Will there ever be a dirt bike Made in USA?

lumpy790 wrote:

I remember when the Honda ATV’s and CR were being assembled there not sure how many years the CR line lasted though.

Dave v3.0 wrote:

Just the 1980 CR250 during that first year that Marysville, OH plant was open.  

-MAVERICK- wrote:

ando wrote:

High cost of living is the outcome of the demand for a high standard of living.  Infrastructure, health care, education, reliable agriculture, quality housing, modern transport...

High cost of living is the outcome of the demand for a high standard of living.  Infrastructure, health care, education, reliable agriculture, quality housing, modern transport etc are not cheap.  You can’t lower the cost of living without impacting those.

lumpy790 wrote:

I remember when the Honda ATV’s and CR were being assembled there not sure how many years the CR line lasted though.

Dave v3.0 wrote:

Just the 1980 CR250 during that first year that Marysville, OH plant was open.  

-MAVERICK- wrote:

ando wrote:

High cost of living is the outcome of the demand for a high standard of living.  Infrastructure, health care, education, reliable agriculture, quality housing, modern transport...

High cost of living is the outcome of the demand for a high standard of living.  Infrastructure, health care, education, reliable agriculture, quality housing, modern transport etc are not cheap.  You can’t lower the cost of living without impacting those.

Not hillbilly wrote:

Absolutely, but the current costs of most if not all of these things are way out of control compared to other developed nations. Take healthcare for...

Absolutely, but the current costs of most if not all of these things are way out of control compared to other developed nations. Take healthcare for example…

ando wrote:

High cost of living is the outcome of the demand for a high standard of living.  Infrastructure, health care, education, reliable agriculture, quality housing, modern transport...

High cost of living is the outcome of the demand for a high standard of living.  Infrastructure, health care, education, reliable agriculture, quality housing, modern transport etc are not cheap.  You can’t lower the cost of living without impacting those.

Not hillbilly wrote:

Absolutely, but the current costs of most if not all of these things are way out of control compared to other developed nations. Take healthcare for...

Absolutely, but the current costs of most if not all of these things are way out of control compared to other developed nations. Take healthcare for example…

Dave v3.0 wrote:

Could be why 75% of the night time advertising on the legacy TV networks is sponsored by Big Pharma. Here's list of current drugs being advertised. ...

Could be why 75% of the night time advertising on the legacy TV networks is sponsored by Big Pharma.

Here's list of current drugs being advertised.  Ask yourself when was the last time you saw one of these commercials.  And then ask yourself "If I NEED a drug, why are they having to ADVERTISE it to me?"​​​​​​

Veozah

Dupixent

Qlipta

Rinsupra

Xiidra

Rexulty

Bimzelx

Vraylar

Breztri

Wegovy

Jardiance

Austedo

Mounjaro

Zepbound

Vabysmo

Bimzelx

Preznar

Vygart

keytruda

Farsiga

Ozempic

Uqora

Optivo

Yervoy

Farsenra

Nurtek

Arexvy

Syfovre

Veozah

Preznar

Not hillbilly wrote:

Absolutely, but the current costs of most if not all of these things are way out of control compared to other developed nations. Take healthcare for...

Absolutely, but the current costs of most if not all of these things are way out of control compared to other developed nations. Take healthcare for example…

Dave v3.0 wrote:

Could be why 75% of the night time advertising on the legacy TV networks is sponsored by Big Pharma. Here's list of current drugs being advertised. ...

Could be why 75% of the night time advertising on the legacy TV networks is sponsored by Big Pharma.

Here's list of current drugs being advertised.  Ask yourself when was the last time you saw one of these commercials.  And then ask yourself "If I NEED a drug, why are they having to ADVERTISE it to me?"​​​​​​

Veozah

Dupixent

Qlipta

Rinsupra

Xiidra

Rexulty

Bimzelx

Vraylar

Breztri

Wegovy

Jardiance

Austedo

Mounjaro

Zepbound

Vabysmo

Bimzelx

Preznar

Vygart

keytruda

Farsiga

Ozempic

Uqora

Optivo

Yervoy

Farsenra

Nurtek

Arexvy

Syfovre

Veozah

Preznar

The real Sasquatch wrote:

Should not be legal to advertise them.  I thought Dr.s were not supposed to reward patients with a prescription for the drugs they ask for. Isn't...

Should not be legal to advertise them.  I thought Dr.s were not supposed to reward patients with a prescription for the drugs they ask for. Isn't that   Drug seeking .  

 

Being hurt with Health insurance , and then being hurt without insurance showed me a window into how messed up the system is. Insurance co's only pay a % of a bill, so then You get Bills raised up so that the Dr.s get paid what they need to be paid. And it just goes crazy from there.

 

The real Sasquatch wrote:

I've been hoping that Can-am would get back into making Dirtbikes. Artic Cat had a 450 snow bike they were developing at one point.   The US...

I've been hoping that Can-am would get back into making Dirtbikes. Artic Cat had a 450 snow bike they were developing at one point.  

The US and Canadian  SXS's and ATV's might be selling well, and be high performance. But the Japanese versions are built to last and have fewer reliability issues than any of the North American made brands. For whatever reason the Japanese brands have decided not to build SXS's that are on the same level performance wise. They have some solid offerings. But nothing in the same class as those 30K SXS's . Rumor is that Kawasaki will have a supercharged Teryx . That might push it into the same class as the Pro XP and X3. But Can-am has their Maverick R with a 7 speed dual clutch trans and 200 HP, and a great chassis.  The Japanese brands do not have anything close when stock. 112 HP YXZ , similar for the Talon.  And on just about every forum for those 30K 40 50K Sxs's You'll see many people say that they wish that Honda ,Yamaha or Kawasaki would make something with Suspension and power on par with the Polaris and Can-am's . Many say that if there was a similar class machine that was from one of those brands they would jump on it. 

I don't know if the Japanese are not making anything  in that class because its so hard to make something that is not going to break every other ride. That has that power and suspension , with random guys beating the crap out of them.  Or maybe they want to stay conservative after Honda had their trouble with 3 wheelers and Yamaha with the Rhino. But for whatever reason, Polaris and Can-am , Speed SXS to a degree now, are just competing against each other.  I have a Wildcat XX and its under rated . Super strong and OK power. Ahead of its time. But without a turbo, people just don't consider it like they do the SXS's with big HP numbers and a payment plan with factory warranty and full coverage insurance. 

 

 A lot of words to pretty much say, those machines that are North American brands, do not have any competition from anybody but each other right now. 

I was hoping Alta was going to be around for  a longtime.  And I do hope that there is a US built MX bike in the future. I think that an Electric  MX bike might be easier to build in the US than a Gas powered bike. So many fewer parts to cast, machine , etc. I could see the electric MX bike market become like the bicycle market .  

The real Sasquatch wrote:

I've been hoping that Can-am would get back into making Dirtbikes. Artic Cat had a 450 snow bike they were developing at one point.   The US...

I've been hoping that Can-am would get back into making Dirtbikes. Artic Cat had a 450 snow bike they were developing at one point.  

The US and Canadian  SXS's and ATV's might be selling well, and be high performance. But the Japanese versions are built to last and have fewer reliability issues than any of the North American made brands. For whatever reason the Japanese brands have decided not to build SXS's that are on the same level performance wise. They have some solid offerings. But nothing in the same class as those 30K SXS's . Rumor is that Kawasaki will have a supercharged Teryx . That might push it into the same class as the Pro XP and X3. But Can-am has their Maverick R with a 7 speed dual clutch trans and 200 HP, and a great chassis.  The Japanese brands do not have anything close when stock. 112 HP YXZ , similar for the Talon.  And on just about every forum for those 30K 40 50K Sxs's You'll see many people say that they wish that Honda ,Yamaha or Kawasaki would make something with Suspension and power on par with the Polaris and Can-am's . Many say that if there was a similar class machine that was from one of those brands they would jump on it. 

I don't know if the Japanese are not making anything  in that class because its so hard to make something that is not going to break every other ride. That has that power and suspension , with random guys beating the crap out of them.  Or maybe they want to stay conservative after Honda had their trouble with 3 wheelers and Yamaha with the Rhino. But for whatever reason, Polaris and Can-am , Speed SXS to a degree now, are just competing against each other.  I have a Wildcat XX and its under rated . Super strong and OK power. Ahead of its time. But without a turbo, people just don't consider it like they do the SXS's with big HP numbers and a payment plan with factory warranty and full coverage insurance. 

 

 A lot of words to pretty much say, those machines that are North American brands, do not have any competition from anybody but each other right now. 

I was hoping Alta was going to be around for  a longtime.  And I do hope that there is a US built MX bike in the future. I think that an Electric  MX bike might be easier to build in the US than a Gas powered bike. So many fewer parts to cast, machine , etc. I could see the electric MX bike market become like the bicycle market .  

Tumic wrote:

The artic 450 was just a sherco with black plastic.