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You don't have to spend 20k+. If the rider wants to have his family, friends, etc., at the event, he has the choice to pay or not to pay for their flights, accommodations, etc. It's not a requirement, and it's not the team's responsibility to pay to have those people around.
Pardon my French, but all these statements about "rider A isn't allowed to go", "rider B has to pay 20k out of his own pocket" or "rider C doesn't want to go if rider D doesn't go" are all chickensh*t excuses. USA has the most wins in history and as the reigning champion, they should always line up with a team every other nation would fear.
"Yeah, but it costs a lot of money to get Team USA to Europe". Another excuse. Firstly, maybe Team USA should consider not bringing 50+ people over. About half of them would do to create a competitive team, staff and coworkers. Secondly, many other nations with WAY less resources line up EVERY YEAR. Canada fields their strongest possible team every year. New-Zealand fields their strongest possible team every year. Mexico will field a team outside of the USA for the very first time this year. Hell, even Iceland (with a total population of 380,000 people - that's 0,43% of NYC's population) fields their strongest possible team every year, even when it's held outside of Europe. Vialle is coming over. So is Roczen.
That's called commitment. Something Team USA seems to lack more and more every year. For shame.
A small part of the official announcement from the Polish team (translated ofcourse):
If you strongly believe in something and want to move mountains with all your strength, surround yourself with great and willing people around you 🇵🇱❤️ We, as MX for life Stara Gwardia, encourage all big and small sponsors and all the people who love of this beautiful motocross sport, support our team, unity is strength!!🇵🇱❤️
Says about enough.
Im sure AMA would pay the cost to Star and Deegan to Go, like all European teams they pay the rider and his team to get bike, mechanic etc
I hope they have that friggin booter for nations, that is fun to watch. I did not realize though that Ernee was all grassed over in between races? No practices there? Wish I could go this year, even with a B team running the stars and stripes.
Oh, and 100% Deegan is missing a great opportunity, this will haunt him his entire career IMO if the narrative is true that he chose to skip (I will wait for Don M to chime in and say it was Star that won't let him go)
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This is the total budget for Team Canada to get to Ernee this year based on 15 personnel. 65K Canadian dollars doesn't seem that much to me.
That's around 48k USD, 16k USD per rider, but I'm pretty sure US Factory riders would demand 5 star hotels for their GF, parents, trainers, dog....a really good chef and good rental cars (They are not going to drive a Seat, a Dacia or a Skoda around Europe).
Pretty funny to see the most "patriotic" nation in Motocross strugle to send a team because the top riders or teams (Who are very patriotic, look at RedBud, or San Diego SX) do not show up at the race where they have to race for their country...
Seen Roczen waving a German flag lately?
I wish Roczen was going, but there’s no comparison in those situations.
Germany:
Roczen
Längenfelder
Tom Koch
Solid!
What a shit show. I’m not even American but I’d be booing any rider deciding to wave an American flag next year but also opted out.
lesser teams make the trip every year and everyone managed to get across the pond last year to race in your back garden. Yet you can’t field a solid team when you’ve got to do a bit of travel.
will say SMX probably isn’t helping as a lot of riders are going to end up with even less downtime if they do mxon however that’s another conversation that’s been going on for years, the American schedule needs shortening so these guys can have an actual off season.
Hell yeah!!!
Should have been Nagl but either way solid team
Wait. 7400 Canadien dollars for a chef making meals? What are they eating, entrecôte every day?
For 15 people for, let's say, a week or so. That's about 70 dollars for three meals per person per day. Seems legit.
I think Koch genuinely deserves his selection. He's a regular GP-rider and he scored several top 10-finishes on hard pack tracks during the season.
That is a good team!
Fair play Kenny 👏 shame the US flag wavers haven’t got that national pride
It's for a week.
Edit: It comes out to $23.12 CAD per meal per person. So a chef and all the groceries comes out cheaper than eating out for every meal.
Well, Kenny is going. Wish granted, sir.
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Maybe USA could learn a bit from seeing how Team Canada organise and fund their team.
Germany could podium with they have a good weekend, that is a very solid team!
Yeah it's a solid pick. But still Nagl is beating him in the only championship they race together. At the end of the day they're probably pretty even.
Maybe there are other reasons, because he's not even a reserve rider.
We would probably see Blake Baggett on the team before we ever see the AMA pay a single penny towards the USA MXdN effort.
We could easily send a team for less than half of what we currently spend but try telling one person let alone multiple personnel; “yea so I know we normally pay you X amount for stuff like this but you won’t be getting paid this weekend. Also, you will have a quarter of the amount of spare parts you would normally have and you won’t have anyone helping you like you normally would because we can’t afford to send everybody.” I don’t agree with this over budgeting nonsense but in the teams’ eyes, it seems they either have to have everything they would on a normal race weekend or they’re out. I understand doing anything and everything it takes to win but sacrifice doesn’t seem to be one of those things. Would money for the riders/teams give them more incentive to want to race MXdN? Sure, but if we can’t act like a team without the money involved, I think we’re missing the whole point of this race entirely.
Vohland? Yikes. Not even top ten a lot of motos.
I see kenny is in now.
To date, he's landed on the podium in one single moto.
This isn't about cutting the team's supplies or spare parts, or cutting in teammembers wages. They need that, everyone acknowledges that. It's about the concept of the "Team USA"-members. Last time in Ernée (2015) I was baffled by the amount of people sporting a "Team USA" jacket. Believe me, not all of those people were mechanics or other teammembers like suspension or tyre-engineers. Girlfriends, family members, family members of the crew, even old heroes like Chuck Sun were there.
They have all the right to be there, for all I care. But all of them need hotels, meals, cars, planes etc. All of those expenses need to be paid. And that is not the responsibility of the AMA or the teams.
Cut Team USA in quantity, not in quality.
Lol, he has refused it many times, not to go. I guess to you thats all forgotten.
When I heard Eli say he spent $10k for his entire family to go to Redbud for MxDN in 2018, my first thought was; “well you didn’t have to bring your whole family Eli” 😂
Jeez, good lineup of teams this year. Can easily see Germany as a podium contender.
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