EVS Evolution neck brace

That looks like a better design - it spreads the impact force over a larger, less crucial part of the rider's body (shoulders rather than sternum and back). EVS doesn't have it on their website yet.

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Different

Figures...just after I go buy a damn Leatt brace.

A couple months ago I was informed this was coming out and going to be at the Indy show, but did I wait? Nope, like 7636926262 other retards, I bought a Leatt brace when I got my new bike.

Well, nobody has seen the EVS one, it might be a POS. And look at it like this, anytime you say, "Just one more lap", you crash and hurt yourself. If you'd said, "I'll just ride without a brace for a little longer and see if someone comes up with something better", guess what would have happened.

If you already bought it, wear it and don't look back.

[quote="T-Fish123":2yoktfer]Figures...just after I go buy a damn Leatt brace.

A couple months ago I was informed this was coming out and going to be at the Indy show, but did I wait? Nope, like 7636926262 other retards, I bought a Leatt brace when I got my new bike.[/quote:2yoktfer]

You wear your Leatt when you play Untamed...don't you?

[quote="WhKnuckle":2tuw663g]If you'd said, "I'll just ride without a brace for a little longer and see if someone comes up with something better"[/quote:2tuw663g]



That's what I did this last season. I just figured I better get something, because with the way Leatt wrote their patent, it was anyones guess as to if and when someone else came up with something.



And huck, yes I do. If you think wearing the Leatt while playing is something, you should see me yank my tear-offs!

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That looks good!

The shoulders look like they would eliminate collarbone injury's.. Right? When I broke my collarbone it was right where the Leatt sits.. That looks like it would spread out the force of the impact..


Is EVS going to start pushing this with their riders? That would be cool to see..

[quote="WhKnuckle":2xuriu3c]That looks like a better design - it spreads the impact force over a larger, less crucial part of the rider's body (shoulders rather than sternum and back). EVS doesn't have it on their website yet.[/quote:2xuriu3c]
no doubt! this should take care of some of the issues that some on HMX brought up... definetly looks better designed than the leatt and the A-Star one... hopefully they'll be available real soon...

Any info on the one that Reed has been wearing?

[quote="Todder":p440wxnp]Any info on the one that Reed has been wearing?[/quote:p440wxnp]


It's moisture-friendly.

I dunno, had something to do with tears or something like that. But that's just what I heard.

Could be good, but looks quite a bit bulkier than the Leatt. One of the things that I like about the Leatt is that once it is on and your riding you don't notice that it is there. This one looks as though it might be more restrictive.

[quote="Todder":2d4th3p5]Any info on the one that Reed has been wearing?[/quote:2d4th3p5]

That is the A-Stars prototype that J. Alessi was wearing in the outdoors.

I just called Motosport outlet and they said they weren't expecting them until May.
They are taking pre-orders now.

wow that looks like the Cadillac of neck braces, didnt like the Leatt, i'm going try one of these.

[quote="MXRose3":260j89z5]I just called Motosport outlet and they said they weren't expecting them until May.
They are taking pre-orders now.[/quote:260j89z5]
did they give a price ?

[quote="luckyducker":1xsph482][quote="MXRose3":1xsph482]I just called Motosport outlet and they said they weren't expecting them until May.
They are taking pre-orders now.[/quote:1xsph482]
did they give a price ?[/quote:1xsph482]


$153.99

[quote="T-Fish123":1974ymod][quote="luckyducker":1974ymod][quote="MXRose3":1974ymod]I just called Motosport outlet and they said they weren't expecting them until May.
They are taking pre-orders now.[/quote:1974ymod]
did they give a price ?[/quote:1974ymod]


$153.99[/quote:1974ymod]

That's cheap. Will it actually work?

It does look like it will limit over extension towards the rear and the sides and they have the soft/absorbing part in the front. Interesting. The shoulders look very wide. Interesting to see that they have added "vents" on the shoulder parts. I can't really see the rear part but it looks like it has 2 different material. I hope that the lower back part is not a hard piece and somehow softer or bendable.

Looks like the cat's meow to me.

EVS RC-EVOLUTION
The race collar has EVOlved. Introducing the EVS RC-EVOLUTION race collar system. Providing the ultimate in neck protection, the RC-EVOLUTION has been designed from its inception with the assistance of top orthopedic professionals to reduce neck compression and extension related injuries (the cause of serious spinal chord damage). The RC- EVOLUTION has a customizable ergonomic fit that works with the rider to ensure comfort and maximum impact protection. Reducing overall weight and bulk, the vented design allows air to move freely through it, helping to keep you cool.

Why does the EVS RC-EVO do this better than other braces out there? The EVS RC-EVO offers more effective load transfer to the shoulders, and deals with filling the space between helmet and shoulders more effectively than other devices. It avoids putting unnecessary pressures on the upper body in otherwise benign crashes. Other plusses are the better simplicity of use, the way-easier adjustability, the lower weight, lower bulk (oh, yeah!), and: it works with OUR roost guards, but also with anybody else’s. And did we mention that it looks like a piece of high-tech art, moto jewelry, eye-candy. Stay in one piece, but in comfort and in style. And as usual, delivered to you straight from the leading global protection experts at EVS.

CALLOUTS:
Collar:
1. Modular collar for easy ergonomic fit
2. TPR frontal closure
3. Hook and loop connection for on-the-fly attachment and detachment
4. Adjustable height allows a customized fit
Chassis:
5. Soft rubberized leading edges for added comfort
6. Structural back and shoulder support
7. Mesh covered vents to increase airflow
8. Light weight design
9. No buckles, bolts or screws involved
Liner:
10. Soft hidden tether for optional chest protector attachment
11. Removable so you can pull it off and throw it in the wash
12. Vented liner has sculpted contours for breath-ability and airflow
Strap Attachment (removable):
13. Reinforced padded straps to keep the system secure
14. Buckle-less sternum strap (hook and loop) for micro size adjustment
Sizes:
Large (150-250lbs)
Medium (100-150lbs)
Youth (50-100lbs)

I work for a rather well known design group in Colorado, and, speaking from my experience, the EVS is just a flat-out rip off. How nice to profit off of the hard work and research of others. The least they could do is throw some NRE back at Leatt for all of the work that Leatt did.

you must have EVS confused with 661....

[quote="jtomasik":mbxi8x22]I work for a rather well known design group in Colorado, and, speaking from my experience, the EVS is just a flat-out rip off. How nice to profit off of the hard work and research of others. The least they could do is throw some NRE back at Leatt for all of the work that Leatt did.[/quote:mbxi8x22]

EVS had neck collars (the foam type) before LEATT did anything.
Did LEATT thank EVS, or any other neck protection company for expanding on this idea?
EVS is just expanding it more, IMO.

[quote="MXRose3":jrmwutjt]

EVS had neck collars (the foam type) before LEATT did anything.
Did LEATT thank EVS, or any other neck protection company for expanding on this idea?
EVS is just expanding it more, IMO.[/quote:jrmwutjt]


Nope, not even close. A neck collar does not come anywhere near the protection the Leatt does. The form of the Leatt is undeniably recognizable on its own, and it's substantially different than any neck collar. The new EVS is almost identical in form and function to the Leatt, and it is not substantially different as the Leatt is to previous generations of neck collars.

The comparison you're making is not accurate.

[quote="jtomasik":ntu2vmng][quote="MXRose3":ntu2vmng]

EVS had neck collars (the foam type) before LEATT did anything.
Did LEATT thank EVS, or any other neck protection company for expanding on this idea?
EVS is just expanding it more, IMO.[/quote:ntu2vmng]


Nope, not even close. A neck collar does not come anywhere near the protection the Leatt does. The form of the Leatt is undeniably recognizable on its own, and it's substantially different than any neck collar. The new EVS is almost identical in form and function to the Leatt, and it is not substantially different as the Leatt is to previous generations of neck collars.

The comparison you're making is not accurate.[/quote:ntu2vmng]

OK JOHN...let's take a look at the core product, starting with the name. The RC Evolution (RC would stand for race collar) is simply the evolution of their existing neck collar products. Their is no question that the race collar started the trend of limiting hyper extension and hyper flexion. The folks at Leatt obviously made leaps and bounds in improving that protection, but by no means does it give them the all mighty right to over charge, under produce, and generally treat their customers (dealers) like they owe them something.

The RC Evolution is a quite obvious next step for EVS to produce. By utilizing a semi rigid polycarbonate, the frame of the RC EVO will absorb and redistribute the impact energy through the brace before it gets to the body. Let's be honest - the design of the Leatt transfers that energy directly into the collarbone, sternum, and also creates a pressure point on the spine. It certainly isn't the end all be all, and I applaud EVS for developing a product that is both functional and reasonably priced.

[quote="a_rev":6stankvv]...The folks at Leatt obviously made leaps and bounds in improving that protection, but by no means does it give them the all mighty right to over charge, under produce, and generally treat their customers (dealers) like they owe them something.

....[/quote:6stankvv]

I never said Leatt did have those rights. But, as a person heavily involved in innovation and design, I feel the sense of ownership and, beyond that, emotion involved with our designs. I'd crap a building if I saw EVS's rip-off. Sure, all designers "borrow" from other designs. However, what EVS has done is basically copy a design, changed a few minor features, and call it their own. There's little doubt that Leatt must've invested quite a few engineering/development hours to come up with what is an extremely elegant and innovative design; it's obvious that EVS will capitalize substantially on someone else's effort.

Also, I'd like to run the actual analysis of the polycarb vs. glass-filled material of the Leatt. Yes, there may be an improvement, but that's a minor alteration to the original design. Heck, with the shrink rates of the amorphous unfilled polycarb vs. the glass filled semi-crystalline being almost identical, I'd bet Leatt could do a quick material switch in their production tooling with little affect on production dimensions.

Go to Locomx.com
They have it on their website in all colors and sizes

[quote="jtomasik":1hbsrglj][quote="a_rev":1hbsrglj]...The folks at Leatt obviously made leaps and bounds in improving that protection, but by no means does it give them the all mighty right to over charge, under produce, and generally treat their customers (dealers) like they owe them something.

....[/quote:1hbsrglj]

I never said Leatt did have those rights. But, as a person heavily involved in innovation and design, I feel the sense of ownership and, beyond that, emotion involved with our designs. I'd crap a building if I saw EVS's rip-off. Sure, all designers "borrow" from other designs. However, what EVS has done is basically copy a design, changed a few minor features, and call it their own. There's little doubt that Leatt must've invested quite a few engineering/development hours to come up with what is an extremely elegant and innovative design; it's obvious that EVS will capitalize substantially on someone else's effort.

Also, I'd like to run the actual analysis of the polycarb vs. glass-filled material of the Leatt. Yes, there may be an improvement, but that's a minor alteration to the original design. Heck, with the shrink rates of the amorphous unfilled polycarb vs. the glass filled semi-crystalline being almost identical, I'd bet Leatt could do a quick material switch in their production tooling with little affect on production dimensions.[/quote:1hbsrglj]

Ok... explain to me what they copied from Leatt?
It doesn't buckle in the same locations.
It doesn't get support in the exact same locations.
It has shoulder support - the design is different.
They also have these types of neck support systems in Nascar and even football.
Tell me who copied who again?