US GP AT GLEN HELEN FOR 5 YEARS

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A bird tweeting from Europe confirmed an agreement for five years for the US GP to be held at Glen Helen. This year the race will be held last weekend of may.
When the PR with the details?
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Any word on the Davalos Twins ?
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so GH got a long term contract finally. What a symbolic track, must give it up to YS if this is true. This must hurt mxsports, YS will not be satisfied with this and they will only grow from here. Not much time for the teams to arrange all the travel, bikes etc and also a budget for this. This brings us one step closer to one outdoor championship and one SX championship. Interesting and a brave move by YS i must admit.
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so GH got a long term contract finally. What a symbolic track, must give it up to YS if this is true. This must hurt mxsports...
so GH got a long term contract finally. What a symbolic track, must give it up to YS if this is true. This must hurt mxsports, YS will not be satisfied with this and they will only grow from here. Not much time for the teams to arrange all the travel, bikes etc and also a budget for this. This brings us one step closer to one outdoor championship and one SX championship. Interesting and a brave move by YS i must admit.
YS usually work with longtime contracts so this makes it more likely to be true for me actually.
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If it turns out to be true, on May 28-29 weekend, we will be there!
We are making the 3600 round trip and this will be icing on the cake.

Nothing on the GH website, yet.

http://www.glenhelen.com/index.htm

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yeah, there is going to be a GP at Glen Helen in two months and all parties involved have elected to have it announced by a no-name poster on a moto board.

If GH thinks MX Sports is unreasonable, wait until YS is done with them.

They will be able to make a 55 gallon drum disappear by sitting on it.
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JustMX wrote:
yeah, there is going to be a GP at Glen Helen in two months and all parties involved have elected to have it announced by a...
yeah, there is going to be a GP at Glen Helen in two months and all parties involved have elected to have it announced by a no-name poster on a moto board.

If GH thinks MX Sports is unreasonable, wait until YS is done with them.

They will be able to make a 55 gallon drum disappear by sitting on it.
JustMX,

I don't get it, you ever had any dealings with YS, how do you know how they work with companies. I think you need to talk to people like Sylvain Geboers and Steve Dixon two of the long term team owners in MXGP. Both those guys and many more see the future as being bright under YS.

One of Jonathan Beasleys best mates is David Clabaugh. You think Clabaugh would take the MXoN if Budds Creek didn't make a packet of money.

Everyone can win in these deals, but most of all Motocross.

Geoff
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JustMX wrote:
yeah, there is going to be a GP at Glen Helen in two months and all parties involved have elected to have it announced by a...
yeah, there is going to be a GP at Glen Helen in two months and all parties involved have elected to have it announced by a no-name poster on a moto board.

If GH thinks MX Sports is unreasonable, wait until YS is done with them.

They will be able to make a 55 gallon drum disappear by sitting on it.
mxgeoff wrote:
JustMX, I don't get it, you ever had any dealings with YS, how do you know how they work with companies. I think you need to...
JustMX,

I don't get it, you ever had any dealings with YS, how do you know how they work with companies. I think you need to talk to people like Sylvain Geboers and Steve Dixon two of the long term team owners in MXGP. Both those guys and many more see the future as being bright under YS.

One of Jonathan Beasleys best mates is David Clabaugh. You think Clabaugh would take the MXoN if Budds Creek didn't make a packet of money.

Everyone can win in these deals, but most of all Motocross.

Geoff
When the oldschool way of making a career in mx collides with the new way (the YS way) it hurts.

If you use your own money to make a career it even more expensive now as a rider/team

If you're good at marketing and do it the other way around you can make more money now, cause you have more exposure and a nicer pit etc.

For the clubs/trackowners I really don't know. I think it's more diffcult now, but without the chance of making more money. I guess the best spots are reserved for the promotors sponsors? When it comes to attendance it's not what it used to be since people follow it on tv/internet instead. Most visitors to mx-races are riders or ex-riders. I have a feeling there are less riders today than 10 years ago because of noise shutting down tracks, fourstrokes to expensive to repair etc.

MXON is a special race, and it has gained interest the last years and has great live attendance and a good chance of making money. With very high demands on the club when it comes to ordinary gp I THINK it's not easy for them to make a profit
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Any word on the Davalos Twins ?
Nice photo Rupert.
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JustMX wrote:
yeah, there is going to be a GP at Glen Helen in two months and all parties involved have elected to have it announced by a...
yeah, there is going to be a GP at Glen Helen in two months and all parties involved have elected to have it announced by a no-name poster on a moto board.

If GH thinks MX Sports is unreasonable, wait until YS is done with them.

They will be able to make a 55 gallon drum disappear by sitting on it.
mxgeoff wrote:
JustMX, I don't get it, you ever had any dealings with YS, how do you know how they work with companies. I think you need to...
JustMX,

I don't get it, you ever had any dealings with YS, how do you know how they work with companies. I think you need to talk to people like Sylvain Geboers and Steve Dixon two of the long term team owners in MXGP. Both those guys and many more see the future as being bright under YS.

One of Jonathan Beasleys best mates is David Clabaugh. You think Clabaugh would take the MXoN if Budds Creek didn't make a packet of money.

Everyone can win in these deals, but most of all Motocross.

Geoff
themrtoad wrote:
When the oldschool way of making a career in mx collides with the new way (the YS way) it hurts. If you use your own money...
When the oldschool way of making a career in mx collides with the new way (the YS way) it hurts.

If you use your own money to make a career it even more expensive now as a rider/team

If you're good at marketing and do it the other way around you can make more money now, cause you have more exposure and a nicer pit etc.

For the clubs/trackowners I really don't know. I think it's more diffcult now, but without the chance of making more money. I guess the best spots are reserved for the promotors sponsors? When it comes to attendance it's not what it used to be since people follow it on tv/internet instead. Most visitors to mx-races are riders or ex-riders. I have a feeling there are less riders today than 10 years ago because of noise shutting down tracks, fourstrokes to expensive to repair etc.

MXON is a special race, and it has gained interest the last years and has great live attendance and a good chance of making money. With very high demands on the club when it comes to ordinary gp I THINK it's not easy for them to make a profit
The MX2 class in the World Motocross Championship has never been stronger with just young talented riders and not 30+ riders going around. The MX1 class is full of much younger riders than 20 years ago and it's competative, the racing has been great in recent years. The events are run miles better than ever before. The top teams are making good money (while getting less money from the Industry).

I can tell you, if the teams were depending on the Industry/Factories the sport would be in big trouble and it's the presentation of the YS events that is attracting big companies like Monster, Red Bull, Teka, Rockstar.

The European Motorcycle market is so small it's ridiculous, yet the Grand Prix series is growing.

So where is the problem, older riders can't get in, younger riders have to do their National championships a little longer before getting picked by a GP team.

Most GP circuits have some type of government backing, which pays for a lot of the YS sign on fee. Circuits like Sevlievo, Mantova, Valkenswaard, Agueda, Bellpuig, Teutschethal, Lommel, Lierop, Loket, St Jean A'ngely, and Uddevalla have been around a long time on the series, they all keep coming back, so you think they lose money on these races?? Of course they are not.

Stop reading BS in American magazines such as MXAction and pull your head out of your ass. The YS way is much better than people might thing.

Geoff

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JustMX wrote:
yeah, there is going to be a GP at Glen Helen in two months and all parties involved have elected to have it announced by a...
yeah, there is going to be a GP at Glen Helen in two months and all parties involved have elected to have it announced by a no-name poster on a moto board.

If GH thinks MX Sports is unreasonable, wait until YS is done with them.

They will be able to make a 55 gallon drum disappear by sitting on it.
If GH thinks MX Sports is unreasonable, wait until YS is done with them.

My guess is that they know just a tiny bit more about both YS and MX sports than the experts here on vital.

It could all be bunk and only time will tell.
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April Fools
I think the fool might be the guy who didn't know there are 31 days in March.
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Sheesh I hope this isn't a joke!

If it's true we will be there--I luv Euro Moto! Woohoo
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April Fools
SteveS wrote:
I think the fool might be the guy who didn't know there are 31 days in March.
Look at the date he joined.
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mxgeoff wrote:
JustMX, I don't get it, you ever had any dealings with YS, how do you know how they work with companies. I think you need to...
JustMX,

I don't get it, you ever had any dealings with YS, how do you know how they work with companies. I think you need to talk to people like Sylvain Geboers and Steve Dixon two of the long term team owners in MXGP. Both those guys and many more see the future as being bright under YS.

One of Jonathan Beasleys best mates is David Clabaugh. You think Clabaugh would take the MXoN if Budds Creek didn't make a packet of money.

Everyone can win in these deals, but most of all Motocross.

Geoff
themrtoad wrote:
When the oldschool way of making a career in mx collides with the new way (the YS way) it hurts. If you use your own money...
When the oldschool way of making a career in mx collides with the new way (the YS way) it hurts.

If you use your own money to make a career it even more expensive now as a rider/team

If you're good at marketing and do it the other way around you can make more money now, cause you have more exposure and a nicer pit etc.

For the clubs/trackowners I really don't know. I think it's more diffcult now, but without the chance of making more money. I guess the best spots are reserved for the promotors sponsors? When it comes to attendance it's not what it used to be since people follow it on tv/internet instead. Most visitors to mx-races are riders or ex-riders. I have a feeling there are less riders today than 10 years ago because of noise shutting down tracks, fourstrokes to expensive to repair etc.

MXON is a special race, and it has gained interest the last years and has great live attendance and a good chance of making money. With very high demands on the club when it comes to ordinary gp I THINK it's not easy for them to make a profit
mxgeoff wrote:
The MX2 class in the World Motocross Championship has never been stronger with just young talented riders and not 30+ riders going around. The MX1 class...
The MX2 class in the World Motocross Championship has never been stronger with just young talented riders and not 30+ riders going around. The MX1 class is full of much younger riders than 20 years ago and it's competative, the racing has been great in recent years. The events are run miles better than ever before. The top teams are making good money (while getting less money from the Industry).

I can tell you, if the teams were depending on the Industry/Factories the sport would be in big trouble and it's the presentation of the YS events that is attracting big companies like Monster, Red Bull, Teka, Rockstar.

The European Motorcycle market is so small it's ridiculous, yet the Grand Prix series is growing.

So where is the problem, older riders can't get in, younger riders have to do their National championships a little longer before getting picked by a GP team.

Most GP circuits have some type of government backing, which pays for a lot of the YS sign on fee. Circuits like Sevlievo, Mantova, Valkenswaard, Agueda, Bellpuig, Teutschethal, Lommel, Lierop, Loket, St Jean A'ngely, and Uddevalla have been around a long time on the series, they all keep coming back, so you think they lose money on these races?? Of course they are not.

Stop reading BS in American magazines such as MXAction and pull your head out of your ass. The YS way is much better than people might thing.

Geoff

It's difficult to make a statement when english is not my first language. My answer was not directed against YS. I'm not pro or against any promotor. I'm pro motocross.

My point was that the new way is better for everyone in the longrun, but I was unsure for the clubs/trackowners. You still haven't convinced me there.


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It's difficult to make a statement when english is not my first language. My answer was not directed against YS. I'm not pro or against any promotor. I'm pro motocross.

My point was that the new way is better for everyone in the longrun, but I was unsure for the clubs/trackowners. You still haven't convinced me there.

Well done

How many of us could have typed up a reply in your language.
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The thing is, the tracks over here are not private. The GP of Catalunya is held in the official motocross track of Catalunya (Bellpuig). The government pays for most of it. Then you just need a club pasionate enough to work for free. Actually all the races over here are held by clubs without any expectation of $$$.

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The thing is, the tracks over here are not private. The GP of Catalunya is held in the official motocross track of Catalunya (Bellpuig). The government...
The thing is, the tracks over here are not private. The GP of Catalunya is held in the official motocross track of Catalunya (Bellpuig). The government pays for most of it. Then you just need a club pasionate enough to work for free. Actually all the races over here are held by clubs without any expectation of $$$.
Uddevalla in Sweden do get some backing from the city Uddevalla. They make some money I guess but only because hundreds of voulanteers work for free. I'm happy as long as I have a GP so close to my home and the club do a terrific job with it.

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The thing is, the tracks over here are not private. The GP of Catalunya is held in the official motocross track of Catalunya (Bellpuig). The government...
The thing is, the tracks over here are not private. The GP of Catalunya is held in the official motocross track of Catalunya (Bellpuig). The government pays for most of it. Then you just need a club pasionate enough to work for free. Actually all the races over here are held by clubs without any expectation of $$$.
themrtoad wrote:
Uddevalla in Sweden do get some backing from the city Uddevalla. They make some money I guess but only because hundreds of voulanteers work for free...
Uddevalla in Sweden do get some backing from the city Uddevalla. They make some money I guess but only because hundreds of voulanteers work for free. I'm happy as long as I have a GP so close to my home and the club do a terrific job with it.

And we all get to check out those hot Swedish girls, hahaha.
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mxgeoff wrote:
JustMX, I don't get it, you ever had any dealings with YS, how do you know how they work with companies. I think you need to...
JustMX,

I don't get it, you ever had any dealings with YS, how do you know how they work with companies. I think you need to talk to people like Sylvain Geboers and Steve Dixon two of the long term team owners in MXGP. Both those guys and many more see the future as being bright under YS.

One of Jonathan Beasleys best mates is David Clabaugh. You think Clabaugh would take the MXoN if Budds Creek didn't make a packet of money.

Everyone can win in these deals, but most of all Motocross.

Geoff
Geoff
A chat with Steve Dixon would be interesting if you could get him to tell you the truth.

You know all about how much "success" he had with running his GP's in England right ??
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Interesting note on the GP's. If they have a race here, and the US riders decide to race at that event. They will have to quiet their bikes down considerably. Just a thought...
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JustMX, I don't get it, you ever had any dealings with YS, how do you know how they work with companies. I think you need to...
JustMX,

I don't get it, you ever had any dealings with YS, how do you know how they work with companies. I think you need to talk to people like Sylvain Geboers and Steve Dixon two of the long term team owners in MXGP. Both those guys and many more see the future as being bright under YS.

One of Jonathan Beasleys best mates is David Clabaugh. You think Clabaugh would take the MXoN if Budds Creek didn't make a packet of money.

Everyone can win in these deals, but most of all Motocross.

Geoff
Now that is funny right there..........

Why don't YOU ask Beasley how he did?

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Excellent, some fresh air is needed. I've been waiting for so long to see more crossover events between US and Euro riders. The Nations is great and all but this gets more individual and it's what we need. The Nationals are cool but I feel like they don't have much else to say. It's so exciting to see more international stuff on our land. GH plaied it pretty smartly, no question. And they got the long term deal they wanted. That was fast.
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mxgeoff wrote:
JustMX, I don't get it, you ever had any dealings with YS, how do you know how they work with companies. I think you need to...
JustMX,

I don't get it, you ever had any dealings with YS, how do you know how they work with companies. I think you need to talk to people like Sylvain Geboers and Steve Dixon two of the long term team owners in MXGP. Both those guys and many more see the future as being bright under YS.

One of Jonathan Beasleys best mates is David Clabaugh. You think Clabaugh would take the MXoN if Budds Creek didn't make a packet of money.

Everyone can win in these deals, but most of all Motocross.

Geoff
JustMX wrote:
Now that is funny right there..........

Why don't YOU ask Beasley how he did?




I was there.


More people show at the annual Blue&Grey experts points race then

were at that GP.
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mxgeoff wrote:
JustMX, I don't get it, you ever had any dealings with YS, how do you know how they work with companies. I think you need to...
JustMX,

I don't get it, you ever had any dealings with YS, how do you know how they work with companies. I think you need to talk to people like Sylvain Geboers and Steve Dixon two of the long term team owners in MXGP. Both those guys and many more see the future as being bright under YS.

One of Jonathan Beasleys best mates is David Clabaugh. You think Clabaugh would take the MXoN if Budds Creek didn't make a packet of money.

Everyone can win in these deals, but most of all Motocross.

Geoff
themrtoad wrote:
When the oldschool way of making a career in mx collides with the new way (the YS way) it hurts. If you use your own money...
When the oldschool way of making a career in mx collides with the new way (the YS way) it hurts.

If you use your own money to make a career it even more expensive now as a rider/team

If you're good at marketing and do it the other way around you can make more money now, cause you have more exposure and a nicer pit etc.

For the clubs/trackowners I really don't know. I think it's more diffcult now, but without the chance of making more money. I guess the best spots are reserved for the promotors sponsors? When it comes to attendance it's not what it used to be since people follow it on tv/internet instead. Most visitors to mx-races are riders or ex-riders. I have a feeling there are less riders today than 10 years ago because of noise shutting down tracks, fourstrokes to expensive to repair etc.

MXON is a special race, and it has gained interest the last years and has great live attendance and a good chance of making money. With very high demands on the club when it comes to ordinary gp I THINK it's not easy for them to make a profit
mxgeoff wrote:
The MX2 class in the World Motocross Championship has never been stronger with just young talented riders and not 30+ riders going around. The MX1 class...
The MX2 class in the World Motocross Championship has never been stronger with just young talented riders and not 30+ riders going around. The MX1 class is full of much younger riders than 20 years ago and it's competative, the racing has been great in recent years. The events are run miles better than ever before. The top teams are making good money (while getting less money from the Industry).

I can tell you, if the teams were depending on the Industry/Factories the sport would be in big trouble and it's the presentation of the YS events that is attracting big companies like Monster, Red Bull, Teka, Rockstar.

The European Motorcycle market is so small it's ridiculous, yet the Grand Prix series is growing.

So where is the problem, older riders can't get in, younger riders have to do their National championships a little longer before getting picked by a GP team.

Most GP circuits have some type of government backing, which pays for a lot of the YS sign on fee. Circuits like Sevlievo, Mantova, Valkenswaard, Agueda, Bellpuig, Teutschethal, Lommel, Lierop, Loket, St Jean A'ngely, and Uddevalla have been around a long time on the series, they all keep coming back, so you think they lose money on these races?? Of course they are not.

Stop reading BS in American magazines such as MXAction and pull your head out of your ass. The YS way is much better than people might thing.

Geoff

Exactly !
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JustMX, I don't get it, you ever had any dealings with YS, how do you know how they work with companies. I think you need to...
JustMX,

I don't get it, you ever had any dealings with YS, how do you know how they work with companies. I think you need to talk to people like Sylvain Geboers and Steve Dixon two of the long term team owners in MXGP. Both those guys and many more see the future as being bright under YS.

One of Jonathan Beasleys best mates is David Clabaugh. You think Clabaugh would take the MXoN if Budds Creek didn't make a packet of money.

Everyone can win in these deals, but most of all Motocross.

Geoff
englishman wrote:
Geoff A chat with Steve Dixon would be interesting if you could get him to tell you the truth. You know all about how much "success"...
Geoff
A chat with Steve Dixon would be interesting if you could get him to tell you the truth.

You know all about how much "success" he had with running his GP's in England right ??
Steve Dixon said the GPs are far better now than they where 10 or 20 years ago for teams and employees and in the way the races are run and presented...
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mxgeoff wrote:
JustMX, I don't get it, you ever had any dealings with YS, how do you know how they work with companies. I think you need to...
JustMX,

I don't get it, you ever had any dealings with YS, how do you know how they work with companies. I think you need to talk to people like Sylvain Geboers and Steve Dixon two of the long term team owners in MXGP. Both those guys and many more see the future as being bright under YS.

One of Jonathan Beasleys best mates is David Clabaugh. You think Clabaugh would take the MXoN if Budds Creek didn't make a packet of money.

Everyone can win in these deals, but most of all Motocross.

Geoff
englishman wrote:
Geoff A chat with Steve Dixon would be interesting if you could get him to tell you the truth. You know all about how much "success"...
Geoff
A chat with Steve Dixon would be interesting if you could get him to tell you the truth.

You know all about how much "success" he had with running his GP's in England right ??
mccread wrote:
Steve Dixon said the GPs are far better now than they where 10 or 20 years ago for teams and employees and in the way the...
Steve Dixon said the GPs are far better now than they where 10 or 20 years ago for teams and employees and in the way the races are run and presented...
Not my question.

If you can get an honest answer as to how succesful the GP's he organized and financed were you will be surprised.
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RideMX 3/31/2010 7:35pm
3/31/2010 7:35pm
Geoff will you be at GH?

I can't wait to see this race. I think Youthstream will do a great job, just like they did at Budds Creek.

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