Moto journalists and politics.

Does anyone else find it crazy that most riders and industry people are conservative yet so many in moto “media” are die hard liberals. I can’t understand how anyone who enjoys moto could cheer on a party that strips freedoms to enjoy the outdoors. 

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2/8/2024 11:16am

I still find it unusual how concerned people are with other’s party preference. For the record, I lean conservative.

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ML512 wrote:

I still find it unusual how concerned people are with other’s party preference. For the record, I lean conservative.

As are most whose income is based on discretionary spending. 

Which is indeed the moto industry. 

As well as the upper end homebuilding industry I'm fortunate enough to have made a very comfortable living off of.

 

Pretty much all of the like minded people I converse with here are the same.

Hard working, self motivated, ass busters who earn everything they have.

Few left leaners in that category. 

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2/8/2024 11:44am

There's gotta be a "Lewis is a commie" joke somewhere. Silly

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2/8/2024 12:02pm
Does anyone else find it crazy that most riders and industry people are conservative yet so many in moto “media” are die hard liberals. I can’t...

Does anyone else find it crazy that most riders and industry people are conservative yet so many in moto “media” are die hard liberals. I can’t understand how anyone who enjoys moto could cheer on a party that strips freedoms to enjoy the outdoors. 

In general, "journalists" come from academia which indoctrinates people left. Pretty sure "moto journalists" did not come into their position by being a "journalist" and moving into the "moto" arena vs being in the moto world and having the skills to do journalistic work and then become "moto journalists".

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ML512 wrote:

I still find it unusual how concerned people are with other’s party preference. For the record, I lean conservative.

As I mentioned in other thread, at one time mentioning religion or politics in conversation with people you didn't know well was considered bad manners. And again how can someone's political opinions effect how you treat them?

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ML512 wrote:

I still find it unusual how concerned people are with other’s party preference. For the record, I lean conservative.

Spoonguy wrote:
As I mentioned in other thread, at one time mentioning religion or politics in conversation with people you didn't know well was considered bad manners. And...

As I mentioned in other thread, at one time mentioning religion or politics in conversation with people you didn't know well was considered bad manners. And again how can someone's political opinions effect how you treat them?

Most of the time it doesn't, that's why most of us get along in real life interacting with people of all stripes, reciprocal freedom.

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ML512 wrote:

I still find it unusual how concerned people are with other’s party preference. For the record, I lean conservative.

Spoonguy wrote:
As I mentioned in other thread, at one time mentioning religion or politics in conversation with people you didn't know well was considered bad manners. And...

As I mentioned in other thread, at one time mentioning religion or politics in conversation with people you didn't know well was considered bad manners. And again how can someone's political opinions effect how you treat them?

early wrote:

Most of the time it doesn't, that's why most of us get along in real life interacting with people of all stripes, reciprocal freedom.

Often times I learn more from someone I don't agree with than with someone whose views align my own. I enjoy counterpoints when they are informational rather than confrontational. 

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ML512 wrote:

I still find it unusual how concerned people are with other’s party preference. For the record, I lean conservative.

"Lean conservative" = Raging liberal................   jkjkjk

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2/8/2024 1:32pm

I'm sure this thread will turn out well.

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Please just keep it out of our sport.     Politics have ruined pretty much every other big name sport with all the f***king virtue signaling horseshit.    The NBA, NFL and MLB can suck it....  NASCAR always blew anyway.

This is why I don't want to see our sport grow....it will be devoured by all the bad things that come with the big leagues.

Keep us core/niche.

 

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2/8/2024 3:37pm

All the people who say "keep politics out of moto" will also tell you they love the war machine I mean military appreciation day. 

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mx332 wrote:

All the people who say "keep politics out of moto" will also tell you they love the war machine I mean military appreciation day. 

Lemme guess....you're one of those people who think it's a good idea to send out social workers instead of police to emergency calls....

Our military sacrifices are what protects you and gives you the freedoms you enjoy.    They should be honored...and it has nothing to do with what side of the aisle you're on.        

Peace through strength.   

 

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Does anyone else find it crazy that most riders and industry people are conservative yet so many in moto “media” are die hard liberals. I can’t...

Does anyone else find it crazy that most riders and industry people are conservative yet so many in moto “media” are die hard liberals. I can’t understand how anyone who enjoys moto could cheer on a party that strips freedoms to enjoy the outdoors. 

ToolMaker wrote:
In general, "journalists" come from academia which indoctrinates people left. Pretty sure "moto journalists" did not come into their position by being a "journalist" and moving...

In general, "journalists" come from academia which indoctrinates people left. Pretty sure "moto journalists" did not come into their position by being a "journalist" and moving into the "moto" arena vs being in the moto world and having the skills to do journalistic work and then become "moto journalists".

There's no indoctrination, it's just that people who get exposed to more ideas and are better educated tend to lean more towards one political party. For what it's worth I had some very conservative college professors and some very liberal ones. I'm an independent voter who has some very conservative monetary ideas, very liberal social ideas, and some very libertarian government intervention ideas. I like internal combustion engines, but also admit that fossil fuels are changing the climate. I like wild areas that can't be developed, but believe that multipurpose trails should be allowed so people can access the wilderness. I have guns and think they're fun, but also think that people should be licensed to be able to purchase/own/operate them, just like most dangerous things in society.

For what it's worth I also have made a very comfortable life working in the trades and find a surprising amount of liberal guys in these fields. I've also lived in very conservative areas my entire life and know lots of very conservative lazy deadbeats. It's almost like your political affiliation doesn't have to reflect your life situation, morals, or work ambitions.

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2/10/2024 10:13am

"and are better educated tend to lean more towards one political party."

Dunning–Kruger 

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2/10/2024 11:06am
Does anyone else find it crazy that most riders and industry people are conservative yet so many in moto “media” are die hard liberals. I can’t...

Does anyone else find it crazy that most riders and industry people are conservative yet so many in moto “media” are die hard liberals. I can’t understand how anyone who enjoys moto could cheer on a party that strips freedoms to enjoy the outdoors. 

ToolMaker wrote:
In general, "journalists" come from academia which indoctrinates people left. Pretty sure "moto journalists" did not come into their position by being a "journalist" and moving...

In general, "journalists" come from academia which indoctrinates people left. Pretty sure "moto journalists" did not come into their position by being a "journalist" and moving into the "moto" arena vs being in the moto world and having the skills to do journalistic work and then become "moto journalists".

Timo wrote:
There's no indoctrination, it's just that people who get exposed to more ideas and are better educated tend to lean more towards one political party. For...

There's no indoctrination, it's just that people who get exposed to more ideas and are better educated tend to lean more towards one political party. For what it's worth I had some very conservative college professors and some very liberal ones. I'm an independent voter who has some very conservative monetary ideas, very liberal social ideas, and some very libertarian government intervention ideas. I like internal combustion engines, but also admit that fossil fuels are changing the climate. I like wild areas that can't be developed, but believe that multipurpose trails should be allowed so people can access the wilderness. I have guns and think they're fun, but also think that people should be licensed to be able to purchase/own/operate them, just like most dangerous things in society.

For what it's worth I also have made a very comfortable life working in the trades and find a surprising amount of liberal guys in these fields. I've also lived in very conservative areas my entire life and know lots of very conservative lazy deadbeats. It's almost like your political affiliation doesn't have to reflect your life situation, morals, or work ambitions.

"There's no indoctrination"

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rc51 wrote:

"and are better educated tend to lean more towards one political party."

Dunning–Kruger 

Real world education figuring out how to think, or an education where you pay big money to be told what to think by a government regulated business posing as a school?

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2/10/2024 4:19pm
Does anyone else find it crazy that most riders and industry people are conservative yet so many in moto “media” are die hard liberals. I can’t...

Does anyone else find it crazy that most riders and industry people are conservative yet so many in moto “media” are die hard liberals. I can’t understand how anyone who enjoys moto could cheer on a party that strips freedoms to enjoy the outdoors. 

ToolMaker wrote:
In general, "journalists" come from academia which indoctrinates people left. Pretty sure "moto journalists" did not come into their position by being a "journalist" and moving...

In general, "journalists" come from academia which indoctrinates people left. Pretty sure "moto journalists" did not come into their position by being a "journalist" and moving into the "moto" arena vs being in the moto world and having the skills to do journalistic work and then become "moto journalists".

Timo wrote:
There's no indoctrination, it's just that people who get exposed to more ideas and are better educated tend to lean more towards one political party. For...

There's no indoctrination, it's just that people who get exposed to more ideas and are better educated tend to lean more towards one political party. For what it's worth I had some very conservative college professors and some very liberal ones. I'm an independent voter who has some very conservative monetary ideas, very liberal social ideas, and some very libertarian government intervention ideas. I like internal combustion engines, but also admit that fossil fuels are changing the climate. I like wild areas that can't be developed, but believe that multipurpose trails should be allowed so people can access the wilderness. I have guns and think they're fun, but also think that people should be licensed to be able to purchase/own/operate them, just like most dangerous things in society.

For what it's worth I also have made a very comfortable life working in the trades and find a surprising amount of liberal guys in these fields. I've also lived in very conservative areas my entire life and know lots of very conservative lazy deadbeats. It's almost like your political affiliation doesn't have to reflect your life situation, morals, or work ambitions.

So you want to keep your money but spend others on bullshit social ideas. Got it 

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Timo wrote:
There's no indoctrination, it's just that people who get exposed to more ideas and are better educated tend to lean more towards one political party. For...

There's no indoctrination, it's just that people who get exposed to more ideas and are better educated tend to lean more towards one political party. For what it's worth I had some very conservative college professors and some very liberal ones. I'm an independent voter who has some very conservative monetary ideas, very liberal social ideas, and some very libertarian government intervention ideas. I like internal combustion engines, but also admit that fossil fuels are changing the climate. I like wild areas that can't be developed, but believe that multipurpose trails should be allowed so people can access the wilderness. I have guns and think they're fun, but also think that people should be licensed to be able to purchase/own/operate them, just like most dangerous things in society.

For what it's worth I also have made a very comfortable life working in the trades and find a surprising amount of liberal guys in these fields. I've also lived in very conservative areas my entire life and know lots of very conservative lazy deadbeats. It's almost like your political affiliation doesn't have to reflect your life situation, morals, or work ambitions.

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We had an employee that started with us a few years ago, very smart girl and a great worker. She was actually the first person we promoted to be a shift lead and she did an excellent job.

She got accepted into Columbia University, so she went off for her first year at Columbia.

She came back home for the summer after her first year was over, and had contacted us to see if we had any openings for the summer while she was back in Phoenix. Given her prior track record (great employee) we were happy to have her come back for a few months.

It was like she came back a completely different person. She was very outspoken about all the "injustices" in the world (basically all the Democrat talking points about racism, white supremacy, capitalism, social programs, Trump bad, etc.). She also played the victim card quite often, if any other staff questioned her on anything she was being "bullied". She thought she knew everything, and her version of any subject was the only one that mattered.

It was shocking to see how a person can change so much in less than 1 year. We stopped scheduling her after a few weeks, she was just causing too much drama with the other staff.

I have heard from other staff that follow her social media that she is now about to graduate, and part of her graduation "present" from the University is that she now has $300,000 in student loans....

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2/11/2024 10:41am

boooo - all posts that mentioned GuyB got tossed. :-( 

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