KTM 350 just got out horsepowered, suspended and raced

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Adam. No dis here. If you re-read that you may see that I'm pointing out both sides of the story. I'm not really saying the bike...
Adam. No dis here. If you re-read that you may see that I'm pointing out both sides of the story. I'm not really saying the bike is under powered. Actually, I'm only paraphrasing what the "haters" are saying in regards to the power. Looking at the big picture, maybe Ryan Dungey needs to take the KTM for a few laps. He seems to be the man right now. Then we would know whether the bike is the problem. Honestly, kudos to KTM for having the balls to go down the road less travelled. I actually owned an 03 525SX and absolutely HATED IT! Worst bike I ever owned.Awesome power but that was it. Wouldn't turn,suspension sucked,couldn't slip the clutch more than twice and it started to overheat. Absolutely would NEVER own one again. Still, I support KTM's approach. They are less concerned with the bottom line than the Big Four. Look at the model line-up they have. They are investing in the sport.
KTM for having the balls to go down the road less travelled.

KTM has no other choice to go down any other road
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Wake me up when we get to the part where it's DC's fault.





Hi Davey!

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goride2 ...guyb, a man of his word (and click) said this man would be banned for life. the rules hop around here like me taking a...
goride2 ...guyb, a man of his word (and click) said this man would be banned for life.

the rules hop around here like me taking a shower.
Nothin left to be said on this subject til next race. One race did not make it the best bike ever and one race did not make it the worst.

But Bobby's last line make me lol.
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You make a valid point adam. Their bikes probably have come a long way. I think MXA picking it as the Bike Of The Year says it all. ( EZ guys lets not start a war over THAT. Its just to make a point) Having said that, it was an INCREDIBLY bad experience owning that bike and I just won't own another. Because they're not the bike for ME. Doesn't mean they don't have a place in the market. Myself, I'm going back to 2-strokes. Have a 500AF in the works because the old steel frame is 1989 at its finest and this is 2010. Also have a 93CR250 I bought for nostalgia and just LOVE the motor. Have 07 450 RMZ forks on it (don't ask) and will make the maiden voyage on it this weekend in its present form. Booyah! I'm old and I only ride for fun. Don't even race. The 4-stroke revolution is over for me. (Again, lets not start a war guys. Just my take on things.)

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The power is not the problem.... Why is it so hard for everyone to grasp that he simply had an off day. Everyone is blowing this...
The power is not the problem.... Why is it so hard for everyone to grasp that he simply had an off day. Everyone is blowing this thing out of porportion.
Say's the guy trying to sell a KTM in his signature

Ha ha ha fuckin classic
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sxf138 wrote:
The power is not the problem.... Why is it so hard for everyone to grasp that he simply had an off day. Everyone is blowing this...
The power is not the problem.... Why is it so hard for everyone to grasp that he simply had an off day. Everyone is blowing this thing out of porportion.
500guy wrote:
Say's the guy trying to sell a KTM in his signature

Ha ha ha fuckin classic
500guy have you even ridden a ktm because i have and power isnt the problem there actually is no problem with ktm or the 350 with the guy riding it maybe but not with the bike
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adamdf 6/14/2010 7:58pm
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You make a valid point adam. Their bikes probably have come a long way. I think MXA picking it as the Bike Of The Year says...
You make a valid point adam. Their bikes probably have come a long way. I think MXA picking it as the Bike Of The Year says it all. ( EZ guys lets not start a war over THAT. Its just to make a point) Having said that, it was an INCREDIBLY bad experience owning that bike and I just won't own another. Because they're not the bike for ME. Doesn't mean they don't have a place in the market. Myself, I'm going back to 2-strokes. Have a 500AF in the works because the old steel frame is 1989 at its finest and this is 2010. Also have a 93CR250 I bought for nostalgia and just LOVE the motor. Have 07 450 RMZ forks on it (don't ask) and will make the maiden voyage on it this weekend in its present form. Booyah! I'm old and I only ride for fun. Don't even race. The 4-stroke revolution is over for me. (Again, lets not start a war guys. Just my take on things.)
4 stroke revolution? Yeah i have been getting the 2 stroke itch myself, seriously considering a 2011 KTM 250 SX or 150SX!...love my kawi 250F though so its going to be a tough choice....

I owned a KTM in 2008 and the quality was second to none so i won't mind going back, if i do..
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Adam if you are goin for all out horsepower in a 2-stroke, sounds like the KTM 250 is the way to go. Word is that dealers can't keep them in stock. An incredibly popular machine. The 2-strokes are just more fun to ride. Maybe the 4's are easier to go fast on, but not as much fun. Want a thrill? Go charging into a big sandy left-hand berm on a 500 and pull the trigger . No thumper can match that kind of ride. Please feel free to be pointed EXACTLY in the direction you want to go and be sure it doesn't include trees. I'm out, been a 19 hour day. Cheers lads!
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sxf138 6/14/2010 8:30pm
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sxf138 wrote:
The power is not the problem.... Why is it so hard for everyone to grasp that he simply had an off day. Everyone is blowing this...
The power is not the problem.... Why is it so hard for everyone to grasp that he simply had an off day. Everyone is blowing this thing out of porportion.
500guy wrote:
Say's the guy trying to sell a KTM in his signature

Ha ha ha fuckin classic
First off its brand new, secondly i broke my femur three months ago and still have a long road ahead of me, so why keep it if it is brand new. By the time i am riding again we will be riding the 11 bikes. Don't judge
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BobbyM 6/14/2010 8:35pm
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sxf138 wrote:
The power is not the problem.... Why is it so hard for everyone to grasp that he simply had an off day. Everyone is blowing this...
The power is not the problem.... Why is it so hard for everyone to grasp that he simply had an off day. Everyone is blowing this thing out of porportion.
500guy wrote:
Say's the guy trying to sell a KTM in his signature

Ha ha ha fuckin classic
nadeauracing229 wrote:
500guy have you even ridden a ktm because i have and power isnt the problem there actually is no problem with ktm or the 350 with...
500guy have you even ridden a ktm because i have and power isnt the problem there actually is no problem with ktm or the 350 with the guy riding it maybe but not with the bike
no brainless...jay has never ever ridden a KTM, all they had were horses back when jay rode...or rides now.
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500guy 6/14/2010 8:37pm
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sxf138 wrote:
The power is not the problem.... Why is it so hard for everyone to grasp that he simply had an off day. Everyone is blowing this...
The power is not the problem.... Why is it so hard for everyone to grasp that he simply had an off day. Everyone is blowing this thing out of porportion.
500guy wrote:
Say's the guy trying to sell a KTM in his signature

Ha ha ha fuckin classic
sxf138 wrote:
First off its brand new, secondly i broke my femur three months ago and still have a long road ahead of me, so why keep it...
First off its brand new, secondly i broke my femur three months ago and still have a long road ahead of me, so why keep it if it is brand new. By the time i am riding again we will be riding the 11 bikes. Don't judge
Sorry you got hurt.

Don't start on the judge me bullshit, I judged the bike and you went off judging me.
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jasonv43 6/14/2010 10:31pm
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Wake me up when we get to the part where it's DC's fault.





Hi Davey!

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Adam. No dis here. If you re-read that you may see that I'm pointing out both sides of the story. I'm not really saying the bike...
Adam. No dis here. If you re-read that you may see that I'm pointing out both sides of the story. I'm not really saying the bike is under powered. Actually, I'm only paraphrasing what the "haters" are saying in regards to the power. Looking at the big picture, maybe Ryan Dungey needs to take the KTM for a few laps. He seems to be the man right now. Then we would know whether the bike is the problem. Honestly, kudos to KTM for having the balls to go down the road less travelled. I actually owned an 03 525SX and absolutely HATED IT! Worst bike I ever owned.Awesome power but that was it. Wouldn't turn,suspension sucked,couldn't slip the clutch more than twice and it started to overheat. Absolutely would NEVER own one again. Still, I support KTM's approach. They are less concerned with the bottom line than the Big Four. Look at the model line-up they have. They are investing in the sport.
BobbyM wrote:
KTM for having the balls to go down the road less travelled.

KTM has no other choice to go down any other road
Why would they have no other choice? What makes you think that? Because of their market share or their technical knowledge?

Please explain
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500guy wrote:
Say's the guy trying to sell a KTM in his signature

Ha ha ha fuckin classic
nadeauracing229 wrote:
500guy have you even ridden a ktm because i have and power isnt the problem there actually is no problem with ktm or the 350 with...
500guy have you even ridden a ktm because i have and power isnt the problem there actually is no problem with ktm or the 350 with the guy riding it maybe but not with the bike
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no brainless...jay has never ever ridden a KTM, all they had were horses back when jay rode...or rides now.
The new ktms are totally differnt thats what i meant Wink
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Amazing this thread. The other day I was practicing with my new CRF450, and this S.O.B on a SXF250 (without linkage) from 08 passed me easily...

Shouldn't happen?

99,9% of us are worse less on the track meaning bike means shit, the rest 0,01% who actually notice the difference have people helping them out, just like when the people managed to fix Stewarts KX125 to such a high standard that he managed to pass ALL the 250Fs during 02, 03, 04, or how they managed to fix RCs CR250 that made him go 24-0 against 450Fs...

But I guess we need something to talk about? Smile
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I agree with the point you are trying to make MR sweden
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I havent ridden the 350 yet, none of us have, but i'm willing to bet that thing turns better than any 450 out there....I say Mike...
I havent ridden the 350 yet, none of us have, but i'm willing to bet that thing turns better than any 450 out there....I say Mike had a bad day, plain and simple..
I rode the 350 at the KTM press presentation in Spain (Europe, for people wondering where Spain is...). This thing is so good in bone stock version, can't imagine how it is with factory treatment. But it is the bike i'd like to have in my basement. As for Mike, his problem is more mental than mechanical, i guess. Just my 2 cents.

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The Doc knocks it out of the park! Basically, it comes down to the rider,no matter the level of talent. I've been beaten by guys on 125's while on a 500. Cuz I'm old, I'm slow and I suck. Still love the big bore though and not giving it up. To be a winner you just have to go faster than everyone else. Machinery not withstanding. You want to beat a thumper when you are on a 2-stroke? Twist the damn throttle harder and leave it on longer! It ain't rocket science. At the pro level that will start to be a little less relevant but for the rest of us...
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The Doc knocks it out of the park! Basically, it comes down to the rider,no matter the level of talent. I've been beaten by guys on...
The Doc knocks it out of the park! Basically, it comes down to the rider,no matter the level of talent. I've been beaten by guys on 125's while on a 500. Cuz I'm old, I'm slow and I suck. Still love the big bore though and not giving it up. To be a winner you just have to go faster than everyone else. Machinery not withstanding. You want to beat a thumper when you are on a 2-stroke? Twist the damn throttle harder and leave it on longer! It ain't rocket science. At the pro level that will start to be a little less relevant but for the rest of us...
Exactly. Dosnt everyone remember Stewart on a 125 whoopin the 250fs.. It's 80% rider and 20% bike.
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sharkey 6/15/2010 9:01am
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maybe the only places that bike might lack power might be like a tracks like washougal with that big uphill pull. i think anyone would see a advantage there
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Looks like this bad boy is about to slip off the radar screen into anonymity. C'mon guys lets whip this old nag RIGHT to the gate of the glue factory and see if we can come up with 9 MORE pages of useless bickering and blithering mindless point/ counter-pointing. Anyone game? Lol
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Looks like this bad boy is about to slip off the radar screen into anonymity. C'mon guys lets whip this old nag RIGHT to the gate...
Looks like this bad boy is about to slip off the radar screen into anonymity. C'mon guys lets whip this old nag RIGHT to the gate of the glue factory and see if we can come up with 9 MORE pages of useless bickering and blithering mindless point/ counter-pointing. Anyone game? Lol
Ha ha

KTM should be glad they got a good bit of support here.
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The Doc knocks it out of the park! Basically, it comes down to the rider,no matter the level of talent. I've been beaten by guys on...
The Doc knocks it out of the park! Basically, it comes down to the rider,no matter the level of talent. I've been beaten by guys on 125's while on a 500. Cuz I'm old, I'm slow and I suck. Still love the big bore though and not giving it up. To be a winner you just have to go faster than everyone else. Machinery not withstanding. You want to beat a thumper when you are on a 2-stroke? Twist the damn throttle harder and leave it on longer! It ain't rocket science. At the pro level that will start to be a little less relevant but for the rest of us...
Throttle 2 The Throttle wrote:
Exactly. Dosnt everyone remember Stewart on a 125 whoopin the 250fs.. It's 80% rider and 20% bike.
In Bubbas case, it would be 90% rider and 10% bike...Laughing

And...I can promise you, Mike would LOVE to be on that Suzuki right now. I'm gonna have to corner Goose at Washougal on Friday about that story...Wink
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Looks like this bad boy is about to slip off the radar screen into anonymity. C'mon guys lets whip this old nag RIGHT to the gate...
Looks like this bad boy is about to slip off the radar screen into anonymity. C'mon guys lets whip this old nag RIGHT to the gate of the glue factory and see if we can come up with 9 MORE pages of useless bickering and blithering mindless point/ counter-pointing. Anyone game? Lol
500guy wrote:
Ha ha

KTM should be glad they got a good bit of support here.
You have idiocity of 500 guys in you.
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Time will tell, as KTM is always looking to improve their bikes to suit the needs of the riders. Some people always think when someone approaches things from a different angle it is wrong (I call it narrow minded). Ofcourse when their product is still in it's 'childhood years' failures can happen. But from an engineering point of view it is a step in the right direction. You also have to consider the motives of KTM to develop a 350cc motorcycle. They still stand. Of course narrow minded people will jump on any situation to critisize this new concept.

You have to remember, only about 1% of all motocrossers ride professionally. And of those 1% only a very few guys can ride a 450 to it's full potentional for a full moto. So because 99% of all motocross riders are amateurs they still produce en develop two-strokes (which is keeping the sport alive for a whole lot of individuals) and they have an option for a 350 and a 450. It think it will be only a matter of time before KTM will have the biggest market share in the motocross market.

No, I do not have stocks from KTM and I do not own or want to sell a KTM. I ride a Suzuki RM250.

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