Mx Sports takes Slowie Films Media pass.

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Why do folks get bent over thumbs up or down? It's stupid. Its a motorcycle race. why does anyone care who "slowie" is?

No, he shouldn't get a media pass, hes a dumbass media wanna-be filming antics. Why isnt the shenanigan's of the nightlife in the pits at a nascar race going viral?

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Slowie never had a media pass maybe? Cant take what he didnt have. Its "they're" race series, why cant you enjoy it? Sorry glen helen

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bens 152 wrote:
Man people get too wound up over this stuff. Pitchforks out for every side. Why can’t we let people party and get wild without everything going...

Man people get too wound up over this stuff. Pitchforks out for every side. Why can’t we let people party and get wild without everything going on camera and YT/IG. 

Because so many people define their life and worth to likes or views.  It's even bad here with complaints about downvotes.  

The like/dislike button is stupid to have on this site, but it must give Vital more "engagement" and inflates the site numbers.

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bens 152 wrote:
Man people get too wound up over this stuff. Pitchforks out for every side. Why can’t we let people party and get wild without everything going...

Man people get too wound up over this stuff. Pitchforks out for every side. Why can’t we let people party and get wild without everything going on camera and YT/IG. 

Because so many people define their life and worth to likes or views.  It's even bad here with complaints about downvotes.  The like/dislike button is stupid...

Because so many people define their life and worth to likes or views.  It's even bad here with complaints about downvotes.  

The like/dislike button is stupid to have on this site, but it must give Vital more "engagement" and inflates the site numbers.

There's research by serious scholars pointing to the terrible influence the introduction of the like button has had on society, politics, and people's mental health. The internet - especially social media - is not the benign source for good all the 90's internet evangelists thought it would be. 

 

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joshd wrote:
Fair enough. He has a video on his page explain why. Basically they said he showed too much partying and represented the sport in a bad...

Fair enough. He has a video on his page explain why. Basically they said he showed too much partying and represented the sport in a bad light. 

He did have a girl flash him with her bra on and put it on his page. It’s not my style but I respect his right to do it. 

aeffertz wrote:
Where’s this video?

Where’s this video?

Rickyisms wrote:

Haven’t had the chance to watch it yet, but I think this is it. 

https://youtu.be/uEEGai2IwV0?si=HCmMJm3pvseZc5Xu

So I’m not burning up anymore brain cells than I already did. Does he ever say why he was black listed? I have saw a few IG reels of his that were really good, but that also is my attention span 15-30 seconds. 

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Checked with DC, and he says he never actually had a media pass, as he doesn't represent a media outlet.He asked for one mid-way through LL...

Checked with DC, and he says he never actually had a media pass, as he doesn't represent a media outlet.

He asked for one mid-way through LL, and they did deny it. Simply put, insurance issues are becoming huge for the races and a filmer focusing on people riding through flaming hoops, crashing pit bikes drunk, etc is an issue for the promoters and series as they battle these issues from a legal standpoint. Welcome to modern-day America folks.

If people don't understand how this is a liability that can effect our ability to hold racing events, I'm sorry, but it's a serious problem.

I've seen a higher amount than usual of filmers and photographers complaining the past couple years of not getting approved for media credentials at events. It's quite simple, work with an accredited media outlet. Just because you can have a big IG following doesn't mean you're media in the eyes of those who hand out the access.

One last add-on I'll edit in here...and this is no offense to Slowie as I do get entertainment from his content. If you build a following that is primarily from crash videos, crazy partying, and overall chaos. Then you will struggle to be taken seriously at a certain level and that's fine. If that's the route you choose, then you live with the consequences of it. There are positives and negatives to all decisions. If you want to be taken seriously from a professional level, then sometimes you have to adjust accordingly. There's nothing wrong with the chaos path, look at the living Buttery Films (Conner) has made. It works, but you also don't see him trying to get press passes and serious filming rolls. He owns his brand/image and it works.

Great response! And does that buttery guy really do well? Like 7 figures well? If so I need to party more and have young girls that aren’t that good looking at my house asap. (Well not saying I don’t get the ugly girls. They just never are on film.)

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Gmyersdork wrote:

Slowie never had a media pass maybe? Cant take what he didnt have. Its "they're" race series, why cant you enjoy it? Sorry glen helen

They’re or their. Hmmmm

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Eh, i wouldn't give a him a credential either. But....He is just showing what goes on at night in the camping area. Sounds like that is...

Eh, i wouldn't give a him a credential either. But....

He is just showing what goes on at night in the camping area. Sounds like that is the real problem. DC and friends do not want it exposed because of higher insurance premiums. Well...then spend more money on security to clamp down  on it ooorrrrrr....dont allow camping and/or alcohol.

Here's the High Point video that this slowie guy(I've never heard of him before today, not my style) references that Davey and his sister do not like.

aeffertz wrote:
[quote]Well...then spend more money on security to clamp down  on it ooorrrrrr....dont allow camping and/or alcohol.[/quote]Great idea! Let’s add more restrictions and take away things from...

Well...then spend more money on security to clamp down  on it ooorrrrrr....dont allow camping and/or alcohol.


Great idea! Let’s add more restrictions and take away things from all the fans at the race so Tom, Dick and Harry with a camera can get special pass with extra access to a few other areas…

 No thanks. 

I remember back in the day before I was of age going to Broome tioga they didn’t allow any booze. Being as I had an alcoholic dad he put the beers behind the hub caps in the wheels on the truck and taped a couple 30 packs under the trailer. Two of which didn’t make it. 

It’s not really a horrible rule to have on paper “no alcohol”. Everyone is going to find a way around it but also at the end of the day the track skates away from some liability. 

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Was Slowie Films the victim of unwarranted discrimination, or was the videographer doing lines off a hooker's ass in clear view of the TV cameras on...

Was Slowie Films the victim of unwarranted discrimination, or was the videographer doing lines off a hooker's ass in clear view of the TV cameras on live TV? There are layers here. 

motoxxx599 wrote:

She technically wasn’t a hooker, we never paid her..

I’d like to see this. 

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Also last post 🙃 since it is 3:29am… but DC is the shit. I’m a regular DEGENERATE and he’s been nothing but kind to me every time I ever had to deal with him. Imagine an asshole like me or this slower guy sending you an e mail. Just to even get back to us is huge as much as Davey has on his plate. 

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jmo443 wrote:
Also last post 🙃 since it is 3:29am… but DC is the shit. I’m a regular DEGENERATE and he’s been nothing but kind to me every...

Also last post 🙃 since it is 3:29am… but DC is the shit. I’m a regular DEGENERATE and he’s been nothing but kind to me every time I ever had to deal with him. Imagine an asshole like me or this slower guy sending you an e mail. Just to even get back to us is huge as much as Davey has on his plate. 

You left a little on your chin. 

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I've watched several Slowie videos on YouTube. I even click the "like" button to support him.

He's one handsome sonofabitch!

 

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Ok so this entire thread is based on a false premise. Sounds about right in todays hysteria. 

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I love how Cooksey is brave enough to bring controversial topics to light, one reason why we need him. The current media outlets are scared of...

I love how Cooksey is brave enough to bring controversial topics to light, one reason why we need him. The current media outlets are scared of Mx Sports/DC which is sad, some people only “want to hear the motocross stuff” but others want the whole cake. 

Just like when Cotter ripped the dudes phone away from him I only heard that story from Cooksey, Our sport is rowdy our fans are rowdy we are not going to lose fans by seeing what slowie post. Almost any action sport has a group degenerates that film and capture the party. 

 

Rickyisms wrote:
The problem I have with Cooksey is that he comes across so unrationally angry like Tim Cotter or whoever made out with his chick in high...

The problem I have with Cooksey is that he comes across so unrationally angry like Tim Cotter or whoever made out with his chick in high school. If he could control his emotions (or completely remove them from his work) he would probably be a lot more palatable to people. The name calling and euphemisms are just stupid. 

This x 100

Ease up on the anger and everything being bad every video and he'd have a ton more creditability. 

Sometimes everyone doesn't suck. 

Sometimes DC's heavy handed management actually helps the sport. 

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There is a No Fun Ring in MX Sports!

that guys going down! 

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I'm having a hard time finding the issue here. Why would "Slowie" want a media pass? Wouldn't he have more cred with his followers not being beholden to the rules that accompany a media pass? As he said repeatedly in the video he doesn't need media access for his content.

And why would anyone expect MX Sports to grant him a pass? They aren't trying to censor his content, they just can't endorse or accredit his content.

And finally what the hell does Cooksey have to do with this? One of the comments under the youtube video was "Cooksey sent us to give our support". What a strange cult he's building.

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8/16/2024 7:00am
Camp332 wrote:
I've watched several Slowie videos on YouTube. I even click the "like" button to support him.He's one handsome sonofabitch! 

I've watched several Slowie videos on YouTube. I even click the "like" button to support him.

He's one handsome sonofabitch!

 

😆

I feel like i should subscribe and like just so he may acquire the funds to get some dental work done. 

And whats with the obsession with doing pushups in his videos? In the 2 videos i watched to get to the bottom of this Ker Fuffle...everytime i fast forwarded and came to a stop, somebody was doing pushups.

And another observation...was i the only 20 year old who back in the day could handle my alcohol without getting into a fight and destroying someone elses property?

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8/16/2024 7:09am
soggy wrote:

Ok so this entire thread is based on a false premise. Sounds about right in todays hysteria. 

Clickbait title per usual.

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A accredited moto media outlet?

Oxymorons are my favorite.

ML512 wrote:

Oh, bite me.

Serious question, how does a media outlet become accredited? 

Who blesses this accreditation?

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8/16/2024 7:15am Edited Date/Time 8/16/2024 7:16am

A accredited moto media outlet?

Oxymorons are my favorite.

ML512 wrote:

Oh, bite me.

ThreadKill wrote:

Serious question, how does a media outlet become accredited? 

Who blesses this accreditation?

I too am interested in this. It would seem Slowie or whoever could apply for this accreditation?

But what they likely mean by saying that word is “you aren’t a media outlet unless we say you are”

Just more cool kids table BS from the elite

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A accredited moto media outlet?

Oxymorons are my favorite.

ML512 wrote:

Oh, bite me.

ThreadKill wrote:

Serious question, how does a media outlet become accredited? 

Who blesses this accreditation?

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8/16/2024 7:43am
Camp332 wrote:
I've watched several Slowie videos on YouTube. I even click the "like" button to support him.He's one handsome sonofabitch! 

I've watched several Slowie videos on YouTube. I even click the "like" button to support him.

He's one handsome sonofabitch!

 

😆I feel like i should subscribe and like just so he may acquire the funds to get some dental work done. And whats with the obsession with...

😆

I feel like i should subscribe and like just so he may acquire the funds to get some dental work done. 

And whats with the obsession with doing pushups in his videos? In the 2 videos i watched to get to the bottom of this Ker Fuffle...everytime i fast forwarded and came to a stop, somebody was doing pushups.

And another observation...was i the only 20 year old who back in the day could handle my alcohol without getting into a fight and destroying someone elses property?

There isn’t a laugh react button on here but the tooth comment gave me a chuckle 😂

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DC, like any business owner, has the right to grant access.  And DC/MXSports are a driving force behind keeping the Nationals alive and well.  Those who side with the videographer may want to consider where MX might be if run by a soulless corporation versus a family who has invested their entire lives into this sport. 

Davey IS motocross; Slowie’s just passing through.  If you don’t like MXSport’s decision-making I’m sure DC is open to selling it to interested parties. 

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8/16/2024 8:42am
LoudLove wrote:
DC, like any business owner, has the right to grant access.  And DC/MXSports are a driving force behind keeping the Nationals alive and well.  Those who...

DC, like any business owner, has the right to grant access.  And DC/MXSports are a driving force behind keeping the Nationals alive and well.  Those who side with the videographer may want to consider where MX might be if run by a soulless corporation versus a family who has invested their entire lives into this sport. 

Davey IS motocross; Slowie’s just passing through.  If you don’t like MXSport’s decision-making I’m sure DC is open to selling it to interested parties. 

I feel like it’s more about the reasoning behind it rather than the actual decision. Insurance rates? Couldn’t they have just told Slowie, “hey dude, we understand you’re having fun and creating content but it paints a narrative that we are currently trying to change”.

Figured I should mention this as well;

 every photo/video taken at the races is technically property of MX sports (it’s written in fine print somewhere if anyone wants to hunt it down). Obviously with everyone having a camera in their pocket, they don’t really have a way to stop it from happening but what they can do is blacklist you if you don’t comply to their requests which they have every legal right to do. 

I respect the decision DC made here and this is coming from a former Mx videographer/editor who got blacklisted from the Nationals 14 years ago. They messed up the paperwork so I technically wasn’t even supposed to get a media pass, the video I posted got popular as I captured a moment no other videographer did, they asked me to take it down, I didn’t comply so they blacklisted me. I have been to many MX and SX races since so I guess it was more of a warning. 

MX sports is trying and it’s certainly appreciated but I wish they had been a bit more transparent in this particular case. 

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LoudLove wrote:
DC, like any business owner, has the right to grant access.  And DC/MXSports are a driving force behind keeping the Nationals alive and well.  Those who...

DC, like any business owner, has the right to grant access.  And DC/MXSports are a driving force behind keeping the Nationals alive and well.  Those who side with the videographer may want to consider where MX might be if run by a soulless corporation versus a family who has invested their entire lives into this sport. 

Davey IS motocross; Slowie’s just passing through.  If you don’t like MXSport’s decision-making I’m sure DC is open to selling it to interested parties. 

Professional Motocross was here before DC jr and will be here after he leaves. 

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8/16/2024 9:15am
bens 152 wrote:
Man people get too wound up over this stuff. Pitchforks out for every side. Why can’t we let people party and get wild without everything going...

Man people get too wound up over this stuff. Pitchforks out for every side. Why can’t we let people party and get wild without everything going on camera and YT/IG. 

So no video at all?

Or where do you draw the demarcation line at? 

8/16/2024 9:19am
Gmyersdork wrote:

Slowie never had a media pass maybe? Cant take what he didnt have. Its "they're" race series, why cant you enjoy it? Sorry glen helen

Not to be the grammar police..."they're" is a contraction of "they are."

"Their" - belonging to or associated with the people or things previously mentioned or easily identified.

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DC, like any business owner, has the right to grant access.  And DC/MXSports are a driving force behind keeping the Nationals alive and well.  Those who...

DC, like any business owner, has the right to grant access.  And DC/MXSports are a driving force behind keeping the Nationals alive and well.  Those who side with the videographer may want to consider where MX might be if run by a soulless corporation versus a family who has invested their entire lives into this sport. 

Davey IS motocross; Slowie’s just passing through.  If you don’t like MXSport’s decision-making I’m sure DC is open to selling it to interested parties. 

Professional Motocross was here before DC jr and will be here after he leaves. 

Maybe.  MXSports and MX fights against many foes and competitors.  Landowners, noise regulations, discretionary income alternatives, declining bike sales, you name it. Slowie could be the least of their worries. 

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8/16/2024 10:19am

so we instantly grab the Vital phone to reach out to DC if/when he needs the opportunity to defend himself, AND we then pass along that defense to the masses? HOWEVER, when there's an issue that is critical of DC that he can't really defend (multiple flagging issues this year) we just wait for the topic to die down so that DC isn't forced to address the issue?

Just trying to keep up.

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LoudLove wrote:
DC, like any business owner, has the right to grant access.  And DC/MXSports are a driving force behind keeping the Nationals alive and well.  Those who...

DC, like any business owner, has the right to grant access.  And DC/MXSports are a driving force behind keeping the Nationals alive and well.  Those who side with the videographer may want to consider where MX might be if run by a soulless corporation versus a family who has invested their entire lives into this sport. 

Davey IS motocross; Slowie’s just passing through.  If you don’t like MXSport’s decision-making I’m sure DC is open to selling it to interested parties. 

Professional Motocross was here before DC jr and will be here after he leaves. 

LoudLove wrote:
Maybe.  MXSports and MX fights against many foes and competitors.  Landowners, noise regulations, discretionary income alternatives, declining bike sales, you name it. Slowie could be the...

Maybe.  MXSports and MX fights against many foes and competitors.  Landowners, noise regulations, discretionary income alternatives, declining bike sales, you name it. Slowie could be the least of their worries. 

MX sports is fighting those? Or the tracks themselves?

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