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4/16/2010 4:44pm
gosh .. very sorry pulledit.. stay strong.


I remember alot of rumors with that guy back in those pro source days when he was living in a motorhome on the property...

other inmates in prison have a special place for guys who fcut with kids I hear... just sayin.
4/16/2010 6:59pm
You know it, Muezh. This may kill me but I'm hoping it just makes a bunch of us stronger, ya know? Thank you for your kindness. I bought a bumper sticker that reads "WWBD"......what would Bubba do? I would like to fix it to say what WILL Bubba do?
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4/16/2010 7:18pm
I can not tell you folks how much a relief it is to communicate with all of you. My son is his first victim. That is...
I can not tell you folks how much a relief it is to communicate with all of you. My son is his first victim. That is how I know so much. He was not apart of the mx world. If you want to feel bad for someone, feel bad for his own children. The hell they are being put through over this is sickening. He is such a brainwasher and master manipulator. Even though I'm sickened beyond belief it is a relief to know there are good people like you guys that has open eyes and are willing to share their experiences. I thank you from the bottom of my heart. PROTECT OUR KIDS!
my prayers and thoughts are with your family.... it is pathetic when we trust someone to do good with our kids and they do the worst... I hope this guy burns in hell sooner vs later

I had a "trainer" for my kid and was promptly warned... do not let him out of your sight... needless to say,,, we left before the day was over...

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4/16/2010 7:29pm
pull that shit with my kid and i got something special for ya

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4/16/2010 7:49pm
SICKO's like this don't deserve to be shot, that is getting off easy. The best punishment for guys like this is a very long prison sentence wearing a "special" jumpsuit.

That "special" jumpsuit will read "I love and molest young children, that's why I'm here."

That local prison will have a doctor on premisis 24 hours a day that can save his life everytime the local inmates ruin his day and inflict their own justice. Just in time when he gets out of ICU, there is a new jumpsuit waiting for him. This weekly routine will last him a lifetime and "suffering' will take on a whole new meaning.
4/17/2010 5:12am
Rizzo, while that image is vivid and to the point, I have to agree. Having to be vulnerable to someone stronger than you that wants to hurt you........yes.........thats what you did to MY child........now it may very well happen to YOU (him). Why is it I almost feel pity for the guy? Please note the ALMOST.
4/17/2010 5:13am
I can not tell you folks how much a relief it is to communicate with all of you. My son is his first victim. That is...
I can not tell you folks how much a relief it is to communicate with all of you. My son is his first victim. That is how I know so much. He was not apart of the mx world. If you want to feel bad for someone, feel bad for his own children. The hell they are being put through over this is sickening. He is such a brainwasher and master manipulator. Even though I'm sickened beyond belief it is a relief to know there are good people like you guys that has open eyes and are willing to share their experiences. I thank you from the bottom of my heart. PROTECT OUR KIDS!
flyfishnw wrote:
my prayers and thoughts are with your family.... it is pathetic when we trust someone to do good with our kids and they do the worst...
my prayers and thoughts are with your family.... it is pathetic when we trust someone to do good with our kids and they do the worst... I hope this guy burns in hell sooner vs later

I had a "trainer" for my kid and was promptly warned... do not let him out of your sight... needless to say,,, we left before the day was over...

Thank you and good for you!
4/17/2010 5:15am
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gosh .. very sorry pulledit.. stay strong. I remember alot of rumors with that guy back in those pro source days when he was living in...
gosh .. very sorry pulledit.. stay strong.


I remember alot of rumors with that guy back in those pro source days when he was living in a motorhome on the property...

other inmates in prison have a special place for guys who fcut with kids I hear... just sayin.
Yeah, I'm trying. You folks are giving me a lot of strength. Who'd a thunk I would have found support on a motocross board and I don't race? laughing........ You guys are great and are helping me tremendously. Yep, I keep hearing about his "past." ::::::;;shuddering::::::::
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4/17/2010 5:44am
If this happened to one of my kids. The guy would be dead and I would be a hero in prison.

You are a calmer person than me pulled it.
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4/17/2010 8:18am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 10:11pm
This makes me so DAMNED mad i cant fucking stand it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll be praying for ALL the victims & their families to find peace & closure & for a healthy life. I feel for ya.....In my early 20's, I was renting an apartment from an old family friend who was always rumored to be gay, but I didnt believe it. One evening I was at his place paying my rent & he asked me if Id like a beer. Sure nuff, 3 beers later he reaches out & grabs my junk !!!!! I promptly walk out the door & start looking for a new place to live. A few years later, there was a big stink about some young guy(a renter of his) beating the shit out of him & the kid getting shot & killed! The old bastard got off on self defense..............
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4/17/2010 10:52am
This is very disturbing. My thought and prayers go out to the victims and their families. I too have children of my own and the thought of this kind of thing really makes me sick.
I worked with Dave Mack for a while some 30 years ago. I had no problems with him, but I really didn't know him outside of work other than to see him at the track. He just seemed like kind of a loner. Years later, after I dropped out of racing for several years, I did hear rumors though. The justice system will hopefully deal with him.
4/17/2010 11:47am
43roost wrote:
This makes me so DAMNED mad i cant fucking stand it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll be praying for ALL the victims & their families to find peace &...
This makes me so DAMNED mad i cant fucking stand it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll be praying for ALL the victims & their families to find peace & closure & for a healthy life. I feel for ya.....In my early 20's, I was renting an apartment from an old family friend who was always rumored to be gay, but I didnt believe it. One evening I was at his place paying my rent & he asked me if Id like a beer. Sure nuff, 3 beers later he reaches out & grabs my junk !!!!! I promptly walk out the door & start looking for a new place to live. A few years later, there was a big stink about some young guy(a renter of his) beating the shit out of him & the kid getting shot & killed! The old bastard got off on self defense..............
I don't have much time to post right now but I want to say I'm sorry for what happened to you. You are brave for telling your story. The hiding needs to stop. The victims are victims for a reason, they shouldn't have to live thinking it's "their" fault. Mine did think it was his fault. He is terrorized to this day with those thoughts. He is ruined. His future is bleak. Tears.......
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4/17/2010 12:45pm
That guy should've been a Catholic Priest. Then, none of this would have happened . . . to him.
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4/17/2010 1:50pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 10:11pm
I'm in graduate school to become a psycho-therapist. What I've read in this thread lines up with everything I've learned. People that often do this sort of stuff are repeat offenders. Buying them a prostitute won't fix anything. They are sexually attracted to younger people the same way you all are sexually attracted to your wives, girlfriends, or playboy playmates. Usually, they were molested younger as a child, and it just wires their brain wrong. That probably doesn't make sense to us, but them again, we weren't molested. It also doesn't justify their behavior as acceptable. People that do this, are often very good at it, and actually more kids get molested each year than receive braces. They often pray and groom on specific targets. Some men will marry women, just to groom their wives younger daughter etc.


With this guy being a past L.L. champion, he probably had some well established reputation in the motocross community. Not all, but I assume some people were impressed by it. It was also stated he prayed on the quite types. That too, just shows his level of deceptiveness and expertise in what he was doing. Many times these sexual predators are pretty good at picking out their targets. If anyone noticed in the news, there was actually a pediatrician who molested over 400 kids. He provided free health care services to poorer families, and took advantage of them. People blindly trust authority, and kids often blindly trust adults.


It's a sick world, take precaution if you have children. More times than not, children are molested/raped by people they trust, friends, family members, etc. In this case, the guy established motocross relationships, kids trusted him, and he abused that trust, and them. Also, trust your instincts. If you have children and get a bad vibe from someone, even if everyone is telling you things are okay, you know yourself, and children better than anyone else, so listen to yourself, and remove them from that environment.



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4/17/2010 1:51pm
Rizzo, while that image is vivid and to the point, I have to agree. Having to be vulnerable to someone stronger than you that wants to...
Rizzo, while that image is vivid and to the point, I have to agree. Having to be vulnerable to someone stronger than you that wants to hurt you........yes.........thats what you did to MY child........now it may very well happen to YOU (him). Why is it I almost feel pity for the guy? Please note the ALMOST.
Almost...... is because you were raised right and you have compassion for people, regardless. I'm like cygnus, that fuck would be dead or chopped up in my freezer and I'd be in prison on the look for newbies that came in for the same crime so we could "hang out."

http://www.cbs8.com/Global/story.asp?S=12326318

You see these 2 families in San Diego, the more recent was the HS runner. This guy is a POS and traded info with authorities to avoid death penalty. The one girl was missing for more than a year and this MoFo is playing "go fish." This POS needs the "special jumpsuit" more than any of them.
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4/17/2010 1:59pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 10:11pm
43roost wrote:
This makes me so DAMNED mad i cant fucking stand it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll be praying for ALL the victims & their families to find peace &...
This makes me so DAMNED mad i cant fucking stand it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll be praying for ALL the victims & their families to find peace & closure & for a healthy life. I feel for ya.....In my early 20's, I was renting an apartment from an old family friend who was always rumored to be gay, but I didnt believe it. One evening I was at his place paying my rent & he asked me if Id like a beer. Sure nuff, 3 beers later he reaches out & grabs my junk !!!!! I promptly walk out the door & start looking for a new place to live. A few years later, there was a big stink about some young guy(a renter of his) beating the shit out of him & the kid getting shot & killed! The old bastard got off on self defense..............
I don't have much time to post right now but I want to say I'm sorry for what happened to you. You are brave for telling...
I don't have much time to post right now but I want to say I'm sorry for what happened to you. You are brave for telling your story. The hiding needs to stop. The victims are victims for a reason, they shouldn't have to live thinking it's "their" fault. Mine did think it was his fault. He is terrorized to this day with those thoughts. He is ruined. His future is bleak. Tears.......
I'm very saddened to read about both of these stories.

Pulleditoutofahateh,

if your child isn't already in counseling, I would highly encourage it. I can't imagine how extremely difficult this time is for all of you, but there is light at the end of the tunnel. I have two good friends who were molested as a child, and they live normal happy lives, today. What happened to them is something they can't forget, and something still difficult for them to discuss, but they are still able to live good lives. One is a female high school teacher, and the other friend is a library director. I just felt like sharing this with you, because I want you to know he is not ruined, and he still has a bright future. I pray for you, your family, and your child's strength in overcoming this overwhelming life hurdle.
4/17/2010 4:51pm
I'm very saddened to read about both of these stories.Pulleditoutofahateh,if your child isn't already in counseling, I would highly encourage it. I can't imagine...
I'm very saddened to read about both of these stories.

Pulleditoutofahateh,

if your child isn't already in counseling, I would highly encourage it. I can't imagine how extremely difficult this time is for all of you, but there is light at the end of the tunnel. I have two good friends who were molested as a child, and they live normal happy lives, today. What happened to them is something they can't forget, and something still difficult for them to discuss, but they are still able to live good lives. One is a female high school teacher, and the other friend is a library director. I just felt like sharing this with you, because I want you to know he is not ruined, and he still has a bright future. I pray for you, your family, and your child's strength in overcoming this overwhelming life hurdle.
I had him in counseling immediately. It was already too late. He is dealing with a male/male situation and what that represents to his sexuality, I'm guessing. He is into drugs and alcohol and has no incline whatsoever to have a goal. He has already been in jail and now lives with his other parent. He refused to talk in counseling, I even had him placed in a boys academy and he failed the program. You even say D. Mack and he freaks and takes off for days at a time. Wake him from a sound sleep? He comes at you with fists. Nightmare is an understatement. He (Mack) picked the ONE kid of mine that just wasn't strong enough. The other ones would have fought him and fought for a life. Maybe time will help, I don't know. I just keep praying.
4/17/2010 4:52pm
Rizzo, while that image is vivid and to the point, I have to agree. Having to be vulnerable to someone stronger than you that wants to...
Rizzo, while that image is vivid and to the point, I have to agree. Having to be vulnerable to someone stronger than you that wants to hurt you........yes.........thats what you did to MY child........now it may very well happen to YOU (him). Why is it I almost feel pity for the guy? Please note the ALMOST.
Rizzo wrote:
Almost...... is because you were raised right and you have compassion for people, regardless. I'm like cygnus, that fuck would be dead or chopped up in...
Almost...... is because you were raised right and you have compassion for people, regardless. I'm like cygnus, that fuck would be dead or chopped up in my freezer and I'd be in prison on the look for newbies that came in for the same crime so we could "hang out."

http://www.cbs8.com/Global/story.asp?S=12326318

You see these 2 families in San Diego, the more recent was the HS runner. This guy is a POS and traded info with authorities to avoid death penalty. The one girl was missing for more than a year and this MoFo is playing "go fish." This POS needs the "special jumpsuit" more than any of them.
Trust me, my faith has been shaken but made stronger. I believe there is a reason this has happened and I have a purpose in stopping it. Maybe I'm just full of S$%^ too Smile
4/17/2010 4:53pm
I'm in graduate school to become a psycho-therapist. What I've read in this thread lines up with everything I've learned. People that often do this sort...
I'm in graduate school to become a psycho-therapist. What I've read in this thread lines up with everything I've learned. People that often do this sort of stuff are repeat offenders. Buying them a prostitute won't fix anything. They are sexually attracted to younger people the same way you all are sexually attracted to your wives, girlfriends, or playboy playmates. Usually, they were molested younger as a child, and it just wires their brain wrong. That probably doesn't make sense to us, but them again, we weren't molested. It also doesn't justify their behavior as acceptable. People that do this, are often very good at it, and actually more kids get molested each year than receive braces. They often pray and groom on specific targets. Some men will marry women, just to groom their wives younger daughter etc.


With this guy being a past L.L. champion, he probably had some well established reputation in the motocross community. Not all, but I assume some people were impressed by it. It was also stated he prayed on the quite types. That too, just shows his level of deceptiveness and expertise in what he was doing. Many times these sexual predators are pretty good at picking out their targets. If anyone noticed in the news, there was actually a pediatrician who molested over 400 kids. He provided free health care services to poorer families, and took advantage of them. People blindly trust authority, and kids often blindly trust adults.


It's a sick world, take precaution if you have children. More times than not, children are molested/raped by people they trust, friends, family members, etc. In this case, the guy established motocross relationships, kids trusted him, and he abused that trust, and them. Also, trust your instincts. If you have children and get a bad vibe from someone, even if everyone is telling you things are okay, you know yourself, and children better than anyone else, so listen to yourself, and remove them from that environment.



I'm thinking seriously about becoming a psychologist or a victims rights advocate. This has become my passion in life. Educate yourself, educate your kids and STOP hiding the dirty little secret that isn't and NEVER WAS YOUR FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4/17/2010 4:58pm
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If this happened to one of my kids. The guy would be dead and I would be a hero in prison. You are a calmer person...
If this happened to one of my kids. The guy would be dead and I would be a hero in prison.

You are a calmer person than me pulled it.
Oh no, I'm officially quite nuts. Don't mess with me and DON'T mess with my kids. I will see this to the end......however painful. I know lots of people that think the way you do but I think being vulnerable in prison is the perfect punishment. Death would be too easy. I want him to feel that fear...........but then, I feel guilty and ask "why?" Why would you do this and put yourself in this position of going to prison to be raped or beaten the rest of your life? I don't understand it. Is being a ped a illness? Is it like a compulsion they can't control? I want to understand but it's just so sickening.
4/17/2010 4:59pm
Court date coming up. Any supporters out there willing to show up? I would just love to see the look on his face if some of his racing crew showed up. Yeah, I can dream.......
4/17/2010 5:14pm
Seems like nothing shocks or surprises me any more in this world http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/video?id=7326381 TUSCOLA COUNTY (WJRT) -- (03/11/10)--A Motorcross enthusiast is in a Tuscola County Jail...
Seems like nothing shocks or surprises me any more in this world

http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/video?id=7326381

TUSCOLA COUNTY (WJRT) -- (03/11/10)--A Motorcross enthusiast is in a Tuscola County Jail on a parole violation. But there's more to the story.

Police are collecting evidence in a criminal sexual conduct investigation that spreads across the country and even into Canada.

They even found one potential victim in the same jail cell with the man whose accused of the crimes.

David Mack, 49, was first charged with criminal sexual conduct, but pleaded guilty to child abuse.

Investigators are now talking to three other victims, two of which have ties to the Motorcross world.

"We understand he interacted with a number of teenage boys in Motorcross," said Tuscola County Prosecutor Mark Reene.

Mack pleaded guilty to child abuse in 2008.

"(It) involved a 13-year-old victim," Reene said. "He had actually provided intoxicating beverages to the victim, and committed acts of molestation hereafter."

Reene says Mack spent a year in jail but violated his parole last month when he failed to get sex offender treatment. When Mack was put in his jail cell, Reene says something unusual happened.

"One of the strangest things that we've experienced," he said. "While he is being lodged in the cell, somebody that is already there identifies him as a person that molested him previously."

A corrections officer was called in and the two men were separated. Two more alleged victims are talking to police in Lapeer and Canada, claiming Mack molested them.

At least two of the victims met Mack through Motorcross activity.

"He worked with the motorcycles, showing the boys how to ride, acting as a mechanic, that sort of thing," Reene said.

A family member of the first boy Mack was convicted of molesting worries about other victims.

"Kids there, they can't defend themselves," the family member said. "They need someone to defend them, and I'm going to try to do that as best I can."

Reene is asking anyone with information that might be helpful in this investigation to give the Michigan State Police in Lapeer a phone call.


(Copyright ©2010 WJRT-TV/DT. All Rights Reserved.)
I could be very mistaken but mine is on the quiet side. I didn't mean to put every victim in one type of package. I apologize.
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4/17/2010 5:51pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2010 5:53pm
I'm very saddened to read about both of these stories.Pulleditoutofahateh,if your child isn't already in counseling, I would highly encourage it. I can't imagine...
I'm very saddened to read about both of these stories.

Pulleditoutofahateh,

if your child isn't already in counseling, I would highly encourage it. I can't imagine how extremely difficult this time is for all of you, but there is light at the end of the tunnel. I have two good friends who were molested as a child, and they live normal happy lives, today. What happened to them is something they can't forget, and something still difficult for them to discuss, but they are still able to live good lives. One is a female high school teacher, and the other friend is a library director. I just felt like sharing this with you, because I want you to know he is not ruined, and he still has a bright future. I pray for you, your family, and your child's strength in overcoming this overwhelming life hurdle.
I had him in counseling immediately. It was already too late. He is dealing with a male/male situation and what that represents to his sexuality, I'm...
I had him in counseling immediately. It was already too late. He is dealing with a male/male situation and what that represents to his sexuality, I'm guessing. He is into drugs and alcohol and has no incline whatsoever to have a goal. He has already been in jail and now lives with his other parent. He refused to talk in counseling, I even had him placed in a boys academy and he failed the program. You even say D. Mack and he freaks and takes off for days at a time. Wake him from a sound sleep? He comes at you with fists. Nightmare is an understatement. He (Mack) picked the ONE kid of mine that just wasn't strong enough. The other ones would have fought him and fought for a life. Maybe time will help, I don't know. I just keep praying.
That is very tough to hear, and I've never even met you Sad You should know you're an incredible father though, for sticking behind your son like you have. Keep doing what you're doing, you know what's best. Its pretty tough to hear the other side to all this. All you see on this news are the perpetrator, but you rarely hear about the consequences of their actions. Also, I encourage you to become a victim's rights advocate or therapist, for real! The ones who have lived it, are often the best at helping those who are living it at the moment.
4/17/2010 7:33pm
Sex offenders should be castrated. Seriously.
4/17/2010 7:37pm
Wow. I'm literally heartbroken after reading through this thread.
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4/17/2010 10:51pm
My wife was a victim of a man close to the family that fondled her when she was 9. At the time it was like a dirty secret "it won't happen again" This guy was a close friend of her grandmothers, she swept it under the rug. Her cousins thought she making it up so she kept it quiet. My FIL would most likely have beat him to death so he was kept out of it. So in the middle 60's this kind of thing was a misdemeanor. She had a few issues that she was finally able to over come, mostly I think from not feeling protected after it happened but she has it all behind her and used it as a lesson in protecting our kids coming up.
My former brother in law is a 2x registered sex offender that has my sister and nephew totally f'ed in the head due to his controlling and manipulating for 20 years. I also got the creeps because he seemed to be especially interested in 1 of my 3 sons for a while. I can't begin to describe the mental damage he has done. Warning to people in Houston to Galveston area, that where we think he is. He ran like the coward he is when a top notch divorce lawyer gutted him in court. He should be on the RSO site for the state of Texas.
I went to jury duty a couple weeks ago and my reaction when the charges were read and the scumbag appeared were very physical. I had a full on fight or flight reaction. I asked to be excused because I new I would be prejudiced. I should have stayed on and made sure that he was convicted.
The gist of this rant is how badly I feel for all victims of these scum and why. It has been scarily close to home.
I know lots of people think California if F'ed up but there is a strong 1 strike movement for violent sex offenders. I hope we can vote on it in November.
I wish all victims my sincere hope they find the peace in their lives that was taken from them.
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4/17/2010 11:18pm
Sex offenders should be castrated. Seriously.
Seriously, as a huge humanitarian, and someone who doesn't even wish harm on turtles crossing the road, I would have to agree. I think if these people knew their johnson was at risk of being chopped off with an axe, I think these people would think more before they acted. Most offenders are male too, so it would be pretty easy. And don't even put them asleep when it gets chopped off. Stand them up next to a table, and drop the blade. Then throw them in prison. If they knew their sexual pleasure was at risk of termination, they would learn how to control themselves, for sure.
4/17/2010 11:23pm
Sex offenders should be castrated. Seriously.
Seriously, as a huge humanitarian, and someone who doesn't even wish harm on turtles crossing the road, I would have to agree. I think if these...
Seriously, as a huge humanitarian, and someone who doesn't even wish harm on turtles crossing the road, I would have to agree. I think if these people knew their johnson was at risk of being chopped off with an axe, I think these people would think more before they acted. Most offenders are male too, so it would be pretty easy. And don't even put them asleep when it gets chopped off. Stand them up next to a table, and drop the blade. Then throw them in prison. If they knew their sexual pleasure was at risk of termination, they would learn how to control themselves, for sure.
I believe castrating them is one of the most humanitarian things that can be done. I think a fire squad would be better since even if you castrate them they'd still do it. These sickos get off more on the control then they do the act. I just watched Alice and Wonderland last night with 3 of my girls and the red queen's favorite saying is "Off with his head".. As I was typing this all i could think was "off with their heads".
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4/17/2010 11:50pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 10:12pm
Sex offenders should be castrated. Seriously.
Seriously, as a huge humanitarian, and someone who doesn't even wish harm on turtles crossing the road, I would have to agree. I think if these...
Seriously, as a huge humanitarian, and someone who doesn't even wish harm on turtles crossing the road, I would have to agree. I think if these people knew their johnson was at risk of being chopped off with an axe, I think these people would think more before they acted. Most offenders are male too, so it would be pretty easy. And don't even put them asleep when it gets chopped off. Stand them up next to a table, and drop the blade. Then throw them in prison. If they knew their sexual pleasure was at risk of termination, they would learn how to control themselves, for sure.
i totally agree with you. these sickos arent afraid of the punishment anymore, they dont respect their victims or the law and they need to understand that if you rape or molest then you will be castrated and kept with general population.. no protective custody, now its your turn to see what its like when you have a full grown man forcing himself on you like the children you abused. I just cant get over the whole P.Custody issue, we protect the offenders from people that want to hurt them but they dont deserve it, when they prayed on innocent victims no one was there to protect them.

& to both of you guys thanks for having the courage to share your stories.... that takes a lot and i applaud you for your courage. You both are in my prayers!!!

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