reasons to avoid it. And you are more than welcome to test me on any ideologies, because I will seek consistency as a priority over the things that make me happy. If more people were like this, you'd have more gun rights, because Democrats pledging allegiance to the constitution would support 2a rights. 

And I'm not a fan of pretty much every predominantly muslim nation in the middle east, but I always support their rights to be free from invasion/murder, their sovereignty. I support that for Israel and I support that for Ukraine and I'd support that for Russia/Iran/China/NK, even though they're all shit countries as far as rights are concerned. And I'll tackle that topic head on without trying to deflect, because confidence comes easy being more aligned with ideologies instead of random bits that make me happy. It'd be a world of deceit if it just so happened that we supported everything that made us happy and didn't support everything that made us unhappy, which is what we have and which is why nothing makes sense.

Multiple wrongs don't make a right. I'm sure plenty of crimes weren't investigated in every major city around us, but I won't use that fact to try to get people to stop investigating something. All that would do is make me part of the problem. 

Your bluster and extended explanations still do not justify my grand kid's future being mortgaged to keep funding this conflict an ocean and more from our own nation. If we never gave a red cent to this endeavor, Russia would now have more territory for sure, but thousands of people would still be alive and billions of dollars of damages and munitions would have been spared, Europe's economy would be less damaged as well. This war we are funding is not about Ukraine's liberty, indeed they are now basically a colony of the USA indebted as they are by "aid", it is about the USA using the Ukraine conflict as a tool to suppress Europe to maintain it's dominance of the world's political landscape. Wake up byke this war is about empire building and colonialism for the USA as much as it is Russia, not humanitarianism.

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Putin is insanely paranoid. When was the last time the US/EU/NATO country attacked Russia? 

Tuesday.

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byke wrote:

Putin is insanely paranoid. When was the last time the US/EU/NATO country attacked Russia? 

SCR wrote:

Tuesday.

And we have Nukes at their border. And there was that time we bombed their communist neighbor North Korea into rubble killing about 20% of the population. Add to that numerous economic attacks, incursions and intrusions into their politics, and our betrayal of their economy after the fall of the Soviet Union, yes Russia should be concerned. Our foreign policy has not evolved since Dulles.

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Ukraine on Fire (film) - Wikipedia

Has anyone watched this film? It gives a good look at some of the things leading up to the events happening today. It may be from a point of view that many will take offence to here, but the film is worth a watch. Oliver Stone can be a little long winded and boring at times, and is very pro-Russian, so take it with a grain of salt.

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Spoonguy wrote:
Israel has nothing to do with a discussion on Ukraine. That would be an entirely different thread/topic and entirely more complicated. We are without any doubt...

Israel has nothing to do with a discussion on Ukraine. That would be an entirely different thread/topic and entirely more complicated. We are without any doubt neglecting our own in this nation for the "benefit" - if you can call it that - of Ukraine, so your bullshit comparison of standing by while someone is murdered holds no water. A more proper comparison is giving guns to two people in a fist fight while you step over your own suffocating child. As far as consistency, what is the real reason we are sponsoring this war? Like I stated before countless other genocides are happening/have happened, the USA didn't lift a finger. The USA's sponsorship is the real reason this war, and the killing continues.

byke wrote:
Consistency is precisely the test for whether or not the reasons we give for something, are the real reasons. It's important because if we're not giving...

Consistency is precisely the test for whether or not the reasons we give for something, are the real reasons. It's important because if we're not giving the real reasons, then we're making everything more difficult. Ideologies are important. If we actually have a desire to help protect the sovereignty of a nation, then we don't look for reasons to avoid it. And you are more than welcome to test me on any ideologies, because I will seek consistency as a priority over the things that make me happy. If more people were like this, you'd have more gun rights, because Democrats pledging allegiance to the constitution would support 2a rights. 

And I'm not a fan of pretty much every predominantly muslim nation in the middle east, but I always support their rights to be free from invasion/murder, their sovereignty. I support that for Israel and I support that for Ukraine and I'd support that for Russia/Iran/China/NK, even though they're all shit countries as far as rights are concerned. And I'll tackle that topic head on without trying to deflect, because confidence comes easy being more aligned with ideologies instead of random bits that make me happy. It'd be a world of deceit if it just so happened that we supported everything that made us happy and didn't support everything that made us unhappy, which is what we have and which is why nothing makes sense.

Multiple wrongs don't make a right. I'm sure plenty of crimes weren't investigated in every major city around us, but I won't use that fact to try to get people to stop investigating something. All that would do is make me part of the problem. 

Spoonguy wrote:
Your bluster and extended explanations still do not justify my grand kid's future being mortgaged to keep funding this conflict an ocean and more from our...

Your bluster and extended explanations still do not justify my grand kid's future being mortgaged to keep funding this conflict an ocean and more from our own nation. If we never gave a red cent to this endeavor, Russia would now have more territory for sure, but thousands of people would still be alive and billions of dollars of damages and munitions would have been spared, Europe's economy would be less damaged as well. This war we are funding is not about Ukraine's liberty, indeed they are now basically a colony of the USA indebted as they are by "aid", it is about the USA using the Ukraine conflict as a tool to suppress Europe to maintain it's dominance of the world's political landscape. Wake up byke this war is about empire building and colonialism for the USA as much as it is Russia, not humanitarianism.

Like I said, it's somewhat okay as long as there is consistency. When we're not consistent, then some piece of information is either missing, or untrue. There certainly is a point where we can't spend any more money no matter what's happening. To have such high levels of concern for debt, to the point that we would need to stop protecting the sovereignty of a nation that is under attack because they want to be an ally, it would have to be a very high level of concern. Like you'd have to hate every president going back to Bill Clinton. Clinton was the last president that actually changed the trajectory. Everyone else has been an utter pig with spending. So the question remains, are you consistent?

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Gworm wrote:

Back to the subject, it is getting pretty scary right now. 

Elaborate please.

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Gworm wrote:

Back to the subject, it is getting pretty scary right now. 

LungButter wrote:

Elaborate please.

The way the current administration is escalating things, it seems like they are trying to provoke Putin. With him trying out his new missile, and also taking away safeguards in their process to sending a nuke. 

As TeamGreen has said, the new missile may not be as accurate as they thought, but it’s fast, and with nukes, is accuracy as important?

The scariest part, is it seems like neither Biden nor Putin feel like they have much to lose. 

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Putin has been announcing scary nuke things for a while now. At this point he sounds more like a yapping chihuahua. 

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byke wrote:

Putin has been announcing scary nuke things for a while now. At this point he sounds more like a yapping chihuahua. 

I don't necessarily believe so. His statements this morning sounded controlled and measured, and also, he is prepared to negotiate. He may be overconfident in his weapons, but did not sound like a madman. I just hope both sides can dial it down for a couple months.

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byke wrote:

Putin has been announcing scary nuke things for a while now. At this point he sounds more like a yapping chihuahua. 

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I don't necessarily believe so. His statements this morning sounded controlled and measured, and also, he is prepared to negotiate. He may be overconfident in his...

I don't necessarily believe so. His statements this morning sounded controlled and measured, and also, he is prepared to negotiate. He may be overconfident in his weapons, but did not sound like a madman. I just hope both sides can dial it down for a couple months.

He's moved them a couple times and made sure to make public statements about it. He's changed the process a few times and made statements about it. He's held drills and made public statements about it. He's made several public threats to Finland and Sweden which fueled their drive to join NATO. Sure at first it's scary, but the downside of him constantly running his mouth is that now it just sounds like blah blah blah. 

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Remember the little boy who cried wolf?

At the end a wolf did show up. 

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Yeah but remember what caused people to stop caring? 

There are two lesson to be learned in the story. 

Words matter. 

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11/22/2024 10:19am

And the "wolf" wouldn't be nukes in that analogy, the wolf would be the USA.

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That's a pretty sweet arrangement, crossing border and murdering people and the murderers are the victims. That's normally for leftists, to want to hug the crime out of people. 

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Apparently, the thing they fired went Mach 11 according to Ukraine, had 6 mirv`s that separated into six warheads each.

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11/22/2024 11:54am Edited Date/Time 11/22/2024 11:57am

Putin with his long range missiles just flexed and said try me mother effers. Those long range missiles easily could have had a nuke on them, they are capable he chose targets with hardly any damage.  He could wipe out Ukraine in a second.  Don't you think he understands the power struggle/shift from Bidens Admin to Trumps? Embarrassing from our country to be pushing this forward so they can supply arms and keep money laundering. Wake up people. Nato uses US companies for armorment, planes, bandages, you name it. Conflict is good for that sector. But for those of you foolishly believing that the money comes back to the USA are hugely mistaken. Yes it comes back to the usa but only in the form of proits that aren't taxed via local, state, they are taxed federal with incentives which means.  Free money. Open your eyes up

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I dunno, Ukraine keeps killing his guys, destroying his equipment, the world keeps confiscating his yachts. freezing his assets, driving the ruble down to less than a penny. Doesn't seem like much of a flex, unless his strategy is to exhaust his enemies by letting them hump him to death. 

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