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Exactly why I questioned it. Didn’t make sense to me. Thanks!
I'm definitely curious to see if anyone does it different.
Maybe that's why my bikes always corner weird
Never struggled so much setting sag in a bike I use the slacker tool and try to do the Ping method and I’m all over. I figure get it close and adjust but I’d love to hear the definitive way thanks.
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Looks like back of swingarm like FC suggested according to Honda guy on Pings video.
I’m in Oxford. Milford….not as much now….local spots. Old sandpits Southwick local tracks. Been mtn biking a bit more but I’d like to do some of the Stimilon vet days this year😁
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Rick B. Yes he would remember Jeff Saranich connection and of course Libby’s etc. he might have my number- Mike Lodice 912
looks like the tape measure is positioned forward a bit instead of straight up and down.
To me both spots would produce almost the same number since they are so close together. Every video I have seen including ones with a Honda in it, measure from the axle.
Not sure why a Honda would be different than any other brand.
Ahh small world. I ride down at milford on Tuesday nights. We rode with Jeff a few years back at NHMX. He helped us with an extra chain guide bolt.
I will look for a 441 next time….👍🏻
Perfect thank you! Not sure why they told me 75mm on the phone.
What is different about the honda that makes measuring the sag different? They mention the fender moves when taking the bike off the stand but why is the tool placement different near the rear wheel?
So. Ow we have to figure out where exactly on the seat to sit ….that’s where I feel you struggle the most. I move my junk a half inch and it’s off again.
Honestly not sure, I’ll ask next time I’m chatting with the guys there. This method measures about 5mm more than the basic method. So, if you have a sag of 105 using the traditional method, I get about 110 using this one.
The ping video mentioned sitting further back between the H and O on the seat, I’ll measure when I get my stuff back and put her back together, I didn’t look in here first and did the manual way of removing the rear shock, holy over complicated.
Loosen the sub frame and remove that piece under the air box (two Allen bolts), slides right out.
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Lol lesson learned I took subframe and silencer off.
By the way, with the FC link, I’m at 1mm fork height and 108 sag. I was at 2.5mm fork and 110 sag with the stock linkage. I mostly ride rough sand tracks, and would probably drop the forks a bit for a more hard pack track.
Weird they would suggest that far back. I sit way more forward when in the seated position.
My mind is still blown about all this sag setting from FC lol.
I wouldn't over think it. You can ask 10 suspension guy and get 17 different answers.
As someone who uses a tape measure for a living and took geometry class twice. I can't understand why they trip so much. If you sit in the same spot the shock should sag the same amount each time. Measure from the same spot and subtract the difference.
If you really want to get the proper setting, start with something neutral around 105, then just go about half a turn on the shock at a time (in either direction) and not worry about the measurement until you find the right setting. Once you have something you like, measure it however you feel gives you the most reproducible measurement, and write that measurement and process down.
no. its from where i put it when i got my suspension back from MVR. i will get a picture to show where they are now.
I'm sitting at 105 now. I'm replacing the chain this weekend and I'm going to try and get the wheel further back in the swing arm so I will have to re set the sag.
I spoke to Keefer on the different ways people measure the sag on the Honda, because when I got my stuff back from Racetech they had a different way of measuring it as well. He sated to go from the swingarm to the rear fender(as that's what they do in production testing). However, I reached out to Racetech explaining the difference and they said to stick to there method. so who knows.
Can anyone give me all of the torque specs related to the forks and rear shock/linkage? Just bought a used bike and don’t have a manual at the moment.
Thanks!
Has anyone compared the Yosh vs PC pipes on this this bike? Trying to decide which one to go with.
I thought the sag was meant to be measured between two points that are the same distance from the swingarm pivot bolt.
The distance to the rear axel is basically fixed so the other point needs to be that same distance from the swingarm pivot bolt. Measure from the pivot bolt to the axel centre and then swing an arc from the pivot bolt up at that same length and see where it ends up on the rear guard and that’s where you measure sag to.
I think the most common exhausts are the Yosh and Akrapovic. Chad at XPR told me the Akrapovic is the best one for it. Also probably depends what you are looking for, power and chassis wise.
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