Arizona Voting Integrity Law

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Seems some states are coming to their senses......

https://www.foxnews.com/us/federal-judge-rules-on-new-arizona-voting-laws-requiring-proof-citizenship

"A federal judge is upholding new Arizona laws that would require registered voters to provide proof of U.S. citizenship in order for their votes to be counted.

Arizona legislators faced accusations of discrimination when they adopted the laws requiring counties to verify the status of registered voters but, in a ruling Thursday, U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton ruled that such requirements were not discriminatory.

Bolton said the state has an interest in preventing voter fraud and limiting voting to those individuals eligible to vote.

"Considering the evidence as a whole, the court concludes that Arizona’s interests in preventing non-citizens from voting and promoting public confidence in Arizona’s elections outweighs the limited burden voters might encounter when required to provide (documentary proof of citizenship)," the judge wrote."

MVGA - Make Voting Great Again

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The fact that this is even a question is a testament to how f-ed up our country has gotten. 
 

All voting should be in-person, with ID. Period. Few of any of the people crying “rascism” or “discrimination” regarding voter ID laws give a damn about the people in question. They care about guaranteed votes for their party.

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PNWMXer wrote:
The fact that this is even a question is a testament to how f-ed up our country has gotten.    All voting should be in-person, with...

The fact that this is even a question is a testament to how f-ed up our country has gotten. 
 

All voting should be in-person, with ID. Period. Few of any of the people crying “rascism” or “discrimination” regarding voter ID laws give a damn about the people in question. They care about guaranteed votes for their party.

RE: California: Strange that when you vote in person you have to confirm who you are, mail in you just send one in......yours, the wifes, grannies, your neighbor, or any you can get your hands on.

 

DNC motto: "Vote early and vote often!"

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PNWMXer wrote:
The fact that this is even a question is a testament to how f-ed up our country has gotten.    All voting should be in-person, with...

The fact that this is even a question is a testament to how f-ed up our country has gotten. 
 

All voting should be in-person, with ID. Period. Few of any of the people crying “rascism” or “discrimination” regarding voter ID laws give a damn about the people in question. They care about guaranteed votes for their party.

Love to see Washington go back to in person voting. 

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3/1/2024 3:46pm

Who would have thought showing an ID to vote is controversial? Oh the humanity, I'll have to show a photo ID, where in the hell can I get one of those? How will I get to the DMV? How do I ride public transport? Life is just so complicated, I probably just shouldn't vote. Who is really that stupid? And if they're that stupid, they probably shouldn't vote!

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PNWMXer wrote:
The fact that this is even a question is a testament to how f-ed up our country has gotten.    All voting should be in-person, with...

The fact that this is even a question is a testament to how f-ed up our country has gotten. 
 

All voting should be in-person, with ID. Period. Few of any of the people crying “rascism” or “discrimination” regarding voter ID laws give a damn about the people in question. They care about guaranteed votes for their party.

I've never understood why it's racist/discriminating to require an ID to vote, but it's not racist/discriminating to assume minorities/poor people can't or don't know how to get an ID.

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One state down 49 more to go.

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This law has little to do with actual mail-in voting, it is about those who do vote being eligible to vote.

Mail-in voting has an integrity issue, you should take pride in your voting and go down to the polling place and vote like a normal person.

Most crazy liberal democrats are just lazy.........it's how we got the geezer Biden in office.

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So many of you just can’t accept the fact that your guy lost in 2020. Therefore it has to all be rigged and is still being rigged and will forever be rigged unless he wins. Thats the only explanation in your minds. Truly crazy and insane behavior. Donald Trump literally votes by mail.

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3/2/2024 12:16pm Edited Date/Time 3/2/2024 12:17pm
So many of you just can’t accept the fact that your guy lost in 2020. Therefore it has to all be rigged and is still being...

So many of you just can’t accept the fact that your guy lost in 2020. Therefore it has to all be rigged and is still being rigged and will forever be rigged unless he wins. Thats the only explanation in your minds. Truly crazy and insane behavior. Donald Trump literally votes by mail.

So your assertion is that mail-in voting has the same as if not more integrity than in person ID voting?

There are many issues with mailing out voting ballots to everyone, democrats are proven liars and cheats, just own that.

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So many of you just can’t accept the fact that your guy lost in 2020. Therefore it has to all be rigged and is still being...

So many of you just can’t accept the fact that your guy lost in 2020. Therefore it has to all be rigged and is still being rigged and will forever be rigged unless he wins. Thats the only explanation in your minds. Truly crazy and insane behavior. Donald Trump literally votes by mail.

There's a huge difference between absentee voting and mail-in voting. I remember so much bitching and conspiracy from the left after the 2016 election was supposedly "stolen" from them.

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So many of you just can’t accept the fact that your guy lost in 2020. Therefore it has to all be rigged and is still being...

So many of you just can’t accept the fact that your guy lost in 2020. Therefore it has to all be rigged and is still being rigged and will forever be rigged unless he wins. Thats the only explanation in your minds. Truly crazy and insane behavior. Donald Trump literally votes by mail.

OW38B wrote:
So your assertion is that mail-in voting has the same as if not more integrity than in person ID voting? There are many issues with mailing...

So your assertion is that mail-in voting has the same as if not more integrity than in person ID voting?

There are many issues with mailing out voting ballots to everyone, democrats are proven liars and cheats, just own that.

😂😂😂

Fucking comical.

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So many of you just can’t accept the fact that your guy lost in 2020. Therefore it has to all be rigged and is still being...

So many of you just can’t accept the fact that your guy lost in 2020. Therefore it has to all be rigged and is still being rigged and will forever be rigged unless he wins. Thats the only explanation in your minds. Truly crazy and insane behavior. Donald Trump literally votes by mail.

OW38B wrote:
So your assertion is that mail-in voting has the same as if not more integrity than in person ID voting? There are many issues with mailing...

So your assertion is that mail-in voting has the same as if not more integrity than in person ID voting?

There are many issues with mailing out voting ballots to everyone, democrats are proven liars and cheats, just own that.

😂😂😂

Fucking comical.

I'm here till Thursday......you CLD are entertaining with your nothing to see here shtick.

Stay Tuned Homer.

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3/2/2024 5:49pm
ToolMaker wrote:
Who would have thought showing an ID to vote is controversial? Oh the humanity, I'll have to show a photo ID, where in the hell can...

Who would have thought showing an ID to vote is controversial? Oh the humanity, I'll have to show a photo ID, where in the hell can I get one of those? How will I get to the DMV? How do I ride public transport? Life is just so complicated, I probably just shouldn't vote. Who is really that stupid? And if they're that stupid, they probably shouldn't vote!

LOL, DMV, you don't need to be a citizen to have a driver's license!

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If I couldn't vote by mail, there would have been years where I could not have voted. I have been caught up on brush fires on election day and I know I'm not alone. You can't shut down fire suppression so people can go vote. What a major clusterfuck that would be.
How would deployed military members get to vote? I'm all about ID to vote, fuck, my dogs are registered and have licenses. 

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3/2/2024 8:19pm
ToolMaker wrote:
Who would have thought showing an ID to vote is controversial? Oh the humanity, I'll have to show a photo ID, where in the hell can...

Who would have thought showing an ID to vote is controversial? Oh the humanity, I'll have to show a photo ID, where in the hell can I get one of those? How will I get to the DMV? How do I ride public transport? Life is just so complicated, I probably just shouldn't vote. Who is really that stupid? And if they're that stupid, they probably shouldn't vote!

LOL, DMV, you don't need to be a citizen to have a driver's license!

And there lies the problem. Good of you the shed light on it.

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captmoto wrote:
If I couldn't vote by mail, there would have been years where I could not have voted. I have been caught up on brush fires on...

If I couldn't vote by mail, there would have been years where I could not have voted. I have been caught up on brush fires on election day and I know I'm not alone. You can't shut down fire suppression so people can go vote. What a major clusterfuck that would be.
How would deployed military members get to vote? I'm all about ID to vote, fuck, my dogs are registered and have licenses. 

You vote using an absentee ballot sent via post. That isn't what is being discussed here.

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3/2/2024 8:37pm
ToolMaker wrote:
Who would have thought showing an ID to vote is controversial? Oh the humanity, I'll have to show a photo ID, where in the hell can...

Who would have thought showing an ID to vote is controversial? Oh the humanity, I'll have to show a photo ID, where in the hell can I get one of those? How will I get to the DMV? How do I ride public transport? Life is just so complicated, I probably just shouldn't vote. Who is really that stupid? And if they're that stupid, they probably shouldn't vote!

LOL, DMV, you don't need to be a citizen to have a driver's license!

ToolMaker wrote:

And there lies the problem. Good of you the shed light on it.

Your country, your problem.

Meanwhile other western democracies have compulsory voting, no ID required, your name gets checked off the list when you vote, if you don't vote you get fined ($20 in Australia), the political parties fight over the undecided voters in the middle and the crazies on the far left and far right are sidelined.

But as I said, your country, your problem!

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LOL, DMV, you don't need to be a citizen to have a driver's license!

ToolMaker wrote:

And there lies the problem. Good of you the shed light on it.

Your country, your problem. Meanwhile other western democracies have compulsory voting, no ID required, your name gets checked off the list when you vote, if you...

Your country, your problem.

Meanwhile other western democracies have compulsory voting, no ID required, your name gets checked off the list when you vote, if you don't vote you get fined ($20 in Australia), the political parties fight over the undecided voters in the middle and the crazies on the far left and far right are sidelined.

But as I said, your country, your problem!

So much for democracy in Oz? Right! Enjoy the socialism. Your country, your problem.

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3/3/2024 12:47am
ToolMaker wrote:

And there lies the problem. Good of you the shed light on it.

Your country, your problem. Meanwhile other western democracies have compulsory voting, no ID required, your name gets checked off the list when you vote, if you...

Your country, your problem.

Meanwhile other western democracies have compulsory voting, no ID required, your name gets checked off the list when you vote, if you don't vote you get fined ($20 in Australia), the political parties fight over the undecided voters in the middle and the crazies on the far left and far right are sidelined.

But as I said, your country, your problem!

So much for democracy in Oz? Right! Enjoy the socialism. Your country, your problem.

Your echo chamber has undermined your understanding of the English language...

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3/3/2024 6:20am
captmoto wrote:
If I couldn't vote by mail, there would have been years where I could not have voted. I have been caught up on brush fires on...

If I couldn't vote by mail, there would have been years where I could not have voted. I have been caught up on brush fires on election day and I know I'm not alone. You can't shut down fire suppression so people can go vote. What a major clusterfuck that would be.
How would deployed military members get to vote? I'm all about ID to vote, fuck, my dogs are registered and have licenses. 

It's not the "voting by mail" that's a problem. It's the state sending out 5 gazillion ballots to people that didn't ask or deserve them. If you go show an ID and ask to vote by mail. OK, but the way it is, all the ballots go out to unexpecting people that have no clue. Those ballots get returned filled out by other than the legitimate person who never knows. You also have delivery carriers that can just throw out ballots from a whole neighborhood in an area heavy leaning one side. Then, you also get counterfeit ballots mixed in. Just too much opportunity for fraud.

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Your country, your problem. Meanwhile other western democracies have compulsory voting, no ID required, your name gets checked off the list when you vote, if you...

Your country, your problem.

Meanwhile other western democracies have compulsory voting, no ID required, your name gets checked off the list when you vote, if you don't vote you get fined ($20 in Australia), the political parties fight over the undecided voters in the middle and the crazies on the far left and far right are sidelined.

But as I said, your country, your problem!

So much for democracy in Oz? Right! Enjoy the socialism. Your country, your problem.

Your echo chamber has undermined your understanding of the English language...

Your echo chamber has undermined your understanding of the English language...

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image-20240303194718-2

Ummm, wake up. No other country has been fast tracked into socialism quicker than Australia. Fined for not voting? Welcome to Venezuela, mate.

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ToolMaker wrote:
Who would have thought showing an ID to vote is controversial? Oh the humanity, I'll have to show a photo ID, where in the hell can...

Who would have thought showing an ID to vote is controversial? Oh the humanity, I'll have to show a photo ID, where in the hell can I get one of those? How will I get to the DMV? How do I ride public transport? Life is just so complicated, I probably just shouldn't vote. Who is really that stupid? And if they're that stupid, they probably shouldn't vote!

LOL, DMV, you don't need to be a citizen to have a driver's license!

ToolMaker wrote:

And there lies the problem. Good of you the shed light on it.

Are you inferring that the Lawrence brothers shouldn’t be legally allowed to drive their Ferraris in the US?

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3/3/2024 8:01am

LOL, DMV, you don't need to be a citizen to have a driver's license!

ToolMaker wrote:

And there lies the problem. Good of you the shed light on it.

APLMAN99 wrote:

Are you inferring that the Lawrence brothers shouldn’t be legally allowed to drive their Ferraris in the US?

And the dumb continues.

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3/3/2024 8:07am Edited Date/Time 3/3/2024 8:09am

Pretty easy stuff. Must be an American citizen, have 2 forms of valid ID. They should make it lock tight so nobody ever questions the system. Mail in voting, should be available but in the traditional sense. 1. military 2. Disability 3. Forms must be submitted in advance to request mail in voting. 
 

This is America, it should be a very precise voting system so everyone has peace of mind. Instead we are ass backwards, it is a disaster and half the country feel it is manipulated. Easy to fix, although they don’t want to fix it. They want everyone split 

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3/3/2024 8:20am
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Pretty easy stuff. Must be an American citizen, have 2 forms of valid ID. They should make it lock tight so nobody ever questions the system...

Pretty easy stuff. Must be an American citizen, have 2 forms of valid ID. They should make it lock tight so nobody ever questions the system. Mail in voting, should be available but in the traditional sense. 1. military 2. Disability 3. Forms must be submitted in advance to request mail in voting. 
 

This is America, it should be a very precise voting system so everyone has peace of mind. Instead we are ass backwards, it is a disaster and half the country feel it is manipulated. Easy to fix, although they don’t want to fix it. They want everyone split 

This guy gets it! The only reason it's fucked up is because they want it fucked up.

TM

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captmoto wrote:
If I couldn't vote by mail, there would have been years where I could not have voted. I have been caught up on brush fires on...

If I couldn't vote by mail, there would have been years where I could not have voted. I have been caught up on brush fires on election day and I know I'm not alone. You can't shut down fire suppression so people can go vote. What a major clusterfuck that would be.
How would deployed military members get to vote? I'm all about ID to vote, fuck, my dogs are registered and have licenses. 

ToolMaker wrote:
It's not the "voting by mail" that's a problem. It's the state sending out 5 gazillion ballots to people that didn't ask or deserve them. If...

It's not the "voting by mail" that's a problem. It's the state sending out 5 gazillion ballots to people that didn't ask or deserve them. If you go show an ID and ask to vote by mail. OK, but the way it is, all the ballots go out to unexpecting people that have no clue. Those ballots get returned filled out by other than the legitimate person who never knows. You also have delivery carriers that can just throw out ballots from a whole neighborhood in an area heavy leaning one side. Then, you also get counterfeit ballots mixed in. Just too much opportunity for fraud.

Good god you are either completely clueless and ignorant or intentionally stupid. When you send in a mail in ballot, you can track when it gets counted. I was actually going to make a much longer post explaining more things about how secure mail in voting is, but it will fall on deaf ears with you. You don’t care about facts. No matter what, if your guy loses, it has to be fraud. That’s it. End of story. So it’s pointless to try to convince you guys otherwise. I’ll just continue to vote so my vote at least cancels out yours and people like you. You guys will just continue losing by millions of votes nationally, but always have a slim chance to win the Electoral College. Have fun in your little alternate reality because I know you will never come out of it back to the real world.

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3/3/2024 9:21am
captmoto wrote:
If I couldn't vote by mail, there would have been years where I could not have voted. I have been caught up on brush fires on...

If I couldn't vote by mail, there would have been years where I could not have voted. I have been caught up on brush fires on election day and I know I'm not alone. You can't shut down fire suppression so people can go vote. What a major clusterfuck that would be.
How would deployed military members get to vote? I'm all about ID to vote, fuck, my dogs are registered and have licenses. 

ToolMaker wrote:
It's not the "voting by mail" that's a problem. It's the state sending out 5 gazillion ballots to people that didn't ask or deserve them. If...

It's not the "voting by mail" that's a problem. It's the state sending out 5 gazillion ballots to people that didn't ask or deserve them. If you go show an ID and ask to vote by mail. OK, but the way it is, all the ballots go out to unexpecting people that have no clue. Those ballots get returned filled out by other than the legitimate person who never knows. You also have delivery carriers that can just throw out ballots from a whole neighborhood in an area heavy leaning one side. Then, you also get counterfeit ballots mixed in. Just too much opportunity for fraud.

Good god you are either completely clueless and ignorant or intentionally stupid. When you send in a mail in ballot, you can track when it gets...

Good god you are either completely clueless and ignorant or intentionally stupid. When you send in a mail in ballot, you can track when it gets counted. I was actually going to make a much longer post explaining more things about how secure mail in voting is, but it will fall on deaf ears with you. You don’t care about facts. No matter what, if your guy loses, it has to be fraud. That’s it. End of story. So it’s pointless to try to convince you guys otherwise. I’ll just continue to vote so my vote at least cancels out yours and people like you. You guys will just continue losing by millions of votes nationally, but always have a slim chance to win the Electoral College. Have fun in your little alternate reality because I know you will never come out of it back to the real world.

TM spelled it out for you but you refuse to understand. 

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ToolMaker wrote:
It's not the "voting by mail" that's a problem. It's the state sending out 5 gazillion ballots to people that didn't ask or deserve them. If...

It's not the "voting by mail" that's a problem. It's the state sending out 5 gazillion ballots to people that didn't ask or deserve them. If you go show an ID and ask to vote by mail. OK, but the way it is, all the ballots go out to unexpecting people that have no clue. Those ballots get returned filled out by other than the legitimate person who never knows. You also have delivery carriers that can just throw out ballots from a whole neighborhood in an area heavy leaning one side. Then, you also get counterfeit ballots mixed in. Just too much opportunity for fraud.

Good god you are either completely clueless and ignorant or intentionally stupid. When you send in a mail in ballot, you can track when it gets...

Good god you are either completely clueless and ignorant or intentionally stupid. When you send in a mail in ballot, you can track when it gets counted. I was actually going to make a much longer post explaining more things about how secure mail in voting is, but it will fall on deaf ears with you. You don’t care about facts. No matter what, if your guy loses, it has to be fraud. That’s it. End of story. So it’s pointless to try to convince you guys otherwise. I’ll just continue to vote so my vote at least cancels out yours and people like you. You guys will just continue losing by millions of votes nationally, but always have a slim chance to win the Electoral College. Have fun in your little alternate reality because I know you will never come out of it back to the real world.

TM spelled it out for you but you refuse to understand. 

Classic projection from you people. Always and forever. Never will change. Ever. 

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3/3/2024 9:57am
Good god you are either completely clueless and ignorant or intentionally stupid. When you send in a mail in ballot, you can track when it gets...

Good god you are either completely clueless and ignorant or intentionally stupid. When you send in a mail in ballot, you can track when it gets counted. I was actually going to make a much longer post explaining more things about how secure mail in voting is, but it will fall on deaf ears with you. You don’t care about facts. No matter what, if your guy loses, it has to be fraud. That’s it. End of story. So it’s pointless to try to convince you guys otherwise. I’ll just continue to vote so my vote at least cancels out yours and people like you. You guys will just continue losing by millions of votes nationally, but always have a slim chance to win the Electoral College. Have fun in your little alternate reality because I know you will never come out of it back to the real world.

TM spelled it out for you but you refuse to understand. 

Classic projection from you people. Always and forever. Never will change. Ever. 

A bit of reading comprehension issues?

It used to be you had to ask for a mail in ballot, typically with a reason why you can't vote in person. When you ASK, you are already expecting to get it in the mail and have the "intent" to vote. You might follow up to confirm. When the state just sends ballots out to people who don't care or haven't any intent to vote, who do you think will follow up on the accuracy? Or check that the ballot is filled out by the legitimate voter. Doesn't happen, ripe for fraud.

Good God man, get a clue!

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TM spelled it out for you but you refuse to understand. 

Classic projection from you people. Always and forever. Never will change. Ever. 

ToolMaker wrote:
A bit of reading comprehension issues? It used to be you had to ask for a mail in ballot, typically with a reason why you can't...

A bit of reading comprehension issues?

It used to be you had to ask for a mail in ballot, typically with a reason why you can't vote in person. When you ASK, you are already expecting to get it in the mail and have the "intent" to vote. You might follow up to confirm. When the state just sends ballots out to people who don't care or haven't any intent to vote, who do you think will follow up on the accuracy? Or check that the ballot is filled out by the legitimate voter. Doesn't happen, ripe for fraud.

Good God man, get a clue!

Not even worth my time. Brain dead cult member who can’t accept his dude lost. That’s all you are.

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