Has Tomac Gone a year to long?

1/7/2024 11:38pm
DonM wrote:

This thread is dumb just like the Jett is going to beat MC’s record for the same reason…it’s one fucking race…

So Mcgrath didn't start with one race ?

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1/8/2024 1:15am
DonM wrote:

This thread is dumb just like the Jett is going to beat MC’s record for the same reason…it’s one fucking race…

That’s what everyone was saying after just the first round of outdoors. We all know how that went.

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1/8/2024 1:18am
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Eli was very disappointing. He is my favorite rider. That main was hard to watch. We started seeing his decline last year. But somehow I convinced...

Eli was very disappointing. He is my favorite rider. That main was hard to watch. We started seeing his decline last year. But somehow I convinced myself that he was going to be the old Eli this year.

At least he milked a few more million dollars from Star.

You started to see a decline in a year where he would have won the title, had it not been for a freak injury? 

Let’s face it. Before Eli got hurt last season. He was not super impressive. He was lucky Chase was always being Chase with his crashes. We have not seen the true Eli beast mode in quite some time. It’s going to take beast mode to be beat Jett. 

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1/8/2024 1:58am

Not sure it will take beast mode to beat Jett but it will take some great starts.  And that goes for everyone else.

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1/8/2024 2:36am
SteveB wrote:

Not sure it will take beast mode to beat Jett but it will take some great starts.  And that goes for everyone else.

It will take a great start and hopefully a bad start by Jett. 

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1/8/2024 3:30am
TeamGreen wrote:
The internet is the bestest. I come to threads like this to remind me of that fact. 

The internet is the bestest. I come to threads like this to remind me of that fact. Laughing

Always cracks me up reading threads here, and elsewhere around the internet. 

People create mountainous drama from shit racers, from all types of motorsports, don't even consider molehills. 

Hell, just the thread titles tell you what a shit show will be contained inside.

 

And here you have the same kids arguing back and forth about it.

 

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1/8/2024 5:31am Edited Date/Time 1/8/2024 5:32am
TeamGreen wrote:
The internet is the bestest. I come to threads like this to remind me of that fact. 

The internet is the bestest. I come to threads like this to remind me of that fact. Laughing

Always cracks me up reading threads here, and elsewhere around the internet.  People create mountainous drama from shit racers, from all types of motorsports, don't even...

Always cracks me up reading threads here, and elsewhere around the internet. 

People create mountainous drama from shit racers, from all types of motorsports, don't even consider molehills. 

Hell, just the thread titles tell you what a shit show will be contained inside.

 

And here you have the same kids arguing back and forth about it.

 

Isn’t that what a message board is for? People to debate and discuss their opinions on a specific category.
 

Vital would be out of business if it was just a place for smart people like you to post facts. That no one could debate.

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1/8/2024 5:58am
DonM wrote:

This thread is dumb just like the Jett is going to beat MC’s record for the same reason…it’s one fucking race…

valveless wrote:

That’s what everyone was saying after just the first round of outdoors. We all know how that went.

It's one race.....

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1/8/2024 6:01am
DonM wrote:

This thread is dumb just like the Jett is going to beat MC’s record for the same reason…it’s one fucking race…

So Mcgrath didn't start with one race ?

Sure he did but did the world claim he was going break all the records after one race? Like I said it's just one race and its a little foolish talking about breaking records after one race...

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1/8/2024 6:10am
DonM wrote:

This thread is dumb just like the Jett is going to beat MC’s record for the same reason…it’s one fucking race…

So Mcgrath didn't start with one race ?

DonM wrote:
Sure he did but did the world claim he was going break all the records after one race? Like I said it's just one race and...

Sure he did but did the world claim he was going break all the records after one race? Like I said it's just one race and its a little foolish talking about breaking records after one race...

That was during the infancy of public internet . If people had the ability to post the first thought that came into their head back then it probably would have been the same .

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1/8/2024 6:36am
DonM wrote:

This thread is dumb just like the Jett is going to beat MC’s record for the same reason…it’s one fucking race…

The possibility that Tomac’s career is in decline is much more likely and relevant for discussion than Jett breaking a record that will be years away.

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1/8/2024 7:50am

Other than last year, Eli has not done well at A1 in the past. It was right around how he has finished in the past. But it looked like he was not trying as hard, and not making the mistakes that have resulted in the results of the past openers. I figured he was not going to be risking it all for the win. Just tipping his toe in and getting back into the swing of things.

I agree that 1 race is too quick to say Eli is done, or that Jett will win another 72 races . But I will say that Jet is putting pressure on himself by talking about going for the 72 wins.  I thought that  Torteli was already the first to win their first SX race in the big bike class.  I looked around and only saw Torteli had done 125 races before getting the win. Maybe I missed it where he had raced a 250 before getting that win.  The pressure of being the first to ever win their first  big bike SX race, and everybody talking about how much he will win. I wonder if that might have turned into confidence instead of pressure. Just believing it so strongly that instead of it making it harder to pull off, it helped him.

  I was thinking that the first win would be the hardest. But maybe not if he is thinking the way it looks like. For most racers they have to get that first win to get the confidence to really know they can win. And that generally helps make their next win, or podium finishes easier mentally.  Jett will be fun to watch this year. I hope he  and everybody else stays healthy and there are some great battles.  Bummer for Hunter, I think that Hunter's bad night adds to the impressiveness of Jetts mental strength and confidence. I wonder if it threw jett off and how much? I'm looking forward to seeing Hunter get up there and see what he can do.  Also glad there is some racing going on again.

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1/8/2024 7:58am

When they showed Eli during those last laps it looked like he was just rolling around . Fatigue , arm pump , whatever it was he was visibly just cruising.  From timing and scoring it looked like he dropped anchor about the halfway mark .

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1/8/2024 7:59am Edited Date/Time 1/8/2024 8:00am
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What do you think that Sexton would have said if Jett was not around and Sexton won the races he raced?.  He also said that he...

What do you think that Sexton would have said if Jett was not around and Sexton won the races he raced?. 
He also said that he felt that the pace was higher in 23 than 22.

we will see what happen, i just think it’s interesting how people can be so sure about Tomacs speed when he clearly lacked just speed in 23 sx and what you americans love to call ”beast mode” never showed up.

And when i say he lacked speed = was not the fastest on track. And the bar for being fastest on track have been raised in 24.

“…you americans…”

And there it is, folks, plain as day.

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1/8/2024 8:14am
valveless wrote:
Eli was very disappointing. He is my favorite rider. That main was hard to watch. We started seeing his decline last year. But somehow I convinced...

Eli was very disappointing. He is my favorite rider. That main was hard to watch. We started seeing his decline last year. But somehow I convinced myself that he was going to be the old Eli this year.

At least he milked a few more million dollars from Star.

You started to see a decline in a year where he would have won the title, had it not been for a freak injury? 

valveless wrote:
Let’s face it. Before Eli got hurt last season. He was not super impressive. He was lucky Chase was always being Chase with his crashes. We...

Let’s face it. Before Eli got hurt last season. He was not super impressive. He was lucky Chase was always being Chase with his crashes. We have not seen the true Eli beast mode in quite some time. It’s going to take beast mode to be beat Jett. 

Are we talking about the same guy? You know, the one that would have WON the championship had he not got hurt. Just curious.

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1/8/2024 8:26am

He will make at least $2 million this year…… 😂

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1/8/2024 8:50am Edited Date/Time 1/8/2024 8:52am
Magoofan wrote:

Should I not have eaten that gas station sushi.....

Gas Station Sushi   -- good name for a punk band.

 

I think Eli came back because he didn't want to go out on an injury, the chips will fall where they do this year but he's racing.  

 

1/8/2024 11:07am
Revisit this post at round 15 and see who is in the conversation still. The reason most A1 winners don’t follow with a championship is because...

Revisit this post at round 15 and see who is in the conversation still. The reason most A1 winners don’t follow with a championship is because you do not want to be at your peak form at the first race of a sixth month, long series, or a 10 month long series if you include the whole SMX

valveless wrote:

So you think Jett is just at his peak early and will fizzle out as the season goes on? I hope you’re right!

TeamGreen wrote:

I think what most of us know is…it’s a long season with A LOT of racing…and…just like in Jett’s Heat Race, last night…

Shit Happens 

I know, jett sucked at the last 20 races after he won round one last summer, in the heat going 30+2......

1/8/2024 11:09am

You started to see a decline in a year where he would have won the title, had it not been for a freak injury? 

valveless wrote:
Let’s face it. Before Eli got hurt last season. He was not super impressive. He was lucky Chase was always being Chase with his crashes. We...

Let’s face it. Before Eli got hurt last season. He was not super impressive. He was lucky Chase was always being Chase with his crashes. We have not seen the true Eli beast mode in quite some time. It’s going to take beast mode to be beat Jett. 

ToolMaker wrote:

Are we talking about the same guy? You know, the one that would have WON the championship had he not got hurt. Just curious.

If its and buts, were candies and nuts, wouldn't we all be happy......

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1/8/2024 11:37am
DonM wrote:

This thread is dumb just like the Jett is going to beat MC’s record for the same reason…it’s one fucking race…

So Mcgrath didn't start with one race ?

Apparently not…

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1/8/2024 11:52am
DonM wrote:

This thread is dumb just like the Jett is going to beat MC’s record for the same reason…it’s one fucking race…

So Mcgrath didn't start with one race ?

jjavaman wrote:

Apparently not…

I'm looking for where MC said he was going to beat RJ's record before his first SX race, can't seem to find it.....

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1/8/2024 12:36pm
Kawboy14! wrote:

He will make at least $2 million this year…… 😂

Yup!!! And probably win a couple of events to cap off one of the best careers the sport has seen. And done it with class. The guy literally had the championship taken away from him last year while doing it in a new for him smart creative way. He overcame this mentally and just came back from Achilles surgery!!!! He's over 30 for goodness sake. Maybe he'll win again, or maybe he won't. The guy is not looking for a Swan Song or anything more than going out on his own terms. I think he earned that and deserves sooo much better than a thread like this. 

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1/8/2024 1:46pm
DonM wrote:

This thread is dumb just like the Jett is going to beat MC’s record for the same reason…it’s one fucking race…

So Mcgrath didn't start with one race ?

DonM wrote:
Sure he did but did the world claim he was going break all the records after one race? Like I said it's just one race and...

Sure he did but did the world claim he was going break all the records after one race? Like I said it's just one race and its a little foolish talking about breaking records after one race...

So you don’t set goals? That’s what these guys do. 

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1/8/2024 1:59pm

So Mcgrath didn't start with one race ?

DonM wrote:
Sure he did but did the world claim he was going break all the records after one race? Like I said it's just one race and...

Sure he did but did the world claim he was going break all the records after one race? Like I said it's just one race and its a little foolish talking about breaking records after one race...

So you don’t set goals? That’s what these guys do. 

Pretty sure MC wasn't saying anything about chasing records after his first win.... My comment was about how his fans start chirping about the record after one race....

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1/8/2024 2:11pm
DonM wrote:
Sure he did but did the world claim he was going break all the records after one race? Like I said it's just one race and...

Sure he did but did the world claim he was going break all the records after one race? Like I said it's just one race and its a little foolish talking about breaking records after one race...

So you don’t set goals? That’s what these guys do. 

DonM wrote:
Pretty sure MC wasn't saying anything about chasing records after his first win.... My comment was about how his fans start chirping about the record after...

Pretty sure MC wasn't saying anything about chasing records after his first win.... My comment was about how his fans start chirping about the record after one race....

Yeh I hear ya. But this is the first time since James that it “could” be in danger.

I’d love to see it beaten especially if he keeps doing outdoors. 

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1/8/2024 2:20pm

So you don’t set goals? That’s what these guys do. 

DonM wrote:
Pretty sure MC wasn't saying anything about chasing records after his first win.... My comment was about how his fans start chirping about the record after...

Pretty sure MC wasn't saying anything about chasing records after his first win.... My comment was about how his fans start chirping about the record after one race....

Yeh I hear ya. But this is the first time since James that it “could” be in danger. I’d love to see it beaten especially if...

Yeh I hear ya. But this is the first time since James that it “could” be in danger.

I’d love to see it beaten especially if he keeps doing outdoors. 

I'm pretty sure that these claims weren't being made after Stews first race....and we all see how that worked out...Talk to me when he hits 50SX wins....

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1/8/2024 2:30pm
DonM wrote:
Pretty sure MC wasn't saying anything about chasing records after his first win.... My comment was about how his fans start chirping about the record after...

Pretty sure MC wasn't saying anything about chasing records after his first win.... My comment was about how his fans start chirping about the record after one race....

Yeh I hear ya. But this is the first time since James that it “could” be in danger. I’d love to see it beaten especially if...

Yeh I hear ya. But this is the first time since James that it “could” be in danger.

I’d love to see it beaten especially if he keeps doing outdoors. 

DonM wrote:
I'm pretty sure that these claims weren't being made after Stews first race....and we all see how that worked out...Talk to me when he hits 50SX...

I'm pretty sure that these claims weren't being made after Stews first race....and we all see how that worked out...Talk to me when he hits 50SX wins....

If we are not going to have discussions and bench race. Talk about this stuff we might aswell shit down the forum.

Jetts on the biggest roll we have ever seen in mx/sx at his age. Why wouldn't we talk about this stuff.

 

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Yeh I hear ya. But this is the first time since James that it “could” be in danger. I’d love to see it beaten especially if...

Yeh I hear ya. But this is the first time since James that it “could” be in danger.

I’d love to see it beaten especially if he keeps doing outdoors. 

DonM wrote:
I'm pretty sure that these claims weren't being made after Stews first race....and we all see how that worked out...Talk to me when he hits 50SX...

I'm pretty sure that these claims weren't being made after Stews first race....and we all see how that worked out...Talk to me when he hits 50SX wins....

Yz450fkid wrote:
If we are not going to have discussions and bench race. Talk about this stuff we might aswell shit down the forum. Jetts on the biggest...

If we are not going to have discussions and bench race. Talk about this stuff we might aswell shit down the forum.

Jetts on the biggest roll we have ever seen in mx/sx at his age. Why wouldn't we talk about this stuff.

 

But we're not talking about his roll he's on (one race win) people are already convinced he's got 72 wins....and by doing so after one race does nothing but disrespect those that came before him....

 

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1/8/2024 3:43pm

No

1/8/2024 3:44pm

Bottom line is I'm happy he's out there racing again, even if it turns out he's not in the championship hunt he's a good dude to have in the sport. 

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