Anyone believe Biden has Covid?

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Maybe he really has Covid. Who knows and who cares at this point? I mean, other than for the simple fact that I don't want to...

Maybe he really has Covid. Who knows and who cares at this point? I mean, other than for the simple fact that I don't want to see another human suffer from it, I don't think it matters. The Democrats could simply say "this is worse than any of us ever imagined, so we decided to go another direction" and nominate someone else. They really don't need to try and save face by covering up his weaknesses anymore.

What happens to Joe if he refuses to step down? Will the Dems vote for a different nominee? That's the question on my mind.

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They've already held their primaries, and cant vote anyone else in, can they?I think the only 2 options are the 25th which means Harris, or disenfranchise...

They've already held their primaries, and cant vote anyone else in, can they?

I think the only 2 options are the 25th which means Harris, or disenfranchise everyone who voted in the primaries and place a new candidate .

Not sure how either of those choices is good for them.

 

He’s siting on all the Delegates (and ALL the money). 

The Dem’s are probably bribing Jill & Hunter to “let” Joe…to “tell” Joe to step aside. 

As for the 25th: if any of this was done the way it’s supposed to? It would have been enforced by The Cabinet in 2021. 

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She serves out his remaining term, if he can't continue.

That's according to our constitution.

 

But why is she the one to automatically take over the top spot in the campaign, when they force him out ??

 

And...

If he's too weak, sick, and/or decrepit to run from here on out, for reelection, how is he well enough to govern the nation ??

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I am thinking the same freeh. We watched Vance speak last night on one of the networks and after they had gone back to the studio to...

I am thinking the same freeh.

 We watched Vance speak last night on one of the networks and after they had gone back to the studio to talk about his speech, they then showed this  video of Biden getting into the back of the vehicle. It took him forever to get in and then he put a mask on and the door closed, cutting off the dome light and all you see is the black masked silhouette of Biden. I thought to myself, that's the last we will see of him. Not that he's going to die, but that he will by the weekend drop out of the race. Somebody will speak for him and all we will see of him from now on is the rare photo here and there.

Dementia, while being a disease of the brain, doesn't stop there.Your brain controls every system in your body.Motor skills.Respiratory. All of your internal organs. They made an emergency...

Dementia, while being a disease of the brain, doesn't stop there.

Your brain controls every system in your body.

Motor skills.

Respiratory. 

All of your internal organs.

 

They made an emergency U-turn with air force one last night.

And put the hammer down getting him back home.

 

The guy is declining fast.

Very fast.

Covid is a convenient cover story.

 

Pat Summitt, a local basketball legend around here, had dementia.

She succumbed to internal organ failure resulting from the disease.

Dementia is not a disease - It is a symptom. It can be caused by strokes (my mom suffered from this), Alzheimer’s, CTE, or any of a wide range of diseases or conditions. Depending on the cause, it may or may not be progressive. 

If you already have dementia for some other reason, I don’t doubt that Covid can exacerbate it. I had Covid a few years ago and had terrible brain fog for weeks. This is the simplest explanation of what we’re seeing: a preexisting condition that is causing dementia, now exacerbated by Covid. The simplest explanation tends to be the most likely, but other possible explanations are plausible too. In any event, I doubt he’s fit for the job now, never mind 4 years from now. He perhaps can limp through this term (other presidents have been worse - FDR was literally dying in his fourth term, Wilson had a stroke and his wife ran the country) but anything other than withdrawal from the race seems to me insanity. 

I, of course, know nothing about what is going on behind the scenes, which puts me in roughly the same position as everyone else here. I don’t think a high degree of confidence in any explanation is justified. 

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I am thinking the same freeh. We watched Vance speak last night on one of the networks and after they had gone back to the studio to...

I am thinking the same freeh.

 We watched Vance speak last night on one of the networks and after they had gone back to the studio to talk about his speech, they then showed this  video of Biden getting into the back of the vehicle. It took him forever to get in and then he put a mask on and the door closed, cutting off the dome light and all you see is the black masked silhouette of Biden. I thought to myself, that's the last we will see of him. Not that he's going to die, but that he will by the weekend drop out of the race. Somebody will speak for him and all we will see of him from now on is the rare photo here and there.

Dementia, while being a disease of the brain, doesn't stop there.Your brain controls every system in your body.Motor skills.Respiratory. All of your internal organs. They made an emergency...

Dementia, while being a disease of the brain, doesn't stop there.

Your brain controls every system in your body.

Motor skills.

Respiratory. 

All of your internal organs.

 

They made an emergency U-turn with air force one last night.

And put the hammer down getting him back home.

 

The guy is declining fast.

Very fast.

Covid is a convenient cover story.

 

Pat Summitt, a local basketball legend around here, had dementia.

She succumbed to internal organ failure resulting from the disease.

MPJC wrote:
Dementia is not a disease - It is a symptom. It can be caused by strokes (my mom suffered from this), Alzheimer’s, CTE, or any of...

Dementia is not a disease - It is a symptom. It can be caused by strokes (my mom suffered from this), Alzheimer’s, CTE, or any of a wide range of diseases or conditions. Depending on the cause, it may or may not be progressive. 

If you already have dementia for some other reason, I don’t doubt that Covid can exacerbate it. I had Covid a few years ago and had terrible brain fog for weeks. This is the simplest explanation of what we’re seeing: a preexisting condition that is causing dementia, now exacerbated by Covid. The simplest explanation tends to be the most likely, but other possible explanations are plausible too. In any event, I doubt he’s fit for the job now, never mind 4 years from now. He perhaps can limp through this term (other presidents have been worse - FDR was literally dying in his fourth term, Wilson had a stroke and his wife ran the country) but anything other than withdrawal from the race seems to me insanity. 

I, of course, know nothing about what is going on behind the scenes, which puts me in roughly the same position as everyone else here. I don’t think a high degree of confidence in any explanation is justified. 

Who could forget Nancy finishing Ronald's sentences. Sad situation.

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Dementia, while being a disease of the brain, doesn't stop there.Your brain controls every system in your body.Motor skills.Respiratory. All of your internal organs. They made an emergency...

Dementia, while being a disease of the brain, doesn't stop there.

Your brain controls every system in your body.

Motor skills.

Respiratory. 

All of your internal organs.

 

They made an emergency U-turn with air force one last night.

And put the hammer down getting him back home.

 

The guy is declining fast.

Very fast.

Covid is a convenient cover story.

 

Pat Summitt, a local basketball legend around here, had dementia.

She succumbed to internal organ failure resulting from the disease.

MPJC wrote:
Dementia is not a disease - It is a symptom. It can be caused by strokes (my mom suffered from this), Alzheimer’s, CTE, or any of...

Dementia is not a disease - It is a symptom. It can be caused by strokes (my mom suffered from this), Alzheimer’s, CTE, or any of a wide range of diseases or conditions. Depending on the cause, it may or may not be progressive. 

If you already have dementia for some other reason, I don’t doubt that Covid can exacerbate it. I had Covid a few years ago and had terrible brain fog for weeks. This is the simplest explanation of what we’re seeing: a preexisting condition that is causing dementia, now exacerbated by Covid. The simplest explanation tends to be the most likely, but other possible explanations are plausible too. In any event, I doubt he’s fit for the job now, never mind 4 years from now. He perhaps can limp through this term (other presidents have been worse - FDR was literally dying in his fourth term, Wilson had a stroke and his wife ran the country) but anything other than withdrawal from the race seems to me insanity. 

I, of course, know nothing about what is going on behind the scenes, which puts me in roughly the same position as everyone else here. I don’t think a high degree of confidence in any explanation is justified. 

ILoveMoto wrote:

Who could forget Nancy finishing Ronald's sentences. Sad situation.

Sad indeed. Fuck politics, on a human level it’s hard to watch. 

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Alzheimer's disease.

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We’re maybe a week..or less…away from…

“Joe Biden, sadly stepping down due to health concerns.”

Then…it’ll be all about his heroic intentions in handing the reins to Kamala(she’s got an insurance policy: I GUARANTEE she’s got a “I’m concerned about the President” e-mail dating back to ‘21 or ‘22 and she’ll pull it out if they piss her off…it’s her “25th Amend Insurance Policy)...so, where was I? Oh… Yes! Joe the Hero. 

And then there will be the sympathetic narrative that they’ll attempt to play out to keep their delegates in-line. Poor Joe, he really wanted to do it For Democracy…but, he’s just too sick…or whatever. They could threaten him with the 25th or impeachment…but, they can only threaten. Too many of them would burn of they do any of that…

About those delegates, and all the attached money…there-in lies the goal…the money…and the delegate votes…that they’ll scheme and scam into their intended direction and are surely gonna do EVERYTHING above and below board…to avoid the absolute cluster-fuck that awaits in Chicago…that’s truly what they’ve got to avoid…in order to keep control of this madness. 

As to how they get Joe to step aside…? Well, they’ll negotiate with Jill/Hunter…if I had to guess…a coupl’a hundred million and one helluva a Presidential Library…yup, a VERY well funded “foundation”.   

But, I could be wrong. 

Remember: Joe the Hero. Health Concerns. Kamala. Delegates all fall in line.

You know, True Democracy. Because, they’re saving it…for all of us…one very well manipulated dollar at a time. 

You Can Not Make This Shit Up.

Manny 

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We’re maybe a week..or less…away from…“Joe Biden, sadly stepping down due to health concerns.”Then…it’ll be all about his heroic intentions in handing the reins to Kamala(she’s...

We’re maybe a week..or less…away from…

“Joe Biden, sadly stepping down due to health concerns.”

Then…it’ll be all about his heroic intentions in handing the reins to Kamala(she’s got an insurance policy: I GUARANTEE she’s got a “I’m concerned about the President” e-mail dating back to ‘21 or ‘22 and she’ll pull it out if they piss her off…it’s her “25th Amend Insurance Policy)...so, where was I? Oh… Yes! Joe the Hero. 

And then there will be the sympathetic narrative that they’ll attempt to play out to keep their delegates in-line. Poor Joe, he really wanted to do it For Democracy…but, he’s just too sick…or whatever. They could threaten him with the 25th or impeachment…but, they can only threaten. Too many of them would burn of they do any of that…

About those delegates, and all the attached money…there-in lies the goal…the money…and the delegate votes…that they’ll scheme and scam into their intended direction and are surely gonna do EVERYTHING above and below board…to avoid the absolute cluster-fuck that awaits in Chicago…that’s truly what they’ve got to avoid…in order to keep control of this madness. 

As to how they get Joe to step aside…? Well, they’ll negotiate with Jill/Hunter…if I had to guess…a coupl’a hundred million and one helluva a Presidential Library…yup, a VERY well funded “foundation”.   

But, I could be wrong. 

Remember: Joe the Hero. Health Concerns. Kamala. Delegates all fall in line.

You know, True Democracy. Because, they’re saving it…for all of us…one very well manipulated dollar at a time. 

You Can Not Make This Shit Up.

Manny 

If Hillary didn't beat the "Teflon" Don this lady doesn't stand a chance!

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Considering that the leader of Zimbabwe had a Papaya, goat, and something else test positive.... Yes I believe he tested positive. They killed the Zimbabwe guy. Covid is a scam, and  in my opinion people were mistreated for what was really wrong with them due to faulty BS tests. Then some died. Flu cases went to almost zero. Follow the money. I'm going to stop there. Ain't worth anymore of my time to deal with anyone who believes covid was that real. 

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Dementia is not a disease - It is a symptom. It can be caused by strokes (my mom suffered from this), Alzheimer’s, CTE, or any of...

Dementia is not a disease - It is a symptom. It can be caused by strokes (my mom suffered from this), Alzheimer’s, CTE, or any of a wide range of diseases or conditions. Depending on the cause, it may or may not be progressive. 

If you already have dementia for some other reason, I don’t doubt that Covid can exacerbate it. I had Covid a few years ago and had terrible brain fog for weeks. This is the simplest explanation of what we’re seeing: a preexisting condition that is causing dementia, now exacerbated by Covid. The simplest explanation tends to be the most likely, but other possible explanations are plausible too. In any event, I doubt he’s fit for the job now, never mind 4 years from now. He perhaps can limp through this term (other presidents have been worse - FDR was literally dying in his fourth term, Wilson had a stroke and his wife ran the country) but anything other than withdrawal from the race seems to me insanity. 

I, of course, know nothing about what is going on behind the scenes, which puts me in roughly the same position as everyone else here. I don’t think a high degree of confidence in any explanation is justified. 

ILoveMoto wrote:

Who could forget Nancy finishing Ronald's sentences. Sad situation.

MPJC wrote:

Sad indeed. Fuck politics, on a human level it’s hard to watch. 

It was plain as day on debate night. 

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ILoveMoto wrote:

Who could forget Nancy finishing Ronald's sentences. Sad situation.

MPJC wrote:

Sad indeed. Fuck politics, on a human level it’s hard to watch. 

ns503 wrote:

It was plain as day on debate night. 

It was obvious that he was not  cognitively healthy. It’s not obvious what’s causing it. 

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I've been of the mindset for almost a year that the democrats are going to punt this election and come out swinging in '28 with someone new (Newsom is way too unlikeable across the country, so I doubt he gets the nod). 

An interesting theory I heard on a podcast that backs the punt theory up is, Joe drops out of the race, dems nominate Kamala knowing she doesn't stand a chance, and they get to kill two birds with one stone; dems save face by not skipping over a female POC and the loss forces Kamala out of politics forever (not even her own party likes her). 

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I've been of the mindset for almost a year that the democrats are going to punt this election and come out swinging in '28 with someone...

I've been of the mindset for almost a year that the democrats are going to punt this election and come out swinging in '28 with someone new (Newsom is way too unlikeable across the country, so I doubt he gets the nod). 

An interesting theory I heard on a podcast that backs the punt theory up is, Joe drops out of the race, dems nominate Kamala knowing she doesn't stand a chance, and they get to kill two birds with one stone; dems save face by not skipping over a female POC and the loss forces Kamala out of politics forever (not even her own party likes her). 

I don't disagree, but that kInda puts a lie to the whole "this election is about preserving the republic and democracy and our very way of life!" bullshit, doesn't it?

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Dementia is not a disease - It is a symptom. It can be caused by strokes (my mom suffered from this), Alzheimer’s, CTE, or any of...

Dementia is not a disease - It is a symptom. It can be caused by strokes (my mom suffered from this), Alzheimer’s, CTE, or any of a wide range of diseases or conditions. Depending on the cause, it may or may not be progressive. 

If you already have dementia for some other reason, I don’t doubt that Covid can exacerbate it. I had Covid a few years ago and had terrible brain fog for weeks. This is the simplest explanation of what we’re seeing: a preexisting condition that is causing dementia, now exacerbated by Covid. The simplest explanation tends to be the most likely, but other possible explanations are plausible too. In any event, I doubt he’s fit for the job now, never mind 4 years from now. He perhaps can limp through this term (other presidents have been worse - FDR was literally dying in his fourth term, Wilson had a stroke and his wife ran the country) but anything other than withdrawal from the race seems to me insanity. 

I, of course, know nothing about what is going on behind the scenes, which puts me in roughly the same position as everyone else here. I don’t think a high degree of confidence in any explanation is justified. 

Sorry to hear about your mom.  My grand mother suffered as well.  

as for Biden, it's amazing it's been drawn out this long, I feel bad for him.  let the guy go have a normal late 80's in peace with his family. 

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Yep, saves them from having to admit it was due to "cognitive decline". And it gets the added bonus that they can keep the Covid bullshit front...

Yep, saves them from having to admit it was due to "cognitive decline". 

And it gets the added bonus that they can keep the Covid bullshit front and center, and all the Dems will run out and get their 7th booster. Which makes Pfizer happy, Pfizer sends more $$ to the Dems, they get rid of Joe, this is a win-win for everyone on the left.

Does not seem like a good advertisement for the effectiveness of the vaccine though, lol

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Plan A: Talk Joe into stepping down since it’s apparent that he’s not able to beat Trump. Joe refuses. 

Plan B: Kill Trump. Plan fails.

Plan C: Announce to the world that Joe has COVID. If he fails to step down a second time, kill Joe. 
Cause of death: COVID.

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84 y.o. Nancy Pelosi will spend some time telling  the 82 y.o. Joe Biden that he's too old to hold office.

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Looks like this weekend he might call it quits.

Breitbart is saying that the obvious options are he gets behind Harris then they find a suitable vp or an open convention with up to 4 candidate and no first round super delegate.

I agree with who ever said that they have to ride the Harris train out and that's how they throw this election to. They just need to get her a strong enough vp ccandidate that people can say they really tried. That this was such a dire moment we needed to act. It's for ddemocracy! 

Newsomes to unlikable overall right  now to push it home as a vp but also kills or at least hurts any future presidential or vp ideas. They need a big hitter likeable or not to at least pretend they want this. Could they spin it enough to keep him alive for 28?

Obama would be a great incase of emergency break glass. That would turn heads and votes. Its for democracy. About zero percent of happening but it could.

Hillary would be great. If the win first all female ticket, black female presiden, 2nd female vp, first first  lady to vp.

 HH 2024 if they win well fuck but if they lose it looks like a storng last minut  ticket no political ccasualties they care about. Hillary can take the black eye and still do what she does. Harris is gone and they resturcture for 28.

I dobt think pelosi or schiff have enough either to make it look good.

Who else could they find for vp to make it a "serious" push and maybe not hurt their chances later.

 

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I've been of the mindset for almost a year that the democrats are going to punt this election and come out swinging in '28 with someone...

I've been of the mindset for almost a year that the democrats are going to punt this election and come out swinging in '28 with someone new (Newsom is way too unlikeable across the country, so I doubt he gets the nod). 

An interesting theory I heard on a podcast that backs the punt theory up is, Joe drops out of the race, dems nominate Kamala knowing she doesn't stand a chance, and they get to kill two birds with one stone; dems save face by not skipping over a female POC and the loss forces Kamala out of politics forever (not even her own party likes her). 

vet323 wrote:
I don't disagree, but that kInda puts a lie to the whole "this election is about preserving the republic and democracy and our very way of...

I don't disagree, but that kInda puts a lie to the whole "this election is about preserving the republic and democracy and our very way of life!" bullshit, doesn't it?

Internally, the dem party knows they’ve lost ‘24, but I’m guessing they keep pushing that narrative through the election. Then on January 22 (or whichever day follows the inauguration), they go full court press on ‘28 with someone like Hakeem Jeffries as the new face of the party, and savior of ‘democracy.’ 

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I stubbed my big toe this mmorning. 

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Well if he does,

Somebody remind him that it came from, his friends in CHYNA.

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They found a soft spot for Joe to land. Face saving way to get him to the curb. See ya …

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They elect the “First Black Woman Vice President”…and they throw her under the bus? 

Ummmm…you do realize we’re talking about the Democrats in 2024…right…?

On the other hand, they did force Joe down our throats and they didn’t seem to understand how stupid that was…and their “1st Black Woman VP”did call him a racist…

On second thought…there’s NOTHING these POS’s won’t do. 

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Here's my thought. Joe steps down, Dem's have no choice but to go with Kamila, they dont want her but have no choice, no one is going to want to be her VP. Gavin or Gretchen would be committing career suicide if they went with her. 

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Saw something Charlie Kirk posted- that he heard Joe will bow out of the race this weekend, but not resign from his current term.

Kamala will go to an open convention with 2-3 other potential candidates and they will have a run-off election with the delegates to determine who they will go with for the next election.

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Saw something Charlie Kirk posted- that he heard Joe will bow out of the race this weekend, but not resign from his current term.Kamala will go...

Saw something Charlie Kirk posted- that he heard Joe will bow out of the race this weekend, but not resign from his current term.

Kamala will go to an open convention with 2-3 other potential candidates and they will have a run-off election with the delegates to determine who they will go with for the next election.

A family member showed me that last night but I forgot to have them send it to me and now I can’t find it.

The way they try to thread this needle will be interesting, to say the least.

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MPJC wrote:

Sad indeed. Fuck politics, on a human level it’s hard to watch. 

ns503 wrote:

It was plain as day on debate night. 

MPJC wrote:

It was obvious that he was not  cognitively healthy. It’s not obvious what’s causing it. 

Does it matter?

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It was plain as day on debate night. 

MPJC wrote:

It was obvious that he was not  cognitively healthy. It’s not obvious what’s causing it. 

ToolMaker wrote:

Does it matter?

For a prognosis, the cause matters a great deal. My mom’s dementia was stable for years. Some diseases cause rapid decline. I wouldn’t wish dementia on my worst enemy. So I suppose in that respect - as a human being that doesn’t wish ill on others - it matters. 

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