Pulpmx and caller on netflix doco for SX / MX

Even if we have the best rip off drive to survive program imaginable that was show at prime time on TV for free we ain't going to get growth like drive to survive did to f1. Normal people don't relate to motorbikes the same as they do with cars. Also generally people already know about f1 and we have our sport where you usually got to explain the difference between supercross and motocross and why we have 5/7(now)  different champions every year. F1 looks rich and glamorous, dirt bike racing looks like hillbillies and rednecks. Have you ever met a motocross fan that wasn't involved in sport at some point? I've never known anyone to causally watch dirt bike racing like they do with MotoGP or f1 

Drive to Survive was lightning in a bottle. The first season didn't even have the top two teams nor drivers, at thus had to focus on the lower teams and a healthy dose of creative freedom. Formula 1 was already hugely popular prior to Drive to Survive which relied heavily upon a latent demand from already existent fans of the sport for behind the scenes stuff for its initial success. F1 used to have behind the scenes stuff up until the early 90s, but an extensive period of extreme secrecy meant the Drive To Survive was very much an example of right time, right place  This meant the 'creative licence' the producers implement was allowed to slide at the start, now however is attracts a lot of mockery. 

A lot of what made Drive to Survive successful already exists in motocross. There isn't a huge demand for behind the scenes stuff because there's already an over-supply of that. So what can a documentary style thing actually uncover? 

In addition the growth that is credited to Drive to Survive in in F1 in the USA has somewhat plateaued.  The market is over-supplied with sports documentaries as well. 

motocross used to be the leader in innovative media content, Drive To Survive is dated now. 

The reality of speed 

That series was awesome. Really miss it. I wish we had something like this w/ the current crop instead of all these one off, team/brand specific video series that are all 10 mins long. 

The nico izzi and davi millsaps episodes immediately come to mind. Great stuff. 

I think I remember an interview or pod where Wes or Troy said something like they had had conversations with Netflix before and during the F1 stuff came to be because they already had the Inside the Outdoors and Red Bull stuff going on... but said they weren't in to it or couldn't get the go ahead... something along those lines.

the best thing we have finally is riders knowing they can control their own media now and not have to wait for pulp or weege to interview them after the race.

they can leave after, and make their blog, or their own "what happened this weekend" video, where the media of each person is coming from the actual horses mouth...AND!  if they are good enough media "blogs", they make more money.  Win Win.

We have the team to film it between Vurb and Troy’s film crews and after hearing an interview with Stephen Astephen about this topic, it seems we have the contacts at Amazon or Netflix to make a pitch. It certainly could peak some interest of outside sponsors and the riders’ stories happening right now in the sport are super compelling. Between the Lawrence bros, Deegan, Eli returning from what should have been a career ending injury, Triumph/Beta/Ducati entering the sport as brand new teams, the Euros who are migrating here to race SX, all the privateers who are barely getting by just to qualify, the new playoff schedule etc. 

If only we can convince these teams to work together on this to help the sport as a whole.

Someone should go around in the pits and ask team personnel like Lars Lindstrom and Roger Decoster the question: “If Netflix was willing to do a documentary series on our sport, would you allow them access to your pit areas and video/mic up your team?”
 

Curious what the response would be because right now we’re assuming they would say no. 

Couple things

This show was on endemic channel, Red Bull Motorsports Youtube page. This show was made for the people who visit this channel and have an inherent knowledge of the sport. There were no new people happening on this content like they would on the front page of Netflix/Hulu. It was made for people who were already deep into the sport. 

A Moto Spy episode was done ever 21-24 days and released . DTS on Netflix was filmed all year long, edited by a team of people when they already knew the story lines of the season and released a week before the following season. 

Although a similar product how and who they were made for was very different. 

So you think you had the original idea of "Drive to Survive did well on Netflix, maybe they should do that for motocross!" 1 week ago? There's interviews on Pulp with the guys who made the RedBull Moto Spy series years ago which is practically the same thing and why it didn't work out as well at DTS.

I didn’t say I had an original idea.  I said I hadn’t heard it discussed before.  I also said it doesn’t matter.  What’s your deal?  Shit on a guy for making a suggestion that someone else did before.  Who cares?  Get a life.

There is a noticeable difference in opinion on this topic between American posters and those of us from other parts of the world.  I feel Americans don't realise that F1 has been the biggest motorsport in the rest of the world since at least the 1970s. Ever since I can remember F1 drivers have been household names - or close to it - in Europe, the UK, NZ and Australia. F1 was just never that well known in the US.  Americans therefore think that Drive to Survive has propelled F1 into being this massively popular sport - when really the only difference is that it's now known in the US.  The point is F1 has proven consistently to be a popular motorsport all over the world for decades, motocross and supercross are not big motorsports in any part of the world, in fact, they're biggest fanbase is in the US.  Drive to Survive has simply woken America up to F1, it hasn't pulled a niche underground sport into the mainstream.  F1 and motocross/supercross are like apples and oranges.  

I for one am happy with where our sport is, I don't want every Joe Blow off the street suddenly being into motocross and supercross. I like the way it's something that is niche and special.  It's the best sport in the world and doesn't need mass Netflix appeal to prove it.