Hill and Chest Protector

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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 8:21am
WTF? Why don't you wear a chest protector Hill? If you didn't before wouldn't you after just to protect the ribs until they heal all the way? He even says one hit to the chest from the bars and he is done. Is wearing a chest pro really going to slow you down? Seems kind of silly to me.
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5/4/2010 12:12pm Edited Date/Time 5/4/2010 12:13pm
What chest protector (roost protector) is going to save him if he takes a good hit from the bars to the ribs? It might alleviate it some but not completely.
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5/4/2010 12:20pm
There is no way it won't help. May not of prevented or prolonged the injury in the first place but it could of made it less severe. Is that so bad? Why do catchers and umpires wear some sort of chest pro in baseball? Take any hard impact to the chest or ribs and I would much rather have a chest pro on. Maybe it would of been 2 ribs instead of 4? Just sayin'.
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5/4/2010 12:25pm
yep you're right, it would help at least some if he took another hit.. some protection is always better than none IMO
5/4/2010 12:54pm
I'm not disagreeing that some would be better than none, but with broken ribs that some isn't going to make much difference. That shits still going to hurt and hurt bad. Do we know he isn't wearing anything under his jersey? Is he taped up?

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5/4/2010 1:01pm
Face it. We don't have the level of articulated armor that we see in other sports.

Make all the excuses you want as to how a chest protector wouldn't prevent any kind of injury and go back and ask Dusty Klatt if a chest protector at Phoeix (I believe) might not have saved him the severe exhaust pipe burns he had to try to ride through for the rest of the SX series.

Can you have too much protection?
5/4/2010 1:10pm Edited Date/Time 5/4/2010 1:11pm
RACEGUY wrote:
Face it. We don't have the level of articulated armor that we see in other sports. Make all the excuses you want as to how a...
Face it. We don't have the level of articulated armor that we see in other sports.

Make all the excuses you want as to how a chest protector wouldn't prevent any kind of injury and go back and ask Dusty Klatt if a chest protector at Phoeix (I believe) might not have saved him the severe exhaust pipe burns he had to try to ride through for the rest of the SX series.

Can you have too much protection?
Who is making excuses? You are going to compare a burn to broken ribs?W00t

Answer no you can't have too much protection. Again how much good would a chest protector do for ALREADY broken ribs?
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5/4/2010 1:24pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 10:36pm
Only cool people wear chest pros. Like me.
Really though I dont get why pros dont wear em. When i look at my old one im damn glad i wore it through some of my shit ive been through. Maybe its like an "ode" to them not crashing? They do get in the way sometimes though. I could see especially if you were a short little person. Sometimes they leave rashes and shit.
I like mine caus it makes me feel like a ninja tutrle.
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5/4/2010 1:30pm
What chest protector (roost protector) is going to save him if he takes a good hit from the bars to the ribs? It might alleviate it...
What chest protector (roost protector) is going to save him if he takes a good hit from the bars to the ribs? It might alleviate it some but not completely.
come on, you got to start really opening your mind and decide to move towards more protection instead of the usual lame reply that chest-protectors do not protect.

There are chest-protectors, thorax protector and spine protectors out there on the market that works. not the fashion roost thing designed by a cool 19 y-o in a California "design bureau" who draws "cool", "sick', "gnar'" plastic stuff, just so that they don't look too ugly to be marketable. Because that's what some do when designing "protections", they make sure they look "cool".

There are products that are the results of survey, of investigation on motorcycle crashes, that are the results of collective studies, and that work.

Now, do you want to be protected or do you want to find excuses not to wear any, like "not cool" "too hot" "too bulky for the look", "too expensive because I need money for my Pro FMF $900 exhaust system",etc, etc.

The Euro riders wear back-protectors already and some even have the full chest/back safety jackets under their jersey. Do they rider slower than the average american kid? no. Do they melt under the sun and can't ride longer than 15 minutes motos? no!
5/4/2010 1:33pm
What chest protector (roost protector) is going to save him if he takes a good hit from the bars to the ribs? It might alleviate it...
What chest protector (roost protector) is going to save him if he takes a good hit from the bars to the ribs? It might alleviate it some but not completely.
Shenzi wrote:
come on, you got to start really opening your mind and decide to move towards more protection instead of the usual lame reply that chest-protectors do...
come on, you got to start really opening your mind and decide to move towards more protection instead of the usual lame reply that chest-protectors do not protect.

There are chest-protectors, thorax protector and spine protectors out there on the market that works. not the fashion roost thing designed by a cool 19 y-o in a California "design bureau" who draws "cool", "sick', "gnar'" plastic stuff, just so that they don't look too ugly to be marketable. Because that's what some do when designing "protections", they make sure they look "cool".

There are products that are the results of survey, of investigation on motorcycle crashes, that are the results of collective studies, and that work.

Now, do you want to be protected or do you want to find excuses not to wear any, like "not cool" "too hot" "too bulky for the look", "too expensive because I need money for my Pro FMF $900 exhaust system",etc, etc.

The Euro riders wear back-protectors already and some even have the full chest/back safety jackets under their jersey. Do they rider slower than the average american kid? no. Do they melt under the sun and can't ride longer than 15 minutes motos? no!
You need to read and get what I said. BTW I never ride without my chest protector, knee braces, helmet, or boots even if I am on a pit bike.
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5/4/2010 1:42pm
I am showing ours, but there are products made by other companies too. The thing is that the properly articulate products exist, the properly breathable products exist.

http://www.dainese.com/us_en/motorbike/thorax.html?cat=41

http://www.dainese.com/us_en/motorbike/armour-pro.html?cat=41

http://www.dainese.com/us_en/motorbike/paraschiena-wave-con-scapole.htm…

anyway, I posted already the photos before, as well as the work and studies that lead to the design of our products - again, others do that too in Europe - but no one gives a shit. You guys all come with the same crying threads every time someone gets hurt, every time someone passes away, every time someone gets maimed. The same threads all over again.

Anyway, Stevee401, you are absolutely right, it is kindda silly.

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5/4/2010 1:51pm
I have a friend that actually got injured worse from wearing one, I know I know smart off, but he broke some ribs and broke his collarbone, and the doc told him the collarbone was from the chest pro, I dont remember what kind he was using.
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5/4/2010 1:59pm Edited Date/Time 5/4/2010 3:12pm
I have a friend that actually got injured worse from wearing one, I know I know smart off, but he broke some ribs and broke his...
I have a friend that actually got injured worse from wearing one, I know I know smart off, but he broke some ribs and broke his collarbone, and the doc told him the collarbone was from the chest pro, I dont remember what kind he was using.
Something like 4% of the people killed in car accidents wearing a seat belt was a bad idea.

Am I going to stop wearing my seat belt? Hell no just like I am not going to stop wearing a chest protector because in some rare cases they maybe hurt more than they help.

To each their own......IMO there's a big void of common sense in our sport and the fact that chest protectors aren't required for all levels are racing just drive home this point to me.

BTW, considering the collarbone is the easiest bone in the body to break and the fact doctors aren't psychics I really don't put much value to your buddy's story.

Shenzi-Nice products! Are those compatible with neck braces?
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5/4/2010 2:03pm
Shenzi wrote:
I am showing ours, but there are products made by other companies too. The thing is that the properly articulate products exist, the properly breathable products...
I am showing ours, but there are products made by other companies too. The thing is that the properly articulate products exist, the properly breathable products exist.

http://www.dainese.com/us_en/motorbike/thorax.html?cat=41

http://www.dainese.com/us_en/motorbike/armour-pro.html?cat=41

http://www.dainese.com/us_en/motorbike/paraschiena-wave-con-scapole.htm…

anyway, I posted already the photos before, as well as the work and studies that lead to the design of our products - again, others do that too in Europe - but no one gives a shit. You guys all come with the same crying threads every time someone gets hurt, every time someone passes away, every time someone gets maimed. The same threads all over again.

Anyway, Stevee401, you are absolutely right, it is kindda silly.

Finally... something to accentuate the lady lumps!


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5/4/2010 2:39pm Edited Date/Time 5/4/2010 4:00pm
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5/4/2010 2:47pm
I have a friend that actually got injured worse from wearing one, I know I know smart off, but he broke some ribs and broke his...
I have a friend that actually got injured worse from wearing one, I know I know smart off, but he broke some ribs and broke his collarbone, and the doc told him the collarbone was from the chest pro, I dont remember what kind he was using.
ok lets see how this can even come close to being proven. heres a diagram i made for you. describe how it is possible a chest protector can cause a broken collerbone. i've heard people say the same thing before. i'll wait.

5/4/2010 2:50pm
Who cares? If he felt like he needed one I'm sure he'd use it.
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5/4/2010 2:51pm
I'm not disagreeing that some would be better than none, but with broken ribs that some isn't going to make much difference. That shits still going...
I'm not disagreeing that some would be better than none, but with broken ribs that some isn't going to make much difference. That shits still going to hurt and hurt bad. Do we know he isn't wearing anything under his jersey? Is he taped up?
If he would have been wearing a chest protector in the beginning, the impact would have been distributed over a larger area and he may not have broke his ribs only brused them or mabey be fine. Plastic that distributes a sharp, highly localized impact is almost always preferable to a sharp pointed impact.
5/4/2010 3:06pm
I'm not disagreeing that some would be better than none, but with broken ribs that some isn't going to make much difference. That shits still going...
I'm not disagreeing that some would be better than none, but with broken ribs that some isn't going to make much difference. That shits still going to hurt and hurt bad. Do we know he isn't wearing anything under his jersey? Is he taped up?
yamazuki wrote:
If he would have been wearing a chest protector in the beginning, the impact would have been distributed over a larger area and he may not...
If he would have been wearing a chest protector in the beginning, the impact would have been distributed over a larger area and he may not have broke his ribs only brused them or mabey be fine. Plastic that distributes a sharp, highly localized impact is almost always preferable to a sharp pointed impact.
If and maybe, you are correct.
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I won't ride without one of these anymore....








rxrprotect.com







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5/4/2010 3:30pm
motokiwi wrote:
Hill doesnt even wear a neck brace.
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RCC104 wrote:
I won't ride without one of these anymore.... [img]http://www.rxr-proshop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/r/x/rxr_promodel_2009_.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.rxr-proshop.com/skin/frontend/default/default/images/homepage_gif.gif[/img] [url=http://www.rxrprotect.com]rxrprotect.com[/url]



I won't ride without one of these anymore....








rxrprotect.com







do those get it a lot hotter?
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RCC104 wrote:
I won't ride without one of these anymore.... [img]http://www.rxr-proshop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/r/x/rxr_promodel_2009_.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.rxr-proshop.com/skin/frontend/default/default/images/homepage_gif.gif[/img] [url=http://www.rxrprotect.com]rxrprotect.com[/url]



I won't ride without one of these anymore....








rxrprotect.com







rmpilot wrote:
do those get it a lot hotter?



They are a little warmer, but, for me personally, I don't even notice that anymore. I've been wearing them since 2007 now. I've crashed enough in these things over the last few years to know its worth being a little warmer and looking a little different out on the track as a trade off for real protection.


5/4/2010 7:02pm
I have an RXR and like it a lot too. I don't notice extra heat when wearing it, but if it's a hot day it will swell up (hot air expands) and fit tighter until you loosen the straps.
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5/4/2010 7:12pm Edited Date/Time 5/4/2010 7:12pm
rmpilot wrote:
do those get it a lot hotter?
I soak my jersey in water (or ice water if I have it) and have run mine in 107 degree heat in fifteen minute motos with no overheating issues.
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5/4/2010 9:02pm
Let's just say Hill was wearing a chest pro and didn't break anything. I wonder how much more money he would of made this year and maybe next? This poor choice in my opinion might cost the guy a ride and a lot of money. Is wearing a chest pro really going to slow him down? Just wear one and get used to it. Why don't you take your helmet off too? I like the guy but can't understand why these guys don't wear them.
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5/4/2010 10:35pm
My dad still has his old AXO chest protector where the plastic has melted in the back when the rear tire landed on him and the bike was stuck WFO.

I was wearing a chest protector when I endoed my 85 into the face of the next jump. I landed so hard I collapsed the subframe with my back. Knocked the wind out of me but I believe it really helped distribute the impact force.

Last example. I crashed really hard over a tabletop one time and landed on my shoulder. The webbing in the shoulder cups of my Fox Protector tore off and I escaped with nothing more than soreness and a mangled hand. I landed in the exact same way during a rugby game and broke my collarbone, from only 3 feet up.

I don't need a whole lot of scientific data or test results to tell me that something hard between me and the ground will help, it's just common sense. If you aren't smart enough to protect yourself, then deal with it when you get hurt.


Stupid hurts.
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5/4/2010 10:42pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 10:37pm
I wish I had one on during this crash! Ended up with a cracked sternum and 5 cracked ribs.



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5/5/2010 12:22am
Me and my brother were talking about that the other day. If it was really that bad he would have been wearing a chest protector after the ribs were broken. You have to be ignorant to say a chest protector doesnt help! IMO a chest protector is a better piece of safety equipment than a neck brace. I saw a leatt brace destroy my brothers collarbones with some slow easy crashes.

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