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mxmat813 3/24/2010 5:49am
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massholeyankeekiller wrote:
if you idiots would read all the results from the link the 30+exp which is really the b class at the vet national.....not a money class.....the...
if you idiots would read all the results from the link the 30+exp which is really the b class at the vet national.....not a money class.....the classes were 30+am (novice), 30+exp(amateur), and 30+pro(expert) ..quit whining and twist the throttle......braaap
http://www.ama-cycle.org/amrace/advancement/racer.asp?sid=0E47893A-E525…

Are Open A and Plus 25 A considered expert classes, or do they somehow fall under the it says A/Expert but it really means B Amateur clause?
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massholeyankeekiller wrote:
quad racers shouldnt be allowed to race bikes at all factory or non factory
riders who start out their career on quads shouldn't be singled out

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JACK CAMELIO 3/24/2010 6:21am
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THIS IS JACK CAMELIO . I DONT HIDE BEHIND SOME FAKE AS NAME LIKE SOME OF YOU! IVE RIDDEN LORETTAS FOR 3 YEARS AND NEVER ONCE RODE THE 30 B/C CLASS. BUT WHEN I RODE THE LORETTAS QUALIFIER AT REDDICK FL THERE WERE RIDERS IN THERE THAT DONT BELONG (ACCORDING TO U EXPERTS) SO I JOINED THE CROWD AT E-TOWN ! IM A DEAD SLOW 48 YEAR OLD CRIPPLED RIDER FROM N.E. CAN I PLEASE GET MY ASS HANDED 2 ME BY THE LIKES OF DOUG DOUBACH,EARL MAY,TRAMPAS PARKER,AND WHO EVER ELSE IS NOW 45! SO U PEOPLE CAN PISS AND MOAN BUT WE WILL LET MX SPORTS SORT IT OUT!!!!!!!!!!!
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Huckster 3/24/2010 6:38am
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yea you finished 4th o/a in +45 last year at the national. You suck!!! lol
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jbomx363 3/24/2010 6:41am
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JACK CAMELIO wrote:
THIS IS JACK CAMELIO . I DONT HIDE BEHIND SOME FAKE AS NAME LIKE SOME OF YOU! IVE RIDDEN LORETTAS FOR 3 YEARS AND NEVER ONCE...
THIS IS JACK CAMELIO . I DONT HIDE BEHIND SOME FAKE AS NAME LIKE SOME OF YOU! IVE RIDDEN LORETTAS FOR 3 YEARS AND NEVER ONCE RODE THE 30 B/C CLASS. BUT WHEN I RODE THE LORETTAS QUALIFIER AT REDDICK FL THERE WERE RIDERS IN THERE THAT DONT BELONG (ACCORDING TO U EXPERTS) SO I JOINED THE CROWD AT E-TOWN ! IM A DEAD SLOW 48 YEAR OLD CRIPPLED RIDER FROM N.E. CAN I PLEASE GET MY ASS HANDED 2 ME BY THE LIKES OF DOUG DOUBACH,EARL MAY,TRAMPAS PARKER,AND WHO EVER ELSE IS NOW 45! SO U PEOPLE CAN PISS AND MOAN BUT WE WILL LET MX SPORTS SORT IT OUT!!!!!!!!!!!
So you're saying you rode "A" class, well whether you say that or not, it's true in NESC, but since you can't compete, you're going to sandbag the B/C cause.. the crowd is?


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JACK CAMELIO 3/24/2010 6:53am
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YUP JUST LIKE THE TOP 5 PLUS RIDERS I N THE C CLASSES AND B CLASSES!!!! SHOULD JOHN DOWD RACE THE 45 + THIS YEAR AT LORETTAS? HE GOT 2ND OVERALL AT SOUTHWICK LAST YEAR? THE RULES NEED CHANGING! IVE GOT MY REASONS WHY I RODE THE 30 B/C !
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JACK CAMELIO 3/24/2010 6:58am
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NOTICE THE RACER CLASSIFICATION BELOW!
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jbomx363 3/24/2010 7:01am
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JACK CAMELIO wrote:
YUP JUST LIKE THE TOP 5 PLUS RIDERS I N THE C CLASSES AND B CLASSES!!!! SHOULD JOHN DOWD RACE THE 45 + THIS YEAR AT...
YUP JUST LIKE THE TOP 5 PLUS RIDERS I N THE C CLASSES AND B CLASSES!!!! SHOULD JOHN DOWD RACE THE 45 + THIS YEAR AT LORETTAS? HE GOT 2ND OVERALL AT SOUTHWICK LAST YEAR? THE RULES NEED CHANGING! IVE GOT MY REASONS WHY I RODE THE 30 B/C !
Well guess what? You're wasting your time. You will be booted out of B/C. Thanks for playing though.

I have more respect for a guy finishing 20th in the proper class, than someone who cheats to get top 5.

Have fun.
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No more CAPS PLEASE!
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BOOHOOHOO, theres fast guys in my class, I wannna drop down to a slower class,BOO HOO HOO.I ve heard bingo and knitting are pretty fun activities on Sunday afternoons.
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lumpy790 3/24/2010 7:16am
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I dont know Jack but.........MX Sports has him listed as a B rider.
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mxr102 3/24/2010 7:18am
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Last I looked, once a rider rides A in any sanctioning body when they race in the AMA they are considered an A rider. Back in the day you used to be able to ride A 3 times to test the waters and then go back to B class as long as you never accepted ANY MONEY.
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mxmat813 3/24/2010 7:20am
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JACK CAMELIO wrote:
http://www.ama-cycle.org/amrace/advancement/racer.asp?sid=778DF15A-8873…
http://www.ama-cycle.org/amrace/advancement/racer.asp?sid=DA38757A-0875…

Taken out of the 2010 AMA Supplemental Rulebook:
5. Riders who have ever been classified as a Pro, Pro Am, or A rider in a non-youth class, are not eligible for any "B/C" designated class. Supplemental Rule 4 does not apply to these classes.

It also say's in your rider classification that you qualified for AMA Nationals. So because you have guys like Dubach and company in the Plus 45 Class you feel it's okay to try to drop down a class? Sounds like some double standards to me.



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JACK CAMELIO 3/24/2010 7:41am
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IF THERES A CHEAT LINE ON THE TRACK AND EVERYBODY IS TAKING IT DO YOU TAKE THAT LINE??????????

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massholeyankeekiller 3/24/2010 7:52am
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Most people wouldnt't but we all know jack would take a cheater line any day to get ahead in life
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JACK CAMELIO wrote:
IF THERES A CHEAT LINE ON THE TRACK AND EVERYBODY IS TAKING IT DO YOU TAKE THAT LINE??????????
If the line is there, is it a cheat line? Use it until the line closes. The referee will decide if a penalty is due.

Jack, I've ridden the +40 and +45 classes at LL's numerous times. Never finished in the top 10 overall but had some good rides.

Been racing for over 30 years, and ride A class in my home state of Minnesota. It's difficult for me to imagine someone finishing in the top 5 at the Loretta's Championship, and then going back to ride a B/C class.

In no way am I judging what you are doing, but have to wonder if you have ever ridden a money class, or an A class moto.

If the answer is yes, you shouldn't be riding the Vet B/C class.
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lumpy790 wrote:
I dont know Jack but.........MX Sports has him listed as a B rider.
That's because MX Sports does not look at other sanctioning bodies when compiling their own list. Until someone points it out that a rider was in a higher class, they won't do anything.

What's funny. It shows Mr. Camelio entered the 45+A class and entered a VET PRO $ class, with Kevin Walker just this year.

But no big deal.. if he wants to cheat, he wants to cheat. Doubt it matters to him, just the sandbagger mentality.
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JACK CAMELIO 3/24/2010 8:14am
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IVE SEEN B CLASS'S PAY MONEY AND C CLASS'S TOO ITS CALLED CONTINGENCY! IM RIDING THIS CLASS FOR A REASON! AND YES I WOULD TAKE THAT CHEAT LINE CUZ I PROBALLY MADE IT !!!!!!!!!!MX RACING IS A SPORT RULES ARE MADE TO BE BENT ,BROKEN AND CHANGED!!!!!!!
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JACK CAMELIO 3/24/2010 8:18am
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OK, ANYONE THAT EVER HELD A PRO LICENSE DROPS BACK TO AN A RIDER BUT THATS OK?
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Huckster 3/24/2010 8:29am
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Wouldn't his 4th o/a in the +45 class last year exclude him from every riding a B/C again at the ranch?

I would bet that there is someone from MXSPORTS reading this. Care to chime in?
massholeyankeekiller 3/24/2010 8:33am
3/24/2010 8:33am
I think people who try to protest others shouldnt be allowed to race at the national events...stay in your little local shitbag communities and ride whatever the hell you want but dont go to tennessee and cry like a baby
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sc961 3/24/2010 8:42am
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JACK CAMELIO wrote:
OK, ANYONE THAT EVER HELD A PRO LICENSE DROPS BACK TO AN A RIDER BUT THATS OK?
Apples and oranges. And yes, by the rule book that's OK.

You didn't answer the question. Have you ever ridden A class?
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mxmat813 3/24/2010 8:44am
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JACK CAMELIO wrote:
OK, ANYONE THAT EVER HELD A PRO LICENSE DROPS BACK TO AN A RIDER BUT THATS OK?
sc961 wrote:
Apples and oranges. And yes, by the rule book that's OK.

You didn't answer the question. Have you ever ridden A class?
http://www.ama-cycle.org/amrace/advancement/racer.asp?sid=DA38757A-0875…

Yes.
DanDunes818 3/24/2010 8:44am
3/24/2010 8:44am
I don't understand why a guy that top 4's at the biggest race of the year would want to drop back a class. I'd somewhat understand if he's riding around under the radar in the back of the back but he got 4th in a full class w/Earl May and Dr. Dubach the top 2.

I'm a 30+ B/C rider. and if I was racing LL's this year I'd make sure Novac and Camelio were not on the line with me.
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txtrainer 3/24/2010 9:03am
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this class went away before because of people like you..if you feel the need to explain yourself you shouldnt be riding it...you are going to ruin a good thing for alot of people

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