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wilt was ahead of his time but I can make a case tht wilt under pure athleticism not even top 5 nba player all time , hell even “accomplishments” rarely anybody got him in the top 5
Everything Sharpe claimed, Wilt was more of it.
I don't care for it either but, them's some rough individuals. ARF, to me is a cool game. Same deal, just rough as all get out but, higher scoring. The NFL don't need me for a fan.
yal goona have to show me some other film of wilt cause I ain’t see it as far as having more of it
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If football is a show is that why they wear mascara eye makeup and then what are the show commercials called?
They want you to go out and buy game day snacks and have parties over while watching people get their helmets blown off from tackles that give 10 yard penalties.
Success at MX takes extreme stamina, fantastic coordination, and dogged determination. No one is denying that.
What MX lacks is “depth at position”. It’s a niche sport with a high cost-of-entry. The gates are filled with white suburban kids who likely would not excel at stick & ball or track & field. Being tremendously athletic and being a great athlete are not the same.
Anyone earning a living at football, basketball, etc. competed against thousands, maybe tens of thousands, of people. Almost all high schools provide students with the ability to participate in a variety of sports, creating a very deep gene pool. It’s the exact opposite for MX or any motorized sport.
Suffice to say that if MX were as accessible as school sponsored sports, no one on the gate today would have a ride.
Lol, ok then I challenge you to qualify for the 2028 Olympic marathon. You said ANYONE can build stamina and endurance so there's no excuses. You got 4 years to get it done, better start training now
And gotta love how you ignored the part I said about having elite reflexes and hand-eye coordination
Here is another way to look at athleticism. Pro motocross/supercross riders crash once in a while and almost every time, get up, get back on the bike like nothing happened. Take that 350lb football player and the first MX/SX obstacle they hit and crash on, they would be lucky to just break bones but most likely would never walk or maybe even breath again. That is just one obstacle and it would be even worse if they somehow managed not to die and made it to the 30 minute mark exhausted and then crashed. 350lbs and gravity do not mix well!
Now take Haiden Deegan and put him on the D-line of an NFL team. How would that turn out? Oh, and Deegs needs to line up for 25-40 plays. There would be little left of Dangerboy after a single series, much less an entire game.
My take:
Baseball players - not athletes, and not required to be athletic but can be.
Football players - not athletes, and not required to be athletic but can be. Typical actual play time for NFL game is 11-13mins. No endurance required. Just need really big/fat dudes to hold the line and small fast dudes to run and catch a ball, and 1 or 2 guys who can throw a ball.
Basketball players - very athletic but limited in disciplines due to size.
MX'rs - top athletes. Can crossover into many other disciplines. Eg. David Bailey after suffering paralysis competed in Ironman Triathlon. Right out the gate finished 3rd. That's how fit they are.
It's almost like they compete in different sports that require different athletic attributes and skills...
Exactly. We all know MX is hard. Just like trying to move a 300 lb O-lineman is hard. Or hitting a round ball with a round bat is hard.
Which would you say happens first, Deegs hit's a baseball or, 300 pound NFL lineman hits a double jump?
Hitting a baseball from a MLB pitcher is not as easy as you think. This guy has a baseball background.
There's all sorts of video on youtube about Wilt. As far as the 'numbers' go, you do realize that if you take Jordan's, Kobe's, LeBron's and probably several more high profile player's statistical league records and put them together, Wilt still has twice as many?
Wilt could, touch the top of the backboard. Bench press over 500 pounds. Outrun Jim Brown in the 40. Played every minute of every game except one, for a whole season. HOF in two professional sports. And did it all without oxygen or steroids.
Never said it was easy. Just asked a question. I'll ask it again. Which happens first, Deegs hits a baseball or, 300 pound lineman hits a double? AND, if Deegs has to hit a MLB pitcher, said lineman has to hit the finish line double at a SX. You and I both know the answer.
bruh…. thts all I got to say
ima get back to the film room & really pay attention to see wht I missed out on 👍🏾
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It’s MX Sports own fault motocross isn’t more popular. Look how much goes into promoting the UFC. And that company / sport/ Sports league was created in 1993. Motocross and Supercross have a 20 year head start on MMA. I think there needs to be a Netflix documentary or something to introduce fans to the sport. I personally don’t know anyone that follows Motocross than never rode a dirt bike. MX needs exposure to the casual fanbase. That what made MMA/UFC popular, the reality show literally took UFC out of a 40 million dollar debt to a money printing MACHINE. Supercross can do the same.
I wasn’t a big fan of Brady seeing a lot of screen passes but he had some big plays and he almost went for pro baseball career instead of football when he was down in the draft. He wore the eye makeup for baseball too:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Brady
https://610kona.com/tom-brady-was-almost-a-major-league-baseball-star/
Lebron claimed to have photographic memory knowing all the players and positions the whole game and movies/TV trivia:
https://www.si.com/nba/2020/03/27/inside-the-mind-of-lebron-james-a-look-at-his-iq
Jordan taught Kobe and did his eulogy too tear jerker:
https://www.sportscasting.com/news/michael-jordan-almost-regretted-teaching-kobe-bryant-signature-fadeaway/
Eulogy:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2020/02/24/michael-jordan-speech-kobe-bryant-memorial/4860574002/
Shaq had the biggest purchase at Wal-mart:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1W3A2hQhdg4
If we are talking terminology to compare:
Stewart was the “Tiger Woods of Motocross”.
If Brady is the “GOAT” of football they should include the “GOAT” of MX Carmichael.
If Mike Trout was a “Generational” player we could include ours like Jett or our newest forum friend Deegan.
Phelps is an Olympics hero, who led us to the most medals?
Hey Gypsy Bro, I didn't know this was your account. Welcome to Vital.
This is what i think of when you say American Football ......
Easy. Clearing the double. Of course a 300 lb lineman would require a highly customized bike, but once he had practiced the basics, clearing a jump is mainly a timing issue. Change it to Larocco’s Leap and there’s a different answer.
The best pros in the MLB struggle to hit .300. Nearly all can make contact at will, but successfully reaching base is the objective, just as clearing the jump is the objective. Underrating professional baseball players’ athleticism fails to take into account the tremendously competitive world in which these guys exist.
Let’s extrapolate the scenario and assume today’s MX pros were fielding pro baseball or basketball teams. Without other competitors we would consider these guys the best in the world. Expand the gene pool to who actually competes and we soon realize our MX heroes lack certain genetic gifts. And when you consider that thousands of pro stick & ball athletes fall just outside the top tier, it’s not a reach to think those same athletes could transcend motocross if given the opportunity. It’s simple statistics.
This is always the argument I try to make when people compare MX to mainstream sports. There is literally at least a million kids playing high school football, most suck but the very best get picked every year and if they make it on a team they will get replaced at the first sign of struggle.The genetic freaks and only the most talented guys will rise to the top.
I know this an MX forum but some guys in here act like the NFL is not athletic are out of their mind.
Easy peasy.... Yeah, it's all about timing. Hand eye coordination. Same as hitting a baseball. Except if you miss... Strike one or,,,, bamalance ride.
"Football players - not athletes, and not required to be athletic but can be. Typical actual play time for NFL game is 11-13mins. No endurance required. Just need really big/fat dudes to hold the line and small fast dudes to run and catch a ball, and 1 or 2 guys who can throw a ball."
Go take this guy on for 10 minutes and get back to us. He's quick, fast, strong, and smart.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/72965621/usa_today_21976111.0.jpg
Didn't say they couldn't be...........did I?
First 2 words?
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