My tire spoon bent like a noodle!

secretsize
Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 7:23pm
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I bought me a bad ass Motion Pro spoon for fifteen bucks. I dug into the bead only to bend the damn spoon end 90 degrees. What do they use...pot metal? What a POS spoon. Plus I scrapped my knuckle on the sprocket. Then I called the shop and they want 15 dollars to change it! BS! I had a beer and watched TWMX tire changing video and realize I forgot to break the bead on BOTH sides. Beer and Youtube...mans best friend.



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wownd out 10/31/2009 3:19pm
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Do you have the rim locks loose, and the bead broke, do you have the wheel elevated so the tire isn't touching the table, and soap and water? i use little 10 inch tire irons no problem just get that wheel off the ground or atleast the part your working on. Good luck.
secretsize 10/31/2009 3:40pm
10/31/2009 3:40pm
wownd out wrote:
Do you have the rim locks loose, and the bead broke, do you have the wheel elevated so the tire isn't touching the table, and soap...
Do you have the rim locks loose, and the bead broke, do you have the wheel elevated so the tire isn't touching the table, and soap and water? i use little 10 inch tire irons no problem just get that wheel off the ground or atleast the part your working on. Good luck.
thanks..i'm off to the garage for battle number two

I'm planning on mounting Maxxis tires and I heard the bead is a real bitch to get on!


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nytsmaC 10/31/2009 3:44pm
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Put the tire out in the sun for a few hrs before mounting and it'll soften right up.
TheWeapon 10/31/2009 3:46pm
10/31/2009 3:46pm
You need Metzeler tyre levers. Even a muppet can do a 10 min tyre change with them!

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moto329 10/31/2009 4:04pm
10/31/2009 4:04pm
secretsize wrote:
thanks..i'm off to the garage for battle number two I'm planning on mounting Maxxis tires and I heard the bead is a real bitch to get...
thanks..i'm off to the garage for battle number two

I'm planning on mounting Maxxis tires and I heard the bead is a real bitch to get on!


Maxxis is the worst. If it's a Maxxis I won't touch it.
Poker_Player 10/31/2009 4:20pm
10/31/2009 4:20pm Edited Date/Time 10/31/2009 4:20pm
All great ideas. Set the tire in the sun, use a bucket on something to get the tire waist high or a tire changing stand. Also make sure sprocket side is down so you don't bust your knuckles on it again. Soap and water works but I use simple green and water 50/50 solution Yes Maxxis are a bitch but not that bad. Good Luck.
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Lightning78 10/31/2009 4:24pm
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yes....the sprocket side down is a good rule of thumb......NOOB! Tongue
Poker_Player 10/31/2009 4:25pm
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Lightning78 wrote:
yes....the sprocket side down is a good rule of thumb......NOOB! Tongue
I was going easy on him. Grinning We all have done it though.
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calimxer91 10/31/2009 4:26pm
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Got my tricks but I aint telling.Wont touch a Maxxis either.
Poker_Player 10/31/2009 4:39pm
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calimxer91 wrote:
Got my tricks but I aint telling.Wont touch a Maxxis either.
You saving them for the race?Woohoo
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ocscottie 10/31/2009 4:44pm
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Its probably Big task to attack that job and a real Trick to not get your Balls caught in the bead while they are hanging Out. So be careful man!
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Justin314 10/31/2009 6:03pm
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secretsize wrote:
thanks..i'm off to the garage for battle number two I'm planning on mounting Maxxis tires and I heard the bead is a real bitch to get...
thanks..i'm off to the garage for battle number two

I'm planning on mounting Maxxis tires and I heard the bead is a real bitch to get on!


moto329 wrote:
Maxxis is the worst. If it's a Maxxis I won't touch it.
Same here. The first (and last) time I installed a Maxxis, I ended up snapping one of my tire irons in half.
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Remlap 10/31/2009 7:15pm
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ocscottie wrote:
Its probably [i]Big[/i] task to [i]attack[/i] that job and a real [i]Trick[/i] to not get your [i]Balls[/i] caught in the bead while they are hanging [i]Out[/i]...
Its probably Big task to attack that job and a real Trick to not get your Balls caught in the bead while they are hanging Out. So be careful man!
LOL That clears things up.
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Sawblade 10/31/2009 7:45pm
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15 bucks to put on a new tire's not a bad deal. Then again, I hate to put new tires so its money will spent.
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Wandell 10/31/2009 8:33pm
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I've heard the smaller the tire, the worse it is. My pitbike and my son's KLX both have 14 and 12 inch wheels. A buddy told me he gave up while trying to change a 10 inch CRF50 tire.
FlickitFlat 11/1/2009 12:25am
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Last time I paid to have a tire changed they bent the shit out of my disc. Then they claim no way. Bullshit, it wasn't bent when I brought it to them. I put it on my swing arm and my caliper moved probably a quarter inch every rotation. It was bent so bad I couldn't ride with it. They said its a dirt bike, who knows when it was bent. bullshit, I don't care if it was a freakin moped, it wasn't bent when I brought it there. $15 install cost me over $200.00 when said and done and guess who I didn't buy the new caliper from.
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Donk122 11/1/2009 12:51am
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Boys, WINDEX. Best lube for changin tires.
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johansen 11/1/2009 4:12am
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secretsize wrote:
thanks..i'm off to the garage for battle number two I'm planning on mounting Maxxis tires and I heard the bead is a real bitch to get...
thanks..i'm off to the garage for battle number two

I'm planning on mounting Maxxis tires and I heard the bead is a real bitch to get on!


moto329 wrote:
Maxxis is the worst. If it's a Maxxis I won't touch it.
Justin314 wrote:
Same here. The first (and last) time I installed a Maxxis, I ended up snapping one of my tire irons in half.
Maxxis is nothing compared to the winter-tires I have Smile

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Skywagon 11/1/2009 5:12am
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My Motion Pro spoons work great - have used them with dozens of tire changes. It would take quite a bit of excess force to bend one - I certainly would be concerned with that amount of force when levering against my aluminum rim.
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Cygnus 11/1/2009 5:42am
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I have had the same made in Italy, Motorace tire irons for 25 years. They still work great. I had to change a tire last night. Did the whole thing off and back on the bike in less than 10 minutes.
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petegrath 11/1/2009 5:50am
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I use the Motion Pro ones too, haven't had a problem and have changed probably 20 tires with them, maybe more. As far as Maxxis, I'm running an SI on back right now. So far so good. Didn't have an issue mounting either.

Here's the trick... Use soap and water (heavy on soap) to make the bead slippery. Helps for getting it on, and also helps set the bead when you air it up the first time.

I set the rim on an open bucket, so neither the rotor or the sprocket gets damaged.

Also, and I've seen a whole bunch of people struggle when not mounting the tire this way: Do not work against the rim lock! Start the mounting process at the rim lock. I seat about 3" on either side. From there, pick a side and work around the tire. The end goal is to have the last 1/4 of the job 90 degrees or so from the rim lock. if the rim lock's at 6 o'clock, your last bit to mount should be from 3 o'clock to 6 (saving the three inches or so I'll go past the rim lock with the initial mount).

If you do this, your tire will pop right on and you won't bend your tire irons. Putting the tire in the sun also helps alot, although I've done many changes in the winter too. The absolute worst thing you can do when mounting is have the last bit to pop on at 180 degrees from the rim lock. I watched a guy actually break the steel wire in his bead on a brand new MH3 by prying against the rim lock.

Good luck!

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Void Main 11/1/2009 6:00am
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So you didn't break the bead all the way around and drop one side into the groove in the rim and you blame the spoon for bending? I'm surprised you didn't bend the shit out of your rim. Sounds like Motion Pro saved you a lot of money to me.
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petegrath 11/1/2009 6:04am
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Heh heh heh...

At least he gave his props to beer and youtube!
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SteveS 11/1/2009 6:44am
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Just remember. There is no spoon.

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WSR 11/1/2009 7:14am
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While Motion Pro makes many great specialty tools, their tire tools leave something to be desired. They will bend, and they're too pointed on the end and pinch tubes easier than rounded ones. Just my personal experience.
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Skywagon 11/1/2009 10:00am
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WSR wrote:
While Motion Pro makes many great specialty tools, their tire tools leave something to be desired. They will bend, and they're too pointed on the end...
While Motion Pro makes many great specialty tools, their tire tools leave something to be desired. They will bend, and they're too pointed on the end and pinch tubes easier than rounded ones. Just my personal experience.
I think that you are talking about the standard levers. The Motion Pro spoons are some of the best.

http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/articles/view/486/motion_pro_tire_s…
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Bigfoot 11/1/2009 10:03am
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Once a knuckle has been damaged it's best to scrap it. There are some that will claim that a damaged knuckle can be overhauled or rebuilt, but hauling it off to the appendage salvage yard is usually the best bet.
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JG2 11/1/2009 11:23am
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If you live in a shitty cold climate like Canada where there is sun only 1/2 hour per day you can throw the new tire on the floor of your truck by the heater vent and run the heater WFO for an hour or so. Environmentally friendly...not so much, but it works.
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Skywagon 11/1/2009 12:49pm
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JG2 wrote:
If you live in a shitty cold climate like Canada where there is sun only 1/2 hour per day you can throw the new tire on...
If you live in a shitty cold climate like Canada where there is sun only 1/2 hour per day you can throw the new tire on the floor of your truck by the heater vent and run the heater WFO for an hour or so. Environmentally friendly...not so much, but it works.
Or throw it in in empty garbage can with a hair drying running. Works great.
CorndogRacing 11/1/2009 1:31pm
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secretsize wrote:
thanks..i'm off to the garage for battle number two I'm planning on mounting Maxxis tires and I heard the bead is a real bitch to get...
thanks..i'm off to the garage for battle number two

I'm planning on mounting Maxxis tires and I heard the bead is a real bitch to get on!


haha i have done dunlops and bridgestones with out mush hassle, but i recently bought a beater bike with a maxxis on the rear, that thing was a mofo to take off, have fun man

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