23 ktm 350sxf smoking out vent tube

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My 23 350sxf has 31hrs on it. I just noticed the other day it smokes some out of the valve cover breather tube. Anyone else had this problem? 

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9/3/2024 8:52pm

You might just be a little over full on oil. How do you measure your oil on your services? Sight glass or measure it out and pour? Always best to measure out the CC’s and pour in especially on KTM/HSQ/GG. 

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9/3/2024 8:58pm

I measure it out.  1100cc. It does cover all of the sight glass I've noticed which is odd to me. My 2020 350 didn't do that

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9/3/2024 9:03pm

I use 1,000cc when doing oil and filter. I only do 900cc when not doing the filter. You’re always going to have 100cc or so of residual oil left in the motor. Is it just a little hazy or is it a cloud coming out of that thing like the dudes van that parks in the back of the pits? 

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9/3/2024 9:14pm

Gotcha. I'll change it and see if it helps. It's just a little hazy. Starts and runs fine

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477nova wrote:

Gotcha. I'll change it and see if it helps. It's just a little hazy. Starts and runs fine

Go off of the sight glass, it is there for a reason. As you've figured out the hard way, measuring a precise amount of oil has caused you to overfill. You're never going to drain all of the old oil out or even precise amount each time. 

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9/4/2024 7:43am Edited Date/Time 9/4/2024 7:45am

Mine did that when I would put in the recommended 1L of oil.  I started dropping down to 900cc of oil and that stopped it and the oil level is in the middle of the site glass.  The problem I found out recently is that the manual tells you not to remove the 3rd oil plug that drains an additional 100cc of oil out of the case.  So you're overfilled when you put the recommended amount in the case. They corrected this mistake on later copies of the manual.  There's another thread on here about it.

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/tech-helprace-shop/23-ktm-350-sxf-oil-change-drain-bolt-question

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9/4/2024 4:51pm

or you could be like me, 16 250sxf and 3 out of the 4 oil jets to the cam lobes were plugged causing the cams to get nice and hot. doesnt hurt to pull the tank, plug, and valve cover and just crank it with the starter to verify the cam lobes are getting oil.

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9/13/2024 4:15pm

Well, drained oil and refilled by the sight glass level. Still smoke out the vent tube. Pulled off the valve cover and noticed the cams are dry and have some wear marks. Has anyone had oiling or oil pump issues with the 23up bikes?

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With the cover off cycle the motor holding the stop button and see if oil is making it to the cams thru the oil nozzles to insure oil pump is working
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9/13/2024 5:12pm

I tried that and no oil was coming out. Is there anyway to check the oil pressure on these?

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9/13/2024 5:16pm Edited Date/Time 9/13/2024 5:17pm
You need to check the pump gears behind clutch basket
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Factor E wrote:
You need to check the pump gears behind clutch basket

or he has gotten contaminates in his oil and the jets got plugged. it doesnt take a lot to plug them. if the oil level goes down in the sight glass when pumping hes getting oil

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9/13/2024 7:35pm
Factor E wrote:
You need to check the pump gears behind clutch basket
Marty1028 wrote:
or he has gotten contaminates in his oil and the jets got plugged. it doesnt take a lot to plug them. if the oil level goes...

or he has gotten contaminates in his oil and the jets got plugged. it doesnt take a lot to plug them. if the oil level goes down in the sight glass when pumping hes getting oil

What is the best way to clean out the jets? Oil pump gear looks fine. 

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Slip small hose over and blow compressed air or use welding tip cleaner to reem out You can unscrew them out to clean
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Factor E wrote:
You need to check the pump gears behind clutch basket
Marty1028 wrote:
or he has gotten contaminates in his oil and the jets got plugged. it doesnt take a lot to plug them. if the oil level goes...

or he has gotten contaminates in his oil and the jets got plugged. it doesnt take a lot to plug them. if the oil level goes down in the sight glass when pumping hes getting oil

477nova wrote:

What is the best way to clean out the jets? Oil pump gear looks fine. 

its shitty but you have to pull the head and take the valves and springs out. you can get them out but you will never get them back in because the valve spring is in the way. once they are out they are equivalent to carb jets. hold them to the light and you should see through them. personally since this is an engine jet i just replace them. but ultrasonic/carbclean/wire will do the job. 

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Marty1028 wrote:
or he has gotten contaminates in his oil and the jets got plugged. it doesnt take a lot to plug them. if the oil level goes...

or he has gotten contaminates in his oil and the jets got plugged. it doesnt take a lot to plug them. if the oil level goes down in the sight glass when pumping hes getting oil

477nova wrote:

What is the best way to clean out the jets? Oil pump gear looks fine. 

Marty1028 wrote:
its shitty but you have to pull the head and take the valves and springs out. you can get them out but you will never get...

its shitty but you have to pull the head and take the valves and springs out. you can get them out but you will never get them back in because the valve spring is in the way. once they are out they are equivalent to carb jets. hold them to the light and you should see through them. personally since this is an engine jet i just replace them. but ultrasonic/carbclean/wire will do the job. 

also before you even do this did you hold the starter for at least 15-25 seconds to build enough oil pressure for them to squirt out? these bikes dont have a whole lot of oil pressure at idle. its like 5psi at idle and 25-30 at limiter, says so in the manual. 

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9/14/2024 7:06am

I cranked it for around 20 seconds still no oil. This bike doesn't have the removable oil jets either so I will probably have to tear it down

9/14/2024 9:53am

Don't know if you figured this out, but I had something similiar once on my 250 Sxf.  Turns out I had put straight anti freeze in when I thought it was already mixed.  Changed your coolant lately?

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9/21/2024 7:23am

So I pulled the engine apart and see some wear on the cams and journals. The oiler orifices are all clear. Only thing I can think of is replace oil pump and try that. Seems like it should have lasted more than 30hrs. Anyone have specs on oil pump gear clearances?

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