The Ukraine is in a tight spot

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$175 BILLION in to this nightmare...that's the USA's contribution.

And...what's become of it...?

This shit needs to stop.

We should have given them the Polish F16s TWO YEARS AGO...Joe fucked that up.

We should have NOT have said a damn thing about Ukraine hitting TARGETS INSIDE OF RUSSIA...Joe fucked that up.

We should have given them the weps to shoot down enemy aircraft at longer ranges and with the latest tracking capabilities at the VERY START OF THIS SHIT!!! Again, Joe fucked that up.

I'll say it, again...

It's as if certain people WANT this war to go on.

That is completely fucked up.

#FJB

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TeamGreen wrote:
$175 BILLION in to this nightmare...that's the USA's contribution. And...what's become of it...? This shit needs to stop. We should have given them the Polish F16s...

$175 BILLION in to this nightmare...that's the USA's contribution.

And...what's become of it...?

This shit needs to stop.

We should have given them the Polish F16s TWO YEARS AGO...Joe fucked that up.

We should have NOT have said a damn thing about Ukraine hitting TARGETS INSIDE OF RUSSIA...Joe fucked that up.

We should have given them the weps to shoot down enemy aircraft at longer ranges and with the latest tracking capabilities at the VERY START OF THIS SHIT!!! Again, Joe fucked that up.

I'll say it, again...

It's as if certain people WANT this war to go on.

That is completely fucked up.

#FJB

Certain people huh?

😁😁

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6/28/2024 4:27am

Its ending thank Fuck. Never needed to be a war. Loads and loads of people didnt need to die. But a few sure got rich on the souls of the damned. 

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It is?

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ns503 wrote:

It is?

My first thought as well..

6/30/2024 5:22pm
ns503 wrote:

It is?

thewrizzle wrote:

My first thought as well..

I assume he posted that because it is a reasonable assumption Trump will win.

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ns503 wrote:

It is?

thewrizzle wrote:

My first thought as well..

I assume he posted that because it is a reasonable assumption Trump will win.

How are you guys coming to the conclusion that’ll make a decisive difference? Just curious…

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flarider wrote:
Is it me, or has this thread bogged down hard?? Too big? Maybe a new one needs starting, a part 2? A new stream on an...
Is it me, or has this thread bogged down hard?? Too big?

Maybe a new one needs starting, a part 2?



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Oh, the irony. That’s rich, coming from the guy that’s single handedly ruined this thread, every other thread, and Non-Moto in general.

Who Necro bumped this thread? 

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thewrizzle wrote:

My first thought as well..

I assume he posted that because it is a reasonable assumption Trump will win.

Twigster wrote:

How are you guys coming to the conclusion that’ll make a decisive difference? Just curious…

Because both Trump and RFK have said they will negotiate to end the war...not keep it going.

Maybe they can..maybe they can't.

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I assume he posted that because it is a reasonable assumption Trump will win.

Twigster wrote:

How are you guys coming to the conclusion that’ll make a decisive difference? Just curious…

Because both Trump and RFK have said they will negotiate to end the war...not keep it going.

Maybe they can..maybe they can't.

I mean, Putin is famous for negotiating in good faith so why not...

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You can't negotiate with Putin. If a negotiation can be made so that Ukraine joins NATO, then maybe. If that's off the table, Putin will simply roll right back in when he feels like it. 

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Falcon wrote:
You can't negotiate with Putin. If a negotiation can be made so that Ukraine joins NATO, then maybe. If that's off the table, Putin will simply...

You can't negotiate with Putin. If a negotiation can be made so that Ukraine joins NATO, then maybe. If that's off the table, Putin will simply roll right back in when he feels like it. 

NATO being in Ukraine is what kicked this war off in the first place.

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Falcon wrote:
You can't negotiate with Putin. If a negotiation can be made so that Ukraine joins NATO, then maybe. If that's off the table, Putin will simply...

You can't negotiate with Putin. If a negotiation can be made so that Ukraine joins NATO, then maybe. If that's off the table, Putin will simply roll right back in when he feels like it. 

NATO being in Ukraine is what kicked this war off in the first place.

Those that are spoon fed information do not realize this little factoid. 

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7/1/2024 12:57pm Edited Date/Time 7/1/2024 12:57pm
Zycki11 wrote:

Those that are spoon fed information do not realize this little factoid. 

The plan to avoid having another Nato member on Russias border failed spectacularly. 

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Ukraine is not a NATO member. That's what I meant. Whether there were NATO training exercises, support, or whatever in Ukraine is irrelevant to the "official" status. In other words, if Russia invades, there is no obligation to intervene. 

If Ukraine were a member state, Putin's actions would have triggered the clause that each member state protects the others. That's a powerful deterrent. 

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I agree with Trump, the U.S. should leave NATO. We’re not the World Police, nor the International War Bank.

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VL13 wrote:

I agree with Trump, the U.S. should leave NATO. We’re not the World Police, nor the International War Bank.

I don’t know about leave nato, but it needs restructuring 

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7/1/2024 10:47pm Edited Date/Time 7/1/2024 10:47pm

NATO is funds sucking clownshow, just look at Turkey. Reminds me of the League of Nations paper tiger vibe 

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VL13 wrote:

I agree with Trump, the U.S. should leave NATO. We’re not the World Police, nor the International War Bank.

Zycki11 wrote:

I don’t know about leave nato, but it needs restructuring 

Out of curiosity, to what?

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VL13 wrote:

I agree with Trump, the U.S. should leave NATO. We’re not the World Police, nor the International War Bank.

Zycki11 wrote:

I don’t know about leave nato, but it needs restructuring 

Twigster wrote:

Out of curiosity, to what?

Payment structure, and America basically telling Germany, France, Poland what to do.... Selling arms to them, selling medicine, etc.  Private sector is killing it because of Ukraine.  But we need some changes

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7/28/2024 11:26am Edited Date/Time 7/28/2024 11:26am

Wagner mercenaries took a big loss in Africa. Their convoy was attacked by locals, 80 dead and 15 taken captive. Russians already blame Ukrainian instructors.

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Wagner fighter who`s very active in social media known as Grey Zone, was part of convoy. Dead. He used to give pretty accurate info about Ukraine when Wagner was taking Bakhmut.

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7/28/2024 2:39pm

I wonder if the International Legion is slowing down w/volunteer, supplies, etc. Been out of the loop for the last half year of so. 

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This popped into my yahoo news feed.  Are they riding dirt bikes for tactical reasons or because they’re out of armored vehicles?


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Nighttrain wrote:
This popped into my yahoo news feed.  Are they riding dirt bikes for tactical reasons or because they’re out of armored vehicles?

This popped into my yahoo news feed.  Are they riding dirt bikes for tactical reasons or because they’re out of armored vehicles?


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If the RT news says that’s an actual war pic? 

That means it’s not. 🤣

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VL13 wrote:

I agree with Trump, the U.S. should leave NATO. We’re not the World Police, nor the International War Bank.

Sloth includes nihilism. If you see an injustice and have the ability to help and choose to do nothing, well...it's not a good thing. 

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Nighttrain wrote:
This popped into my yahoo news feed.  Are they riding dirt bikes for tactical reasons or because they’re out of armored vehicles?

This popped into my yahoo news feed.  Are they riding dirt bikes for tactical reasons or because they’re out of armored vehicles?


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TeamGreen wrote:

If the RT news says that’s an actual war pic? 

That means it’s not. 🤣

They do use bikes in combat a lot. In a last half a year I`ve seen dozens and dozens of videos of them getting blown up by drones.

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Nighttrain wrote:
This popped into my yahoo news feed.  Are they riding dirt bikes for tactical reasons or because they’re out of armored vehicles?

This popped into my yahoo news feed.  Are they riding dirt bikes for tactical reasons or because they’re out of armored vehicles?


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TeamGreen wrote:

If the RT news says that’s an actual war pic? 

That means it’s not. 🤣

kongols wrote:
They do use bikes in combat a lot. In a last half a year I`ve seen dozens and dozens of videos of them getting blown up...

They do use bikes in combat a lot. In a last half a year I`ve seen dozens and dozens of videos of them getting blown up by drones.

Seen those as well.  Also, a number of videos with the Russian riders just crashing on their own without the help of a 'nade dropped on their gourd.

 

One in particular, they were two up on a dirt bike and probably wrecked on their own 4 or 5 times, to the point the passenger just started walking. Then the suicide drone takes them out  Crazy shit.

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Seen those as well.  Also, a number of videos with the Russian riders just crashing on their own without the help of a 'nade dropped on...

Seen those as well.  Also, a number of videos with the Russian riders just crashing on their own without the help of a 'nade dropped on their gourd.

 

One in particular, they were two up on a dirt bike and probably wrecked on their own 4 or 5 times, to the point the passenger just started walking. Then the suicide drone takes them out  Crazy shit.

Those small little drones are the scariest thing to hit the battlefields since....ever.  Virtually no escaping them.  When (if they haven't already) make them autonomous...God help us.😵

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Those small little drones are the scariest thing to hit the battlefields since....ever.  Virtually no escaping them.  When (if they haven't already) make them autonomous...God help...

Those small little drones are the scariest thing to hit the battlefields since....ever.  Virtually no escaping them.  When (if they haven't already) make them autonomous...God help us.😵

AI commanded drones are straight out of Terminator and other Sci-Fi movies.  Likely already in play?

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