2024 450 outdoors

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1. Jett

2. Chase

3. Coop

4. Dylan

5. AP

Seems like almost everyone agrees on 1-2. I believe Jett will win the overall championship again, but he will not go 22-0. I think Chase is coming back to '22 form. He looks confident and relaxed and more in-control than he ever was in '22-'23. Whatever they did during the off-week outdoor testing lit a fire under him for the last 3 rounds.

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seems like a very similar line up to last year..? If that is the case, is back to back perfect seasons a possibility? 

 

Hypothetical.. if he was to go 22-0 again.. wonder how far up the win list he moves.

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decano51 wrote:
seems like a very similar line up to last year..? If that is the case, is back to back perfect seasons a possibility?    Hypothetical.. if...

seems like a very similar line up to last year..? If that is the case, is back to back perfect seasons a possibility? 

 

Hypothetical.. if he was to go 22-0 again.. wonder how far up the win list he moves.

I don't think he will go 22-0 this year, but if he does he will join RC as the only other person to do it back-to-back.

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Jett out front, Chase pretty close more often then not while winning a race here and there. The battle behind them is anyone’s guess. 5 - 6 guys could be trading 3rd place alot which could be fun. Obviously someone will probably take over and be the 3rd best guy. Perhaps Hunter as he is peaking now, Anderson has always been underrated outdoors and DF is a 450 MX champ. One of those three would be my guess. 

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5/16/2024 5:21pm Edited Date/Time 5/16/2024 5:47pm
decano51 wrote:
seems like a very similar line up to last year..? If that is the case, is back to back perfect seasons a possibility?    Hypothetical.. if...

seems like a very similar line up to last year..? If that is the case, is back to back perfect seasons a possibility? 

 

Hypothetical.. if he was to go 22-0 again.. wonder how far up the win list he moves.

ChiefLPD wrote:

I don't think he will go 22-0 this year, but if he does he will join RC as the only other person to do it back-to-back.

RC didn't have back to back perfect seasons. 

2002 CR 250

2004 CRF 450

Edit: Typo

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decano51 wrote:
seems like a very similar line up to last year..? If that is the case, is back to back perfect seasons a possibility?    Hypothetical.. if...

seems like a very similar line up to last year..? If that is the case, is back to back perfect seasons a possibility? 

 

Hypothetical.. if he was to go 22-0 again.. wonder how far up the win list he moves.

ChiefLPD wrote:

I don't think he will go 22-0 this year, but if he does he will join RC as the only other person to do it back-to-back.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

RC didn't have back to back perfect seasons. 

2002 CR 250

2004 CRF 450

Edit: Typo

I had to look back at the years. You are correct sir.

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Jett

Chase

Dylan 

AP

Jett's brother

 

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5/17/2024 8:27am Edited Date/Time 5/17/2024 8:27am

Jett

Chase

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Hunter Lawrence

Justin Cooper

Dylan Ferrandis

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5/17/2024 12:31pm
Park Boys wrote:
Jett out front, Chase pretty close more often then not while winning a race here and there. The battle behind them is anyone’s guess. 5 -...

Jett out front, Chase pretty close more often then not while winning a race here and there. The battle behind them is anyone’s guess. 5 - 6 guys could be trading 3rd place alot which could be fun. Obviously someone will probably take over and be the 3rd best guy. Perhaps Hunter as he is peaking now, Anderson has always been underrated outdoors and DF is a 450 MX champ. One of those three would be my guess. 

Won't be Anderson. Pure SX rider.

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decano51 wrote:
seems like a very similar line up to last year..? If that is the case, is back to back perfect seasons a possibility?    Hypothetical.. if...

seems like a very similar line up to last year..? If that is the case, is back to back perfect seasons a possibility? 

 

Hypothetical.. if he was to go 22-0 again.. wonder how far up the win list he moves.

ChiefLPD wrote:

I don't think he will go 22-0 this year, but if he does he will join RC as the only other person to do it back-to-back.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

RC didn't have back to back perfect seasons. 

2002 CR 250

2004 CRF 450

Edit: Typo

Kind of though as he went 12-0 in 2005 but did drop two motos, and as a huge Windham fan it pains me to admit that RC is a 450 away from most likely having another perfect season in 2003. 

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5/17/2024 1:21pm
Park Boys wrote:
Jett out front, Chase pretty close more often then not while winning a race here and there. The battle behind them is anyone’s guess. 5 -...

Jett out front, Chase pretty close more often then not while winning a race here and there. The battle behind them is anyone’s guess. 5 - 6 guys could be trading 3rd place alot which could be fun. Obviously someone will probably take over and be the 3rd best guy. Perhaps Hunter as he is peaking now, Anderson has always been underrated outdoors and DF is a 450 MX champ. One of those three would be my guess. 

Won't be Anderson. Pure SX rider.

Anderson won multiple motos in different years before winning two overalls in 2023. I feel like he gets lumped in with Webb a bit outdoors which is unfair to Anderson. He has shown plenty of speed over the years outside. 

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5/17/2024 2:06pm
Park Boys wrote:
Anderson won multiple motos in different years before winning two overalls in 2023. I feel like he gets lumped in with Webb a bit outdoors which...

Anderson won multiple motos in different years before winning two overalls in 2023. I feel like he gets lumped in with Webb a bit outdoors which is unfair to Anderson. He has shown plenty of speed over the years outside. 

His two and only overall mx victories were in 2022.

And honestly, I dont remember him winning "multiple motos" in the past...

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5/17/2024 2:22pm

Although I'm a Hunter fan, I can't deny JCoop is just as fast, and is consistently a better starter.

I didn't rate AP due to him missing the start of the season, and Ferradis will lack consistency due to all sorts of issues.

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5/17/2024 3:35pm

Jett, Chase, Hunter,  Dylan, and Justin Cooper.  I think that's the same order I put them in the other thread.

I wonder if Hunter might have started getting into his Outdoor flow earlier than some of the others since he was not in the hunt for the title.  Sexton should be second, but who knows how he will end up . If he is still having to figure out the setup he might be off the podium at the first rounds.  I'm hoping that Hunter and Justin are able to carry some momentum from their recent improvements in SX over to the outdoors.  

 

I could be way off on some of those guys.  I feel most confident about Jett  and Justin Cooper.   Chase and Dylan  could struggle and chase bike setup or have a great race. Hunter falls between the 2 extremes as far as my confidence in picking his results.

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Park Boys wrote:
Anderson won multiple motos in different years before winning two overalls in 2023. I feel like he gets lumped in with Webb a bit outdoors which...

Anderson won multiple motos in different years before winning two overalls in 2023. I feel like he gets lumped in with Webb a bit outdoors which is unfair to Anderson. He has shown plenty of speed over the years outside. 

His two and only overall mx victories were in 2022.

And honestly, I dont remember him winning "multiple motos" in the past...

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You’re right I was off by a year on his wins. I know he won the first moto of 2020, I remember him winning a moto at Glen Helen and Tennessee as well in 2017. Perhaps he has won more I just can’t remember. He has 25 podiums on a 450 outdoors, he had 10 second places before his first Win. He was close a bunch, Tomac always kept him from winning it seemed. 

5/17/2024 3:56pm

People must not watch MXDN.  Anderson beat Herlings straight up in Italy and then proceeded to get landed on.  Dudes a warrior 

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5/17/2024 4:26pm

I brought it up earlier this week how everyone is glossing over Ando. Likes he's out of his depths outdoors. It's just not true. He had 7 or 8 podiums in '22, with 2 of those being wins. He came into the '23 season injured, missing the first 4 races. But worked his way back on to the podium a couple times by the end of the summer. I see him and Dylan battling for the last podium spot ahead of Hunter and JCoop

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People must not watch MXDN.  Anderson beat Herlings straight up in Italy and then proceeded to get landed on.  Dudes a warrior 

That was eight years ago and it was Herling's first ride on the 450.  Peak Herlings would absolutely smoke JA. 

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People must not watch MXDN.  Anderson beat Herlings straight up in Italy and then proceeded to get landed on.  Dudes a warrior 

Herr Lich wrote:

That was eight years ago and it was Herling's first ride on the 450.  Peak Herlings would absolutely smoke JA. 

Since you're bringing up "eight years ago," peak Herlings was about 4yrs ago

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5/17/2024 7:22pm

I believe Marchbanks is on a 250. I thought Phil said that on a Pulp episode.  I could be wrong though

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450 outdoor. 250 indoor

Great, I'd rather see him on a 450. I swore Phil said that. I'm happy to be wrong. Garret is a big dude for a 250...

Great, I'd rather see him on a 450. I swore Phil said that. I'm happy to be wrong. Garret is a big dude for a 250 outdoors to be going up against kids that weigh 140-150lbs

They were talking about Marchbanks going back to Pro Circuit next year, which will mean he’ll be on a 250 indoors and outdoors.  

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soggy wrote:

450 outdoor. 250 indoor

Great, I'd rather see him on a 450. I swore Phil said that. I'm happy to be wrong. Garret is a big dude for a 250...

Great, I'd rather see him on a 450. I swore Phil said that. I'm happy to be wrong. Garret is a big dude for a 250 outdoors to be going up against kids that weigh 140-150lbs

They were talking about Marchbanks going back to Pro Circuit next year, which will mean he’ll be on a 250 indoors and outdoors.  

Thank you! At least I know I'm not crazy lol

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5/18/2024 1:29am

People must not watch MXDN.  Anderson beat Herlings straight up in Italy and then proceeded to get landed on.  Dudes a warrior 

I know Maggiora track very well. Very difficult to pass. Results there are not always significant. Start extremely important to perform. 

5/18/2024 4:05am

People must not watch MXDN.  Anderson beat Herlings straight up in Italy and then proceeded to get landed on.  Dudes a warrior 

No, Anderson rolled the finish line jump underneath another still racing rider.

Dumb move he'll never do again.

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5/18/2024 4:09am

People must not watch MXDN.  Anderson beat Herlings straight up in Italy and then proceeded to get landed on.  Dudes a warrior 

No, Anderson rolled the finish line jump underneath another still racing rider.

Dumb move he'll never do again.

Im sure if that happened to jett you wouldn’t be singing that same tune 

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