Dylan Ferrandis to Factory Husky 2025?

3/22/2024 12:17pm
Front242 wrote:

must be a Qanon thing to see his DF results this way 🙄

Please don't lump Q in with the aforementioned idiot. Q at least raises valid concerns and seeks transparency and positive change in society. 

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3/22/2024 12:18pm
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hmmm... KTM has had the red plate on two different riders bikes this year.   odd someone would think that the bike is somehow not competitive.  Last...

hmmm... KTM has had the red plate on two different riders bikes this year.   odd someone would think that the bike is somehow not competitive.  Last weekend they were on the podium and had four bikes in the top ten (more than any other manufacturer.  how does someone come to the conclusion that the bikes are not competitive?   what am i missing?

Well, Sexton has directly said he is not as fast as last year and they are struggling with a long way to go.  They are running secret forks on one bike and nobody can seem to get details on that.  Barcia has been very vocal about hating the new chassis and fork change and just wanted to ride last years bike.  Competitive yes, but clearly opportunities and Ferrandis has proven to be incredibly hard to please.  

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3/22/2024 12:22pm
Well, Sexton has directly said he is not as fast as last year and they are struggling with a long way to go.  They are running...

Well, Sexton has directly said he is not as fast as last year and they are struggling with a long way to go.  They are running secret forks on one bike and nobody can seem to get details on that.  Barcia has been very vocal about hating the new chassis and fork change and just wanted to ride last years bike.  Competitive yes, but clearly opportunities and Ferrandis has proven to be incredibly hard to please.  

new austrian bike does seem to be an example of overengineering IMO. On paper you have a lighter machine with more central rotating mass (more compact engine). However that does not necessarily mean that the bike will be better in a real-world conditions i.e. leaning, scrubbing, general handling. Higher center of gravity with the old engine and chassis may have been practically speaking better for cornering. 

Nonetheless, Prado is able to win on the bike in MXGP. Is it really so bad? 

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3/22/2024 12:24pm
Graybeard wrote:
On the one hand, if he’s getting paid well, awesome! On the other hand, no one seems to be gelling with the Austrian bikes, so I...

On the one hand, if he’s getting paid well, awesome! On the other hand, no one seems to be gelling with the Austrian bikes, so I see a bad future ahead for DF…..results wise

450 SX race wins 2024 :

Honda - 5 

KTM    - 2 with 2 dif riders

Yamaha - 2 

Suzuki - 1 

Other than Jett it seems like KTM is right there with everyone else. The only brand with 2 dif riders winning SX’s this season 

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3/22/2024 12:45pm
So, if he was happy on the YZF, why the desire to make a change? My understanding was he was voicing his displeasure with the new...

So, if he was happy on the YZF, why the desire to make a change? My understanding was he was voicing his displeasure with the new platform and wanted to make the move.

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He did voice his displeasure with the newer yamahauler but in addition might of gotten tired of the Star atmosphere in general.  I think you're selling...

He did voice his displeasure with the newer yamahauler but in addition might of gotten tired of the Star atmosphere in general. 

I think you're selling him short on his Phoenix results. "Bro ain't you heard the field is stacked" ...boy I feel funny talking like that. But he's not complained about the bike to my knowledge. I know they switched from Maxxis to Bridgestone but that's it.

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From Pirelli to Dunlop.

There's no one in the Supercross pits using Bridgestone.

Breaking their contract and swapping tires didn't seem to do the trick.  I like the kid, but his results hasn't repairing any of the bridges he has burned.  Let's hope he can make something of this opportunity. 

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3/22/2024 12:47pm

Dylan is a badass when he's on it, realllyyyyy hope he can get comfortable and ride to his potential on the Husky.

As for Husky, at least here trying to right the ship by hiring Dylan, god knows that team has been in trouble lately... Besides RJ on the 250.

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3/22/2024 12:57pm
Well, Sexton has directly said he is not as fast as last year and they are struggling with a long way to go.  They are running...

Well, Sexton has directly said he is not as fast as last year and they are struggling with a long way to go.  They are running secret forks on one bike and nobody can seem to get details on that.  Barcia has been very vocal about hating the new chassis and fork change and just wanted to ride last years bike.  Competitive yes, but clearly opportunities and Ferrandis has proven to be incredibly hard to please.  

new austrian bike does seem to be an example of overengineering IMO. On paper you have a lighter machine with more central rotating mass (more compact...

new austrian bike does seem to be an example of overengineering IMO. On paper you have a lighter machine with more central rotating mass (more compact engine). However that does not necessarily mean that the bike will be better in a real-world conditions i.e. leaning, scrubbing, general handling. Higher center of gravity with the old engine and chassis may have been practically speaking better for cornering. 

Nonetheless, Prado is able to win on the bike in MXGP. Is it really so bad? 

Their mxgp and us bikes are diff spec, so not really the best comparison 

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3/22/2024 1:07pm
Well, Sexton has directly said he is not as fast as last year and they are struggling with a long way to go.  They are running...

Well, Sexton has directly said he is not as fast as last year and they are struggling with a long way to go.  They are running secret forks on one bike and nobody can seem to get details on that.  Barcia has been very vocal about hating the new chassis and fork change and just wanted to ride last years bike.  Competitive yes, but clearly opportunities and Ferrandis has proven to be incredibly hard to please.  

new austrian bike does seem to be an example of overengineering IMO. On paper you have a lighter machine with more central rotating mass (more compact...

new austrian bike does seem to be an example of overengineering IMO. On paper you have a lighter machine with more central rotating mass (more compact engine). However that does not necessarily mean that the bike will be better in a real-world conditions i.e. leaning, scrubbing, general handling. Higher center of gravity with the old engine and chassis may have been practically speaking better for cornering. 

Nonetheless, Prado is able to win on the bike in MXGP. Is it really so bad? 

Prado is on a works bike and outdoors is not Supercross

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3/22/2024 2:33pm

Prado is on a works bike and outdoors is not Supercross

webb won races with the bike last year. none of us really know just how different the mxgp frame is to production . .

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3/22/2024 2:45pm
Front242 wrote:

must be a Qanon thing to see his DF results this way 🙄

Please don't lump Q in with the aforementioned idiot. Q at least raises valid concerns and seeks transparency and positive change in society. 

Sorry I'm late for the Mensa meeting, what did I miss? 

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3/22/2024 3:10pm

Prado is on a works bike and outdoors is not Supercross

webb won races with the bike last year. none of us really know just how different the mxgp frame is to production . .

Webb was pretty regretful about about being forced off KTM to race Yamahas?

3/22/2024 3:22pm
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Webb was pretty regretful about about being forced off KTM to race Yamahas?

I thought he left ktm cause he had too much money to be barked at like a dog by a south african. 

Did he win on the bike or not?

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3/22/2024 3:26pm

Sorry I'm late for the Mensa meeting, what did I miss? 

Maybe Q is just wondering about the $100-200 billion to unknown figures of taxpayer money being sent to ukraine and israel? not a valid concern? you happy letting pedo elites take 30-40% of your income by force and siphoning it off abroad? Q must be real stupid huh to even voice a concern over that . . .

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3/22/2024 3:37pm

Sorry I'm late for the Mensa meeting, what did I miss? 

Maybe Q is just wondering about the $100-200 billion to unknown figures of taxpayer money being sent to ukraine and israel? not a valid concern? you...

Maybe Q is just wondering about the $100-200 billion to unknown figures of taxpayer money being sent to ukraine and israel? not a valid concern? you happy letting pedo elites take 30-40% of your income by force and siphoning it off abroad? Q must be real stupid huh to even voice a concern over that . . .

Apparently the two of you have me confused with someone else. I was opining on DF and his past/current/future employment.

 

3/22/2024 3:43pm

Apparently the two of you have me confused with someone else. I was opining on DF and his past/current/future employment.

 

he tried to accuse you of being Qanon (as if thats an insult) for saying DF's results have been bad. 

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3/22/2024 3:52pm

Apparently the two of you have me confused with someone else. I was opining on DF and his past/current/future employment.

 

he tried to accuse you of being Qanon (as if thats an insult) for saying DF's results have been bad. 

Thanks for clearing that up as it seemed to be out of left field.

Not sure what that has to do with my opinion/perspective on DF and his employment.

If he disagrees, that's fine, but after reading the comments in the thread I don't seem to be alone in my opinion, but to each his own. 

Regarding the subject matter - Is he "bad"? No, but the people who are writing the checks are the ones that matter and I haven't seen them lining up to push one of their current riders out the door to sign DF, so there's that. 

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3/22/2024 5:17pm
Spoonguy wrote:

Webb was pretty regretful about about being forced off KTM to race Yamahas?

I thought he left ktm cause he had too much money to be barked at like a dog by a south african.  Did he win on...

I thought he left ktm cause he had too much money to be barked at like a dog by a south african. 

Did he win on the bike or not?

I guess I don't know his personal feelings about the bike or team as well as you, just what I've read or heard in interviews, maybe you have other sources or input? He has stated repeatedly the KTM and team didn't agree with him. I guess you say the team and bike did agree with him and he did like his situation there? Perhaps he was wrong and you were correct? Too bad if he had to leave KTM if it was an ideal situation for him.

3/22/2024 5:54pm
Spoonguy wrote:
I guess I don't know his personal feelings about the bike or team as well as you, just what I've read or heard in interviews, maybe...

I guess I don't know his personal feelings about the bike or team as well as you, just what I've read or heard in interviews, maybe you have other sources or input? He has stated repeatedly the KTM and team didn't agree with him. I guess you say the team and bike did agree with him and he did like his situation there? Perhaps he was wrong and you were correct? Too bad if he had to leave KTM if it was an ideal situation for him.

Not trying to say I'm an expert on the situation by any means, but from my understanding the Webb/ktm relationship got rocky before the current gen bike even came out. And its pretty undisputed that webb wanted nothing to do with aldon and ktm demanded he go there. 
 

That being said, the ultimate question remains: did Webb win supercross on the current gen ktm or not? I believe he won at least a race last year correct? You really going to take a guy seriously whos bitchin about his bike when he's able to win on it every third or fourth weekend? Of course he's gonna complain on any off night about the bike when he knows he's already on the way out.

plessinger was able to win on the same bike (almost) twice, and i don't see AP as being the most raw speed guy by any means. If those two can win races on the bike, I don't see why ferrandis can't. I see ferrandis as a stronger competitor than AP given the same resources and equipment

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