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$6440 OTD is a steal. Almost robbery...
Let's not forget that RMZs are probably the most reliable bike also.
I'm the same. I've owned and raced multiple RMZ's over the years and even won some AA off road races on them, my favorite bikes (Suzuki in general is my favorite brand) and when I'm vet status and not pushing as much I see myself going back to them. If they added E start and simply didn't gain weight doing that, and the aftermarket parts were better, I'd be in!
A few years ago I wasn't getting much help with bikes so I bought a 2018 RMZ450 and then found out I couldn't even buy a flywheel weight for it. I rode it for a few months, stalling out in gnarly singletrack and having to kickstart with my fused ankle and foot with hardware was painful too. For now I love my KX250/450 and will continue ripping it up on them!
Lots of truth in there but you shouldn't even bother. He just sounds mad that he gets passed by Suzuki, Kove, and SSR bikes.
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It's not nonsense friend. Suzuki support of motorcycle sport is miniscule compared to every major manufacturer, it's not debatable. The contingency offered is a weak point, you can see how few Suzukis compete, you bet the manufacturer knows they won't have pay out much. Ask yourself if there would be pro racing at all if all makers offered the same level of support, or lack of for the sport that Suzuki does? Of course there wouldn't be, if you look at how they abandoned motogp after they won a championship two years prior, you know nobody trusts them on a pro level. Even KRoc is talking with Ducati. Suzuki gives no shit.
Honest question, did you hear how Suzuki treated MXGP teams as reported by Lewis Phillips? How Suzuki shit on the Stribos and Wilcov teams? It's pretty telling.
I didn’t listen to Lewis Phillips. And honestly, I’m not bringing Pro racing into the equation. There’s a lot of politics involved. I’m aware Decoster asked for more support and didn’t get it. I know they pulled out of MotoGP and MXGP. I don’t know all the details with why, but my guess is they didn’t see it as being worth it. I know that the President of Suzuki is still the same old dude and I know he’s frugal and conservative.
But… I’m simply stating what the facts are. Don’t take my comments as being directed solely towards you. I know that they could do a lot more. I don’t know every detail. Maybe they will stop making RMZ’s. (I doubt it though) I’m just saying it’s not as bad as people make it out to be.
BTW. I’ve been riding KTM brand motorcycles for the last 9 years and haven’t bought a new Suzuki since 2012.
No offense taken, just know Suzuki has shit on a lot of people besides pro race teams. How about them stealing the full floater idea, or smuggling out of eastern Europe two stroke tech?
"Suzuki gives no shit."
Got a news flash for ya. None of the OEMs give a shit. They will cut ANY rider loose at any time and not blink an eye and sleep like a baby over it. Its business, no surprise there.
As for KRoc talking with Ducati; every guy who is riding a bike for pay, is "talking" with other outfits to ride for pay. Everybody on the gate is always looking for a better deal. Its business, no surprise there either.
Understood, you think Suzuki supports the sport just as much and at the level as Honda, KTM, Yamaha, or any of the other makers. Even Aprilia honors their agreement with MotoGP though. That kind of stuff matters to me, support the makers that support our sport. Lot of people it doesn't matter too, that is none of my business.
After reading this thread I just want to know what a fucking Kove is? I assume it's a "new Chinese version" of some other bike? Or is it an Indian?
Is it a serious bike or you guys just mocking them like all the other shit?
I mean it was listed with triumph, Ducati, beta like we supposed to take them serious?
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Hell ya
thanks for being there for me for physical support during this hard fitting time.
Ah yes, huge thanks to KTM group for all of their support of the sport by…
*checks notes*
… making bikes unaffordable.
Because nothing has been better for the sport than pushing the cost of bikes north of $11,000 dollars. Meanwhile Suzuki will happily sell the average joe rider the same “old” RMZ 450 that just won a supercross main for nearly the same price they sold them for 15 years ago.
Maybe if we’re all lucky KTM will keep “supporting the sport” even harder and start charging us $15k soon. Why stop there? Charge us $20k for a 450 to really show they care.
Sorry man, nothing old about it. You're worried about plastics? For guys on a budget, this is a gift from the heavens. People like to bitch for the sake of bitching. Little children complaining about Kick-Start, remember, RC4 did all his work on a kick start bike, he didn't complain like a little child. JS7 too. They managed, no problems. Give it up to Suzuki for ignoring the idiots, offering an affordable platform, for the guys on a budget that don't want the hassle of buying someone elses problems!
Some funny things here...
If you ever owned a RM and a KTM you should know the difference!
The quality of my 03 and 06 RMs were just painful. Linkage, crank and gearbox bearings, clutch basket, gears, cranks, all that seemed to be made of the cheapest steel they could find. I had to replace all the parts after one year racing, what a piece of crap.
My KTM on the other hand still has the original gears, linkage, clutch basket and stuff after 5 years of racing the bike. It simply keeps running!
I would never buy a RM again, even for 3 grand cause the KTMs are just on another level in terms of quality and construction. They rode great with the exception of the available power, but the SX250 is something else
That has nothing to do with fanboy stuff, it's just real world experience from racing MX.
So yes, thanks KTM
From where? I called ride now yesterday and they quoted me 8400 OTD I just hung up
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If you can't afford dirt bikes, buy a used one, I believe we all had to at one time. I can't afford a private jet, that doesn't mean it's Cessna's fault, that is my fault isn't it. Nobody is keeping secrets as to where money comes from. Again, specifically, would there be AMA Superbike, Flat Track, GNCC, Enduro, Sprint Enduro, ISDE, Dakar, Arenacross, WSBK, MotoGP, MXGP let alone AMA MX/SX/SMX if all manufacturers behaved like Suzuki? Last I heard KTM group even helps USA riders on other brands at the Six Days. I believe Yamaha even offers grants to clubs building trails. And as far as individual riders being "thrown away", Matasevitch stated in a interview how even now Kawasaki gives him free bikes, and I believe Yamaha does the same for a lot of their former stars.
Are you really comparing quality between 21 and 18 year old RMs vs a 5 year old SX? Count your blessings you didn’t have an early 2000s SX instead because those things were nothing to write home about. Meanwhile that timeframe RM was pretty widely beloved for its time. It’s even still highly regarded today.
https://dirtbikemagazine.com/the-last-full-2-stroke-shootout-the-wrap/
https://motocrossactionmag.com/mxa-bikes-of-the-year-1980-2018-250-two-…
Now if we want to compare current day models you can fairly attack the RMZ for being dated and less cutting edge than the KTM, but unreliable it is not. Assembly lines cranking out basically the same parts for 10+ years tend to have that effect.
What is with the mouth foaming suzuki hatred? Its nonsense. I feel like I'm at a powerstroke/duramax/cummins pissing match.
Yes you can buy used, but if I can buy a new zero-hour RMZ for nearly the same price or less as a high-hour used other brand, I think that’s an easy choice. And I don’t disagree with you on support for racers and pro series, but for regular weekend warrior riders the sport has gotten worse.
Back when even *new* bikes were affordable there were several tracks in my area that had full parking lots every weekend. Then the ‘08 crisis hit, bikes started getting more expensive, and the sport has never fully recovered here. The handful of public tracks that are still around are just scraping by with a fraction of the riders they had back in the day.
This surely isn’t the case everywhere but is where I’m from and it’s been tough to see. I firmly believe if the sport had an OEM that would prioritize putting out a decent bike for a reasonable price (looking at you, Suzuki) for people who just want to ride it would do nothing but benefit the sport.
Buy a new leftover model, plenty out there.
That’s what a Suzuki is.
I guess some of these guys wont be happy until the Zook bikes are gone from production completely.
Bizarre times we are living in today. 1st World whining is off the charts.
People get upset seeing a cheaper bike succeed because then they can’t justify the thousands extra they spent for theirs.
Same mentality as people bragging about their $400 Yeti coolers when a $25 Igloo keeps your beer just as cold. Some think buying the fanciest/latest/most expensive option makes them superior and get pissed when they realize it isn’t true.
I thought I read on here that KTM was buying Suzuki
Honestly, I have no idea what a Kove is other than seeing it referenced on this site haha
As in 2023 model.
Suzuki didn't initially offer the RMZ line as an affordable option. It's an affordable option because Suzuki has learned people will keep buying RMZs with no reinvestment from Suzuki at all. It would be easy to figure Suzuki makes more money off each RMZ than Kawasaki, Yamaha, or any of the other makers because Suzuki has spent zero on research and development and race support and people still buy the bikes even with no updates.
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