2003 cr 250 *need help*

I bought a new FMF pipe for my bike and its not the right one my bike doesn’t have an exhaust flange just stabs right in After researching I learned that the 00-01 didn’t have exhaust flanges same with the 04-05 do I have a different cylinder head on the bike very confused any input helps. IMG 3192 1IMG 3188 3.jpeg?VersionId=p2SYYDggOnh3rR8mIMG 3189 1.png?VersionId=OlCuCyWxcD.UDCmKcge8so2bS9q

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crmx105
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11/1/2024 7:20pm

Does your bike have the electric power valve? From the first pic looks like the 92-01 cylinder?

11/1/2024 7:27pm

It's not a 2002-2007 cylinder, looks like the previous generation Composite Racing Valve (CRV) cylinder...

cylindera medium12101KZ3L10-01 3505
11/1/2024 7:36pm

That’s what I’m confused about could it be a head from a previous year? Vin shows 2003IMG 3195 1

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11/1/2024 7:40pm

looks like you have the older better motor in the newer better chassis. Its one of those good problems. 

 

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11/1/2024 7:42pm

A 2001 head won't fit on a 2003 motor, it's likely somebody fitted a 2001 or earlier motor.

2003 motor...

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2001 motor...

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11/1/2024 7:43pm
crmx105 wrote:

Does your bike have the electric power valve? From the first pic looks like the 92-01 cylinder?

I’m not sure it was my dads bike he bought back in the early 2000s that I acquired when he passed away I knew it was a 03 so I ordered the pipe for it then realized something wasn’t right 

11/1/2024 7:51pm
A 2001 head won't fit on a 2003 motor, it's likely somebody fitted a 2001 or earlier motor.2003 motor...2001 motor...

A 2001 head won't fit on a 2003 motor, it's likely somebody fitted a 2001 or earlier motor.

2003 motor...

image 672.png?VersionId=COx11ShVk7vok2KhxPPl d8

2001 motor...

image 673.png?VersionId=vbatWgXwoMRExLUKbfBINTYKgZ.
IMG 3200 0.jpeg?VersionId=UdszzhkuMPwKbjTLrTY3w8X
11/1/2024 7:58pm
A 2001 head won't fit on a 2003 motor, it's likely somebody fitted a 2001 or earlier motor.2003 motor...2001 motor...

A 2001 head won't fit on a 2003 motor, it's likely somebody fitted a 2001 or earlier motor.

2003 motor...

image 672.png?VersionId=COx11ShVk7vok2KhxPPl d8

2001 motor...

image 673.png?VersionId=vbatWgXwoMRExLUKbfBINTYKgZ.
cyleconger wrote:
IMG 3200 0.jpeg?VersionId=UdszzhkuMPwKbjTLrTY3w8X

That's a 2000 or 2001 frame and motor, your VIN number has been changed, the "5" indicated a 2005 model, 2000 model was "Y" 2001 model was "1"...

image 674.png?VersionId=DWtWEz77

Bike was likely stolen.

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11/1/2024 8:02pm
A 2001 head won't fit on a 2003 motor, it's likely somebody fitted a 2001 or earlier motor.2003 motor...2001 motor...

A 2001 head won't fit on a 2003 motor, it's likely somebody fitted a 2001 or earlier motor.

2003 motor...

image 672.png?VersionId=COx11ShVk7vok2KhxPPl d8

2001 motor...

image 673.png?VersionId=vbatWgXwoMRExLUKbfBINTYKgZ.
cyleconger wrote:
IMG 3200 0.jpeg?VersionId=UdszzhkuMPwKbjTLrTY3w8X
That's a 2000 or 2001 frame and motor, your VIN number has been changed, the "5" indicated a 2005 model, 2000 model was "Y" 2001 model...

That's a 2000 or 2001 frame and motor, your VIN number has been changed, the "5" indicated a 2005 model, 2000 model was "Y" 2001 model was "1"...

image 674.png?VersionId=DWtWEz77

Bike was likely stolen.

Definitely not stolen I was there when my dad bought it  and bike has been registered for the last 20 years 

11/1/2024 8:04pm
cyleconger wrote:
IMG 3200 0.jpeg?VersionId=UdszzhkuMPwKbjTLrTY3w8X
That's a 2000 or 2001 frame and motor, your VIN number has been changed, the "5" indicated a 2005 model, 2000 model was "Y" 2001 model...

That's a 2000 or 2001 frame and motor, your VIN number has been changed, the "5" indicated a 2005 model, 2000 model was "Y" 2001 model was "1"...

image 674.png?VersionId=DWtWEz77

Bike was likely stolen.

cyleconger wrote:

Definitely not stolen I was there when my dad bought it  and bike has been registered for the last 20 years 

Did he buy it new, from a dealer?

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11/1/2024 8:04pm

Sorry to hear about your Dad. Last pic looks like an 01, those cylinder reed motors bark.

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11/1/2024 8:06pm
That's a 2000 or 2001 frame and motor, your VIN number has been changed, the "5" indicated a 2005 model, 2000 model was "Y" 2001 model...

That's a 2000 or 2001 frame and motor, your VIN number has been changed, the "5" indicated a 2005 model, 2000 model was "Y" 2001 model was "1"...

image 674.png?VersionId=DWtWEz77

Bike was likely stolen.

cyleconger wrote:

Definitely not stolen I was there when my dad bought it  and bike has been registered for the last 20 years 

Did he buy it new, from a dealer?

No it was used but it would be hard to believe the guy that sold it to him stole it 

11/1/2024 8:10pm
cyleconger wrote:

Definitely not stolen I was there when my dad bought it  and bike has been registered for the last 20 years 

Did he buy it new, from a dealer?

cyleconger wrote:

No it was used but it would be hard to believe the guy that sold it to him stole it 

IMG 3204
11/1/2024 8:14pm
cyleconger wrote:

Definitely not stolen I was there when my dad bought it  and bike has been registered for the last 20 years 

Did he buy it new, from a dealer?

cyleconger wrote:

No it was used but it would be hard to believe the guy that sold it to him stole it 

You never know what the history was before him., the good new is the statute of limitations on prosecuting receiving stolen property is 3 years.

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11/1/2024 8:16pm

Did he buy it new, from a dealer?

cyleconger wrote:

No it was used but it would be hard to believe the guy that sold it to him stole it 

cyleconger wrote:
IMG 3204

It's a 2001...

s1200 1-3210505225

or a 2000...

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11/1/2024 8:19pm

Did he buy it new, from a dealer?

cyleconger wrote:

No it was used but it would be hard to believe the guy that sold it to him stole it 

You never know what the history was before him., the good new is the statute of limitations on prosecuting receiving stolen property is 3 years.

Wouldn’t it be hard to register a stolen bike? Not that I’m worried about it being stolen at this point but still haha

11/1/2024 8:22pm
cyleconger wrote:

No it was used but it would be hard to believe the guy that sold it to him stole it 

You never know what the history was before him., the good new is the statute of limitations on prosecuting receiving stolen property is 3 years.

cyleconger wrote:

Wouldn’t it be hard to register a stolen bike? Not that I’m worried about it being stolen at this point but still haha

In theory it should be, but people make mistakes or are corruptible!

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11/1/2024 8:24pm

You never know what the history was before him., the good new is the statute of limitations on prosecuting receiving stolen property is 3 years.

cyleconger wrote:

Wouldn’t it be hard to register a stolen bike? Not that I’m worried about it being stolen at this point but still haha

In theory it should be, but people make mistakes or are corruptible!

Any way to figure out if it’s a 00 or 01 ?

11/1/2024 8:26pm
cyleconger wrote:

Wouldn’t it be hard to register a stolen bike? Not that I’m worried about it being stolen at this point but still haha

In theory it should be, but people make mistakes or are corruptible!

cyleconger wrote:

Any way to figure out if it’s a 00 or 01 ?

Does it have an engine number?

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11/1/2024 8:42pm
A 2001 head won't fit on a 2003 motor, it's likely somebody fitted a 2001 or earlier motor.2003 motor...2001 motor...

A 2001 head won't fit on a 2003 motor, it's likely somebody fitted a 2001 or earlier motor.

2003 motor...

image 672.png?VersionId=COx11ShVk7vok2KhxPPl d8

2001 motor...

image 673.png?VersionId=vbatWgXwoMRExLUKbfBINTYKgZ.
cyleconger wrote:
IMG 3200 0.jpeg?VersionId=UdszzhkuMPwKbjTLrTY3w8X
That's a 2000 or 2001 frame and motor, your VIN number has been changed, the "5" indicated a 2005 model, 2000 model was "Y" 2001 model...

That's a 2000 or 2001 frame and motor, your VIN number has been changed, the "5" indicated a 2005 model, 2000 model was "Y" 2001 model was "1"...

image 674.png?VersionId=DWtWEz77

Bike was likely stolen.

Maybe I'm counting wrong, but it looks like the 10th digit is the "1" after the "5", making it a 2001 model?

 

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11/1/2024 8:45pm
cyleconger wrote:
IMG 3200 0.jpeg?VersionId=UdszzhkuMPwKbjTLrTY3w8X
That's a 2000 or 2001 frame and motor, your VIN number has been changed, the "5" indicated a 2005 model, 2000 model was "Y" 2001 model...

That's a 2000 or 2001 frame and motor, your VIN number has been changed, the "5" indicated a 2005 model, 2000 model was "Y" 2001 model was "1"...

image 674.png?VersionId=DWtWEz77

Bike was likely stolen.

Maybe I'm counting wrong, but it looks like the 10th digit is the "1" after the "5", making it a 2001 model?

 

The VIN photo cut off the first 3 characters "JH2", 2001 VIN should be...

JH2ME0331M300001

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11/1/2024 8:48pm
cyleconger wrote:

Wouldn’t it be hard to register a stolen bike? Not that I’m worried about it being stolen at this point but still haha

In theory it should be, but people make mistakes or are corruptible!

cyleconger wrote:

Any way to figure out if it’s a 00 or 01 ?

They had different carbs...

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but it may have been replaced.

The steering stem nut...

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was steel in 2000...

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and aluminum in 2001...

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11/1/2024 8:51pm
That's a 2000 or 2001 frame and motor, your VIN number has been changed, the "5" indicated a 2005 model, 2000 model was "Y" 2001 model...

That's a 2000 or 2001 frame and motor, your VIN number has been changed, the "5" indicated a 2005 model, 2000 model was "Y" 2001 model was "1"...

image 674.png?VersionId=DWtWEz77

Bike was likely stolen.

Maybe I'm counting wrong, but it looks like the 10th digit is the "1" after the "5", making it a 2001 model?

 

The VIN photo cut off the first 3 characters "JH2", 2001 VIN should be...

JH2ME0331M300001

I realize that, but it's supposed to be a 17 digit VIN, right?

So, counting backwards to the 10th digit - 3, 0, 0, 2, 1, 3, M, 1  ??

Your bolded digit is the 9th one and it only has 16 digits total (and you left out the 5).

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11/1/2024 9:00pm

Maybe I'm counting wrong, but it looks like the 10th digit is the "1" after the "5", making it a 2001 model?

 

The VIN photo cut off the first 3 characters "JH2", 2001 VIN should be...

JH2ME0331M300001

I realize that, but it's supposed to be a 17 digit VIN, right?So, counting backwards to the 10th digit - 3, 0, 0, 2, 1, 3...

I realize that, but it's supposed to be a 17 digit VIN, right?

So, counting backwards to the 10th digit - 3, 0, 0, 2, 1, 3, M, 1  ??

Your bolded digit is the 9th one and it only has 16 digits total (and you left out the 5).

IMG 3206
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11/1/2024 9:03pm

The VIN photo cut off the first 3 characters "JH2", 2001 VIN should be...

JH2ME0331M300001

I realize that, but it's supposed to be a 17 digit VIN, right?So, counting backwards to the 10th digit - 3, 0, 0, 2, 1, 3...

I realize that, but it's supposed to be a 17 digit VIN, right?

So, counting backwards to the 10th digit - 3, 0, 0, 2, 1, 3, M, 1  ??

Your bolded digit is the 9th one and it only has 16 digits total (and you left out the 5).

cyleconger wrote:
IMG 3206

Count backwards from the 17th digit at the end (3) to the 10th digit (1).

It's a 2001 model.

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11/1/2024 9:05pm

Maybe I'm counting wrong, but it looks like the 10th digit is the "1" after the "5", making it a 2001 model?

 

The VIN photo cut off the first 3 characters "JH2", 2001 VIN should be...

JH2ME0331M300001

I realize that, but it's supposed to be a 17 digit VIN, right?So, counting backwards to the 10th digit - 3, 0, 0, 2, 1, 3...

I realize that, but it's supposed to be a 17 digit VIN, right?

So, counting backwards to the 10th digit - 3, 0, 0, 2, 1, 3, M, 1  ??

Your bolded digit is the 9th one and it only has 16 digits total (and you left out the 5).

I think you're right, the only list of US CR250 frame VINs I could find were...

2000    JH2ME033YM200001
2001    JH2ME0331M300001
2002    JH2ME0332M400001 - JH2ME0332M499999
2003    JH2ME0333M500001 - JH2ME0333M599999

They are missing a character!

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11/1/2024 9:13pm

The VIN photo cut off the first 3 characters "JH2", 2001 VIN should be...

JH2ME0331M300001

I realize that, but it's supposed to be a 17 digit VIN, right?So, counting backwards to the 10th digit - 3, 0, 0, 2, 1, 3...

I realize that, but it's supposed to be a 17 digit VIN, right?

So, counting backwards to the 10th digit - 3, 0, 0, 2, 1, 3, M, 1  ??

Your bolded digit is the 9th one and it only has 16 digits total (and you left out the 5).

I think you're right, the only list of US CR250 frame VINs I could find were...

2000    JH2ME033YM200001
2001    JH2ME0331M300001
2002    JH2ME0332M400001 - JH2ME0332M499999
2003    JH2ME0333M500001 - JH2ME0333M599999

They are missing a character!

They are probably leaving out the 9th character, which is randomly selected to make the VIN unique.

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11/2/2024 6:53am

It has the mikuni carb and if anything thats the first part i would change to an airstryker so its probably an 01

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11/2/2024 7:54am
J-roc wrote:

It has the mikuni carb and if anything thats the first part i would change to an airstryker so its probably an 01

What’s wrong with the mikuni carb I pulled it and cleaned it everything seemed to be working properly I was shocked at how clean it was after sitting with old gas for so long

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11/2/2024 8:04am
J-roc wrote:

It has the mikuni carb and if anything thats the first part i would change to an airstryker so its probably an 01

cyleconger wrote:
What’s wrong with the mikuni carb I pulled it and cleaned it everything seemed to be working properly I was shocked at how clean it was...

What’s wrong with the mikuni carb I pulled it and cleaned it everything seemed to be working properly I was shocked at how clean it was after sitting with old gas for so long

There's nothing inherently "wrong" with the Mikuni, it just tends to be more finicky to jet and sensitive to weather changes (temp, humidity, etc). The keihin is more "jet it and forget it", but in my experience it induces more of a mid-range hit in the power, where the Mikuni is usually smoother and more linear in its delivery.

Since the bike is obviously new to you, I would run what's on there and decide if it works for you.

As for being clean, that's usually due to the premix. It doesn't tend to gum/varnish like straight gas (and using non-ethanol gas helps greatly with that issue).

Good luck and enjoy. 👍

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