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So what you're saying is he used a 1985 CR250 to showcase his talent and get himself noticed, and it almost immediately paid off with industry support from Grondahl and Watts? 'Merica?
yeah if you use those things on each side of your nose you would see i said "Many decide to make it more expensive than this, but saying it HAS to be is just ridiculous lol"
the argument is: you must have an rv and 2-3 bikes. NOT what do most people do.
Comprehension is tough for ya
Funny trend I have noticed over the years. The smaller the rider the bigger the rig. The bigger the rider the smaller the rig. Kids on 50's rolling in with massive rigs, while the 18-20 year old rolls in their sprinter van. Not 100% of the time, but a high percentage the last several years.
Interesting you mention Robin making it on an old 80’s CR250.
How about the other time when Ryan Hughes tried to do it on a single 1986 CR250. I seem to recall the bike blew up in practice and lucky he’s a star so guys quickly rushed and scrounged up a 2nd bike and did a rush job piecing a running bike together. Let’s consider all sides fairly.
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They should have another Lorretta Lynn's for our sport that isn't for rich people. The costs have become unreasonable to the average Joe. Kind of like Ponca City used to be! It would be cool to see not just the fastest rich kids but the actual fastest kids racing. I think LL is out of reach for many of us.
NOT MEANT TO TAKE CREDIT away from those that make it!
100k motorhome is peasant level nowadays. Must be 200k or more to count.
So you really think there is just a bunch of kids out there faster than the kids at Loretta's they just can't afford to go?
Makes even more sense. Dont complain about $
The fastest kids aren't paying for anything
The only reason Loretta's is out of reach for any body is because they are not fast enough! That's the whole point of qualifying for an amateur national!
Neither are the slow kids.
The parents are tho.
Although I disagree with the idea of having a participation LL in his defense I know for a fact there were instances of this when I was racing. Sometimes you would see kids who you knew were plenty fast enough to qualify but never saw their names on result sheets on Mx Sports AQ Results.
There was a span of about three years of a kid in 85 9-11 to 12-13 class who would get hurt like clockwork. Get hurt really bad around the time for areas to kick off; heal up and get back on the bike just before LL and beat kids who were podium and race win speed at the ranch when they returned home the back half of the year until about 3 weeks before Mini O’s and then boom another injury. My pops and I were bummed when we noticed the family wasn’t at the track AT ALL after about the third year of it happening. I’m sure there and plenty other instances where kids can’t afford and/or injury prone for whatever reason that missed their window for success at LL.
Loretta’s isn’t for the average Joe.
We have been to Ponca several times, it is expensive as well.
Ummmm how is that relevant to what I said?
The kid in your example got hurt, no amount of money in the world will fix that.
Hell yeah i do. The conditions to have a decent shot at succedding have to be correct. I would think that the cost of motocross would weed out many kids that would be good at it. The success stories have similar conditions surrounding the rider.
Name 5 then and show some examples of results that lead you to believe they are faster than kids at the Ranch.
And please don't show examples of them beating some 30th place LL dudes, legit results please.
think of it philosophically.....
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I'm not even sure what that means....
Is this your way of dodging the question and trying to make me look dumb at the same time?
You seem pretty convinced that you are right and there are tons of kids out there faster than the kids at the ranch who can't go....seems like it'd be pretty easy for you to come up with some examples....right?
Everyone except you understood the point
There's great athletes out there that would never get the chance to throw their leg over a bike based on their economic position. Riding dirt bikes is an expensive sport. The first thing that thins out the heard is cost. Then....it goes from there.
Where you gonna move the goal post to next? I thought we were talking about Loretta's being too expensive but now that you can't come up with any examples to prove your point we are just gonna bitch about the sport in general being expensive I see....
Yeah....the argument begins with our sport being too expensive for many people. Then we wind up at LL being an over-the-top expensive event in an expensive sport. There will be fast riders out there that don't go because they don't have that kind of money. Very general statement that i think is true but no....i don't have specific supporting evidence for you.
I think LL is a very cool event. I follow my buddies that make it and cheer them along from my computer. I follow the week of racing and it is fun to watch. I love anything moto. I just think the LL event is out of my league in regards to expenses.
expensive and unfair are different
Meanwhile, the #820 is driving across the country in a old Dodge Dakota pick up with bikes in the back qualifying at the nationals on a two stroke. 👍
Can you name an amateur sport where advancing from local league play to area playoffs to regional playoffs to the national finals is not expensive? My youngest is playing competitive soccer and did just that route last year and you can cross that sport off the "inexpensive" list.
cross country running. You need shoes.....
I know the parents of a factory kid who is now pro. While they definitely received a lot of support as an amateur, everything wasn't free. No one was paying for their training fees, travel costs, race gas, food, and everything else. They were getting free bikes and gear. The biggest part of that is they were able to sell the bikes at the end of the year when new ones arrived. Once they got the pro contract, they got some travel money and training was covered, but now they don't have bikes to sell at the end of the year to help make up that difference. He didn't go into specifics and I didn't ask as it's not my business, but I think the salary part is pretty small too.
Those few that have the support are still paying a ton of money, maybe even more because they have to do everything to ensure they stay at the top and don't lose that support. I saw it and heard it from them, it was extremely stressful.
To earn a spot on the 7th grade CC team, you are correct.
I'm talking about people that aspire to compete for a national championship.
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