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All you softies saying that Dngr needs to “be taught a lesson”, did it ever cross your mind that with the speed and aggression he’s already...

All you softies saying that Dngr needs to “be taught a lesson”, did it ever cross your mind that with the speed and aggression he’s already showed, that maybe as the season goes on he will be the one doing the “teaching” on the track? Cuz he looks likes he’s only getting better to me

TbonesPop wrote:
There's a massive amount of irony in your post in this thread, namely the kid riding a wide bike like total spode trying to block the...

There's a massive amount of irony in your post in this thread, namely the kid riding a wide bike like total spode trying to block the by far faster rider 3 minutes into the moto, and according to you he's only getting better.  what he should have done is realized he didn't have the speed, or the lines, or both, and gave way to the faster rider then tucked in and learned from him.  Learn where Hunter was faster, learn the better lines, just learn in general.  That would have been the mature thing to do and likely would have benefited him more in the long run.  Who knows, maybe he tucks in and learns better lines and stays with Hunter and moves forward.  But instead the spode road graded with hopes he could block Hunter for 27 more minutes plus 2 laps and didn't learn a damn thing........You might want to get your eyes checked if you think that is an example of "only getting better".

Re check the race, it was 15 to 17 minutes into the moto. Let us get the facts straight.

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He is only getting better, look at the results, he’s doing a lot more than either Lawrence brother did in their rookie campaigns. I disagree with...

He is only getting better, look at the results, he’s doing a lot more than either Lawrence brother did in their rookie campaigns. I disagree with your point entirely, you very rarely see the whole “let him by and follow his lines” strategy work. I think he should’ve executed the swerve or break check better maybe it would’ve left hunter on the ground, therefore giving DNGR a better chance of making up points. This isn’t fucking soccer or ballet, anything outside of cutting the track and aiming for someone’s leg with your wheel (ex. Barcia on Ferrandis at Budds) is fair game. The kid hasn’t done anything that’s crossed the line yet I only expect more of this kinda thing and I am here for it!

Mikeh0870 wrote:
I wouldn't go so far as saying Deegan is doing better than Jett in his first full rookie year, Jett actually went 1-2 at Pala in...

I wouldn't go so far as saying Deegan is doing better than Jett in his first full rookie year, Jett actually went 1-2 at Pala in his first race as a fulltime professional and Jett was younger then than what Deegan is this year as well... again Deegan is bloody talented and will have an amazing career but for me it's the looking behind and worrying who's behind you rather than racing forward...race hard and aggressive all you like but stop with the Mickey mouse crap 5 mins into a moto

mx313 wrote:
Jett won pala in his last race of his rookie season. But I don't see jett as a good comparison to deegan. Jetts road to pros...

Jett won pala in his last race of his rookie season.

But I don't see jett as a good comparison to deegan. Jetts road to pros and 1st season was much different.

Because jett has succeeded in everything ppl expect. For some reason they expect deegan to do it. But how many times in the last 20 years has the up and coming rookie won everything they should? Not often.

I personally see a lot more austin forkner in deegan. Forkners rookie mx season he got 3 overall podiums and a win.

I only brought up Jett because Creatute was saying Deegan was having a far better rookie season than either of the Lawrence's...but you can't really compare as we're only 3 races into this season so let's hold off on any comparisons.

As every Jett fan was told let's wait and see what he can do before comparing him to anyone.. so let's do  the same with Deegan 🤷‍♂️

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Peddy wrote:
I dont know if that'll teach him a lesson... Barcia doesn't cross jump people, at least on purpose if my memory serves me right, but whenever...

I dont know if that'll teach him a lesson... Barcia doesn't cross jump people, at least on purpose if my memory serves me right, but whenever people try to "teach him a lesson" they get that lesson thrown back in their face. But maybe Barcia is special in that regard where he doesn't mind and even seems to want to ride rough and have people ride rough with him.

Allegedly Deegan has been doing this his whole career. I would put a lot of blame on his dad for not correcting it when he was a kid. 

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Was this on purpose? This was 2014... almost a decade has passed. Kinda proves my point, no? Having to go a decade back to find an example.

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Everyone saying that another ride will teach Deegan a lesson; does this really ever happen?
 

It seems they just continue riding the way they do. Barcia might have finally grown out of that trait this season but it wasn’t because someone taught him a lesson. Did Weston Peick teach Vince Friese a lesson and all of a sudden he stopped?

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6/19/2023 2:57pm

I did not see Deegan do anything like last week at Thunder Valley.  Someone has talked to him or he got the message.  

This kid is the real deal and apparently CAN listen to constructive criticism.  

I do know he can ride like the wind.

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6/19/2023 3:24pm

It's interesting Bubba was commenting how Shimoda is handicapped because he hasn't shown the potential to take someone out, therefore his competition races him differently. It is probably good for Deegan to assert himself at this stage in career to give his competition a little bit of worry.

As for the racing at Thunder Valley, I saw Deegan cross lines and brake check, but it was more harmful to Deegan than Hunter. Hunter was expecting it (as he said on the podium) and raced him accordingly. 

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6/19/2023 6:19pm Edited Date/Time 6/19/2023 6:19pm
IWreckALot wrote:
I find the idiots bringing up random past occurrences from other riders interesting. Cross jumping is absolutely not acceptable. Brake checking is IMO fair game, but...

I find the idiots bringing up random past occurrences from other riders interesting. Cross jumping is absolutely not acceptable. Brake checking is IMO fair game, but not exactly a smart play with that much time left in the motos. I liked the brake check Hymas put on Ferrandis (or was it AP). 

I'm not ready to crucify Deegan for a one time incident. If it becomes a habit, it'll be time for some of these guys to teach a lesson. Most of the issues brought up previously by other riders were one off events. You make a wrong decision in the heat of the moment, learn from it, move on. We'll see if Deegan learns. My guess is he doesn't. But I'll watch and see.

When exactly did the 250 rookie brake check one of two factory 450 guys?

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