Biden/Harris 2024

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Edited Date/Time 10/8/2023 5:21am

I'm curious as to how many of you think that Biden will be the Dem nominee 1 year from now. I'll go out on a seldom visited limb here and predict No. I don't make predictions much any more because of how often I have been wrong but I cannot conjure any scenario where Biden is the choice. I think the DNC knows he would be a general election disaster but they have a problem with tradition in that a primary challenge by any highly ranked, loyal Democrat replacement is not likely and would end up delivering an even more damaged nominee when it's over. Sitting President's have the luxury of not having to be thrashed by their own party in a primary. 

My second prediction is that he will be replaced between the primaries and the convention where their own choice will be voted in , which used to be the way nominees were chosen.. A sudden health concern would be the most likely excuse. How they end up dealing with Harris is a bit more difficult but she would be as bad, if not worse that Biden.

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9/20/2023 7:27am

Zero chance. Can you say Michelle?

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9/20/2023 7:31am

i think he will be the demos guy as long as trump is the front runner for the gop.

if republicans get somebody who has more appeal to moderates like haley, scott, or a wildcard like youngkin, then the demos will panic and go full left field with newsome.

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9/20/2023 7:43am

Everyone knows he is a walking puppet, and they can use the his age and cognitive decline to have him exit the race.

The reason they don't want to do that is the tricky subject of how to skip Kamala and leave her behind. She has less of a chance than Joe even with all his age related issues.

Gavin is already primed and ready, they just can't make him the choice without figuring out a way of dealing with Kamala. 

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9/20/2023 7:54am
JustMX wrote:
i think he will be the demos guy as long as trump is the front runner for the gop. if republicans get somebody who has more...

i think he will be the demos guy as long as trump is the front runner for the gop.

if republicans get somebody who has more appeal to moderates like haley, scott, or a wildcard like youngkin, then the demos will panic and go full left field with newsome.

I agree with this one.

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9/20/2023 10:58am
AZ35 wrote:
Everyone knows he is a walking puppet, and they can use the his age and cognitive decline to have him exit the race. The reason they...

Everyone knows he is a walking puppet, and they can use the his age and cognitive decline to have him exit the race.

The reason they don't want to do that is the tricky subject of how to skip Kamala and leave her behind. She has less of a chance than Joe even with all his age related issues.

Gavin is already primed and ready, they just can't make him the choice without figuring out a way of dealing with Kamala. 

I can tell you this much from a few local democrat politicians out in Chicago and someone I knew in the WH until a few months back. No one in their loop thought Kamala was going to be this bad. They thought they could groom her and bring her up make her look like a strong candidate next to Biden. She wasn't just to get the black and female vote. But as we can painfully see she's just fuckin terrible.

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9/20/2023 11:19am

Gavin would be worse than Biden...Harris would be worse than Biden...And because I think Trump will be the GOP nominee, but will absolutely lose the general...I'd rather have Biden than Gavin or Harris...so I hope they can prop Biden up through the election, and hopefully get him a new VP...

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9/20/2023 11:24am
JustMX wrote:
i think he will be the demos guy as long as trump is the front runner for the gop. if republicans get somebody who has more...

i think he will be the demos guy as long as trump is the front runner for the gop.

if republicans get somebody who has more appeal to moderates like haley, scott, or a wildcard like youngkin, then the demos will panic and go full left field with newsome.

indy_maico wrote:

I agree with this one.

Also agree . 

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9/20/2023 12:02pm

I can't imagine Biden in a debate with Trump.  There is no way he remains the nominee.  Seems like Gavin is the next in line.  I'll never understand how "Mrs. Obama" is in any conversation as a potential nominee for the presidency. 

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9/20/2023 12:12pm

The current deal with Biden is he collects as much money as possible, campaign donations. Then he suspends his campaign due to health concerns and gets to pocket all the campaign donations. If he only suspends, he gets to keep the money, if he pulls out of the race he has to return all unspent money. So he'll never pull out officially. Then Michelle will swoop in and save the day pardoning all Bidens.

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9/20/2023 12:13pm
ToolMaker wrote:

Zero chance. Can you say Michelle?

*Michael

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9/20/2023 12:49pm

Please baby Jesus...send us a decent human being.  I don't care which camp you pull 'em from.  

I feel like the kids from Mary Poppins.Blush

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9/20/2023 2:02pm
ToolMaker wrote:

Zero chance. Can you say Michelle?

He is in with a chance

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9/20/2023 2:12pm

All I know is I'm glad I'm not a Democrat right now. (Or a republican, for that matter.) 

I'm actually quite worried to be an American, though. Unsure

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9/20/2023 2:33pm
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All I know is I'm glad I'm not a Democrat right now. (Or a republican, for that matter.)  I'm actually quite worried to be an American...

All I know is I'm glad I'm not a Democrat right now. (Or a republican, for that matter.) 

I'm actually quite worried to be an American, though. Unsure

No shit.  I spent a week with the wife and brother and sister-in-law high up in Colorado.  No cell, no TV...just natures magnificence.  

There ain't a fucking thing I can do to fix the situation but I can live my best life til they stop me.  

P.S.   There are some crazy mother fuckers that live where the air gets thin.  Not scary crazy...that kinda fun you don't mind gettin' in the middle of.  That left field that ain't even on the field.Wink

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9/20/2023 5:36pm
AZ35 wrote:
Everyone knows he is a walking puppet, and they can use the his age and cognitive decline to have him exit the race. The reason they...

Everyone knows he is a walking puppet, and they can use the his age and cognitive decline to have him exit the race.

The reason they don't want to do that is the tricky subject of how to skip Kamala and leave her behind. She has less of a chance than Joe even with all his age related issues.

Gavin is already primed and ready, they just can't make him the choice without figuring out a way of dealing with Kamala. 

I can tell you this much from a few local democrat politicians out in Chicago and someone I knew in the WH until a few months...

I can tell you this much from a few local democrat politicians out in Chicago and someone I knew in the WH until a few months back. No one in their loop thought Kamala was going to be this bad. They thought they could groom her and bring her up make her look like a strong candidate next to Biden. She wasn't just to get the black and female vote. But as we can painfully see she's just fuckin terrible.

She couldn't even make it through the primaries, don't know why they thought she would do good as a VP?

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9/20/2023 5:47pm

Here's my two cents for what it's worth; Joe bows out for health reasons and the dems throw Kamala in as the sacrificial lamb, handing the election to Trump. They then spend four years doing the racist/misogynist/end of our democracy bullshit while building up their 2028 candidate (Newsom of Big Mike is my guess) as the Great Savior of Our Land knowing Trump can't run again. And unless the GOP comes out equally hard with a great option, the dems will be pretty much guaranteed the White House. 

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Falcon wrote:
All I know is I'm glad I'm not a Democrat right now. (Or a republican, for that matter.)  I'm actually quite worried to be an American...

All I know is I'm glad I'm not a Democrat right now. (Or a republican, for that matter.) 

I'm actually quite worried to be an American, though. Unsure

Is it starting to dawn on people that the USA is in free fall,and they sold the parachute to fund 'no mean tweets'.

Remember 2018 . They were the good old days that are never coming back. 

 

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9/21/2023 5:01am
Sully wrote:
Here's my two cents for what it's worth; Joe bows out for health reasons and the dems throw Kamala in as the sacrificial lamb, handing the...

Here's my two cents for what it's worth; Joe bows out for health reasons and the dems throw Kamala in as the sacrificial lamb, handing the election to Trump. They then spend four years doing the racist/misogynist/end of our democracy bullshit while building up their 2028 candidate (Newsom of Big Mike is my guess) as the Great Savior of Our Land knowing Trump can't run again. And unless the GOP comes out equally hard with a great option, the dems will be pretty much guaranteed the White House. 

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9/21/2023 10:43am Edited Date/Time 9/21/2023 10:48am
AZ35 wrote:
Everyone knows he is a walking puppet, and they can use the his age and cognitive decline to have him exit the race. The reason they...

Everyone knows he is a walking puppet, and they can use the his age and cognitive decline to have him exit the race.

The reason they don't want to do that is the tricky subject of how to skip Kamala and leave her behind. She has less of a chance than Joe even with all his age related issues.

Gavin is already primed and ready, they just can't make him the choice without figuring out a way of dealing with Kamala. 

I can tell you this much from a few local democrat politicians out in Chicago and someone I knew in the WH until a few months...

I can tell you this much from a few local democrat politicians out in Chicago and someone I knew in the WH until a few months back. No one in their loop thought Kamala was going to be this bad. They thought they could groom her and bring her up make her look like a strong candidate next to Biden. She wasn't just to get the black and female vote. But as we can painfully see she's just fuckin terrible.

She couldn't even make it through the primaries, don't know why they thought she would do good as a VP?

They didn't  but they thought they could build her up over 4 years into the next in line. An with her ticking all the boxes they need plus being from California which is a huge electorate. They only need her to be a mouth piece like their doing with biden. At least that is what I've heard. But they have 3 terrible people waiting in line to stab her in the back and take over. 

 

One thats even better is the fact that msm, democrats and democrats campaign talking heads all pointed to the fact that her polling at 2-3% when she dropped out was due to racism and sexism. So racism and sexism was the reason she dropped out of the Democcrats presidential primary. You can't make that up the party thats yelling how conservatives are the racist sexist ones have a black female canidate run out of the election for those reasons. You can find this on Google still. 

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One thing I wanna say about the Biden Harris and Trump pence years is wait for books to come out in the future from former secret service members and I'm very intrested in seeing what some of them do post service. Some of the things going on would shock some people and some people would say yeah kinda what we thought.

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9/21/2023 6:11pm
I can tell you this much from a few local democrat politicians out in Chicago and someone I knew in the WH until a few months...

I can tell you this much from a few local democrat politicians out in Chicago and someone I knew in the WH until a few months back. No one in their loop thought Kamala was going to be this bad. They thought they could groom her and bring her up make her look like a strong candidate next to Biden. She wasn't just to get the black and female vote. But as we can painfully see she's just fuckin terrible.

She couldn't even make it through the primaries, don't know why they thought she would do good as a VP?

They didn't  but they thought they could build her up over 4 years into the next in line. An with her ticking all the boxes they...

They didn't  but they thought they could build her up over 4 years into the next in line. An with her ticking all the boxes they need plus being from California which is a huge electorate. They only need her to be a mouth piece like their doing with biden. At least that is what I've heard. But they have 3 terrible people waiting in line to stab her in the back and take over. 

 

One thats even better is the fact that msm, democrats and democrats campaign talking heads all pointed to the fact that her polling at 2-3% when she dropped out was due to racism and sexism. So racism and sexism was the reason she dropped out of the Democcrats presidential primary. You can't make that up the party thats yelling how conservatives are the racist sexist ones have a black female canidate run out of the election for those reasons. You can find this on Google still. 

Only good mouth piece she was, was for Willie Brown.......

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9/21/2023 7:17pm

How can Trump even run with all the legal issues he's in?  I don't follow all this stuff that close but even just dealing with the stress from all that while also trying to campaign would be insane.  I'm with the posts above, its fucking scary that these clowns are the best we can come up with.  Not to mention can we get someone under 100000 years old to run?

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She couldn't even make it through the primaries, don't know why they thought she would do good as a VP?

They didn't  but they thought they could build her up over 4 years into the next in line. An with her ticking all the boxes they...

They didn't  but they thought they could build her up over 4 years into the next in line. An with her ticking all the boxes they need plus being from California which is a huge electorate. They only need her to be a mouth piece like their doing with biden. At least that is what I've heard. But they have 3 terrible people waiting in line to stab her in the back and take over. 

 

One thats even better is the fact that msm, democrats and democrats campaign talking heads all pointed to the fact that her polling at 2-3% when she dropped out was due to racism and sexism. So racism and sexism was the reason she dropped out of the Democcrats presidential primary. You can't make that up the party thats yelling how conservatives are the racist sexist ones have a black female canidate run out of the election for those reasons. You can find this on Google still. 

Only good mouth piece she was, was for Willie Brown.......

Laughing

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We will stand united Per Constitution with all fore Fathers in FREEDOM's

Together as FREEDOM FIGHTERS's for all Democracy
No Matter what shore Freedom comes Upon.
Don't Give up the fight For Freedom...
Ounce Freedom is gone...It's gone forever.
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9/26/2023 7:55am Edited Date/Time 9/26/2023 7:57am
plowboy wrote:
Please baby Jesus...send us a decent human being.  I don't care which camp you pull 'em from.   I feel like the kids from Mary Poppins.

Please baby Jesus...send us a decent human being.  I don't care which camp you pull 'em from.  

I feel like the kids from Mary Poppins.Blush

He has... RFK, but the Dems will never allow it.  They wont even give him security services and are trying to make sure he cant secure delegates of certain states.

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9/26/2023 4:45pm

Saw a bumper sticker the other day, it read : "Any normal F'ing human being". Thats my vote.

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Nairb#70 wrote:

Saw a bumper sticker the other day, it read : "Any normal F'ing human being". Thats my vote.

Is there such a thing?

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Wake me up when someone nominates Brian Boitano...

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