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2/20/2010 11:35pm
Guess I never looked at the pit board that close lol...woopsSmile
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2/21/2010 7:54am
Kyle should have let Ryan in that one lined corner. After that Ryan lost his rhythm and wasn't close enough to make the pass. The announcers kept saying let him by but already lost it. You know who is worse then Kyle? Jeff Alessi
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Kyle should have let Ryan in that one lined corner. After that Ryan lost his rhythm and wasn't close enough to make the pass. The announcers...
Kyle should have let Ryan in that one lined corner. After that Ryan lost his rhythm and wasn't close enough to make the pass. The announcers kept saying let him by but already lost it. You know who is worse then Kyle? Jeff Alessi
yeah and Adam chatfield who didnt moved the f**k outta Sipes way

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2/21/2010 8:21am
I agree with you guys for the most part kyle should have pulled over earlier but he did pull out of the main line in the whoops and dungey still did'nt pass him.
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2/21/2010 8:35am
ktm764 wrote:
I agree with you guys for the most part kyle should have pulled over earlier but he did pull out of the main line in the...
I agree with you guys for the most part kyle should have pulled over earlier but he did pull out of the main line in the whoops and dungey still did'nt pass him.
yea when kyle moves over, dungey makes a mistake and looses a bunch of time in the main line. also remember that kyle is racing for positions too, hes still trying to get into the top ten in points (which is a BIG deal for guys like him). and RC and Emig dont really know what its like to be in chisholms position, they were always in RV/RD position.
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if he didnt get around Chisholm what makes you think he would have gotten arounf RV. Lappers are part of the racing folks always has been always will be . quit crying about it
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2/21/2010 8:40am
To say that Kyle is racing for position is BS....... the blue flag means one thing and IMO should be enforced much more.... it's too bad that a lapped rider is able to influence the outcome of the top finishers.
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2/21/2010 8:49am
I honostly think KC is color blind, BLUE looks GREEN
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he needs to learn what blue means.
is he colour blind or is he wearing dark tint goggles at night?
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2/21/2010 9:01am
I wondered why that blue bike wasn't getting out of the way....

Didn't want to get passed by the guy behind him, I guess.
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That track was so one lined Big Lenny would have to walk sideway's to get through the turns....
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2/21/2010 9:06am
all its there for is to say look there are faster riders coming up to lap you. but its dumb because you may pull over and go from 10-15 in some races because you think that the leader is passing you
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2/21/2010 9:37am
penalize him a few positions, maybe then he'll get it !

all he had to do is get out of the racing line for a turn, wtf man?
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2/21/2010 10:18am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 8:55pm
Being that the blue flag doesn't hold your position, i dont blame riders for not always just pulling over. They are racing for every spot they can get and every dollar they can earn. I have been screwed by lappers more than a few times, as many racers have. It just has to be known that they are a part of the race (RD didnt seem to find it a big deal becaue he understands that). Look at how many issues there have been with lappers already this season, just coincidence? I say AMA needs to look at a possible change to the rule so the blue flag holds your position to let a leader by.

On the flip side, look at how many races get tightened up at the end by the lappers. RD would have never gotten close to RV unless for RV getting into lappers. There have been many races over history that were exciting to watch because lappers tightened up the race at the end. So maybe be careful what you wish for, there could be goods and bads. I think the announcers went pretty overboard about grilling Chisholm.
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2/21/2010 10:49am
He used the blue flag to pass Boni? but doesn't let the leaders by? BS everyone else was geting out of the way, if they can, he could too.
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2/21/2010 10:52am
mcphilly wrote:
if he didnt get around Chisholm what makes you think he would have gotten arounf RV. Lappers are part of the racing folks always has been...
if he didnt get around Chisholm what makes you think he would have gotten arounf RV. Lappers are part of the racing folks always has been always will be . quit crying about it
But it's ok for other riders say...James to bitch about lappers, but no one else? hmm
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2/21/2010 11:42am
Remember the article Larry Brooks wrote about lappers and how all of you bitched at him for it?
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Renner153 wrote:
all its there for is to say look there are faster riders coming up to lap you. but its dumb because you may pull over and...
all its there for is to say look there are faster riders coming up to lap you. but its dumb because you may pull over and go from 10-15 in some races because you think that the leader is passing you
Would that have been the case though? I mean he is a decent rider, he knows how to look around in the air to see whats happening around him before he slows up to let the leaders by, it sure didnt seem like he had 5 other riders racing with him...
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2/21/2010 12:04pm
He just needs to learn the flags and get a warning. Next time a penalty.
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Renner153 wrote:
all its there for is to say look there are faster riders coming up to lap you. but its dumb because you may pull over and...
all its there for is to say look there are faster riders coming up to lap you. but its dumb because you may pull over and go from 10-15 in some races because you think that the leader is passing you
adamdf wrote:
Would that have been the case though? I mean he is a decent rider, he knows how to look around in the air to see whats...
Would that have been the case though? I mean he is a decent rider, he knows how to look around in the air to see whats happening around him before he slows up to let the leaders by, it sure didnt seem like he had 5 other riders racing with him...
Actually, he passed a rider thanks tot the flag.
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2/21/2010 12:17pm
mmcmx wrote:
He used the blue flag to pass Boni? but doesn't let the leaders by? BS everyone else was geting out of the way, if they can...
He used the blue flag to pass Boni? but doesn't let the leaders by? BS everyone else was geting out of the way, if they can, he could too.
I was beginning to think I was the only one to see that. KC used the blue flag to pass Boni. What an asshole.
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2/21/2010 12:20pm
Real simple solution...

Race official: Kyle this isn't the first time you've ignored the blue flag and gotten in the way.
Kyle: Hey dude I'm racing for race position and the season overall...
Race Official: Well now you'll be sitting out next week. So now you won't be racing for for either. Congratulations.
Kyle: But...
Race official: But nothing. You're not racing fast enough to be a factor on the podium and other than your Mom, no one is here to see you race. Do it again and you'll be watching from the sidelines for a year.


END OF PROBLEM.
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2/21/2010 12:24pm
mcphilly wrote:
if he didnt get around Chisholm what makes you think he would have gotten arounf RV. Lappers are part of the racing folks always has been...
if he didnt get around Chisholm what makes you think he would have gotten arounf RV. Lappers are part of the racing folks always has been always will be . quit crying about it
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But it's ok for other riders say...James to bitch about lappers, but no one else? hmm
Obsession...
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2/21/2010 12:36pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 8:55pm
2010 AMA Rule Book


Section 4.15


b. Warning Flags


2. Solid Blue Flag:

- Indicates you are about to be overtaken by faster riders.

- When conditions allow, move out of the fast line.

- Hold your line (don't ride erratically) and do not impede the faster riders progress.

- Riders disregarding this flag may be black-flagged at the discretion of the race director.



So if FIM referee John Gallagher adhered to the letter of the law, as the rule is written, he should black flag every rider who receives, then disregards, a blue flag when there is a rider coming up behind him that beat him the week before or qualified faster than him that night.


Clearly, as the rule is written it is too vague to enforce. It doesn't even specify that the rider he slows down for has to be lapping him.


Chisholm was racing for position against a bunch of guys. He has been hauling ass lately and his results have improved every week. He's knocking on the door of the top-ten after missing round one. As Renner pointed out, it's pretty easy to get passed by the guys you've been dicing with for the past 15 minutes if you back off too much because you got the blue flag.


Believe me, the guys (Dungey, Villopoto) who are lapping guys like Chisholm 18 laps into a race are obviously fast enough to pass him without him having to jeopardize his own position. Dungey knows this and I doubt he has any ill will towards Kyle.
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Gma B knows her moto!

Classic.

She nailed it.
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2/21/2010 1:17pm
Chisholm didn't have near the effect on Dungey's progress that RC made it sound like.
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2/21/2010 1:23pm
The fact is that he was aware enough to use the blue flag to pass someone, but not aware enough to get the hell out of RV's and RD's way. It would be different if this was the first time this happened but history shows it is not. I think after lap 17 they should start giving the checkered flag to anyone that looks to be passed in the next 3 laps. Would not affect the outcome of the leaders and wouldn't penalize the riders that are being lapped. They would get the same position they were in when they got the checkered.
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Ing wrote:
The fact is that he was aware enough to use the blue flag to pass someone, but not aware enough to get the hell out of...
The fact is that he was aware enough to use the blue flag to pass someone, but not aware enough to get the hell out of RV's and RD's way. It would be different if this was the first time this happened but history shows it is not. I think after lap 17 they should start giving the checkered flag to anyone that looks to be passed in the next 3 laps. Would not affect the outcome of the leaders and wouldn't penalize the riders that are being lapped. They would get the same position they were in when they got the checkered.
Some of you guys are full of shit
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2/21/2010 1:39pm
Last I checked lapper's are part of the race. The better racers get around them and do not worry about a blue flag.

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