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And now KGB tied in a russian oppossition journalist just because they follow each other on twitter. Everyone who opposses Kremlin will be terrorist from now on.

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My big thing is, are we just giving all this stuff to the Ukraine? And then after the war we will be paying to rebuild Ukraine as well no doubt? If Putin gets overthrown is the mess that Russia is the USA's problem as well? At this point in our country we are transferring wealth across generations, my grandkids are going to get the bills for what this country is spending now. Someone convince me Ukraine is the USA's problem and not just a Europe thing. I understand how the world has changed post WW2 and the nuclear age and all, but good God, we are talking billions and billions of dollars. For ultimately what? Can't Europe aid Ukraine by herself?

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4/5/2023 4:57am Edited Date/Time 4/5/2023 5:00am
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My big thing is, are we just giving all this stuff to the Ukraine? And then after the war we will be paying to rebuild Ukraine...

My big thing is, are we just giving all this stuff to the Ukraine? And then after the war we will be paying to rebuild Ukraine as well no doubt? If Putin gets overthrown is the mess that Russia is the USA's problem as well? At this point in our country we are transferring wealth across generations, my grandkids are going to get the bills for what this country is spending now. Someone convince me Ukraine is the USA's problem and not just a Europe thing. I understand how the world has changed post WW2 and the nuclear age and all, but good God, we are talking billions and billions of dollars. For ultimately what? Can't Europe aid Ukraine by herself?

The US won’t allow Europe to deal with it on its own. Too many US interests at stake. USA is the world boss. The US laid the foundation in Ukraine leading up to the current situation. 

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Didn't we build tremendous wealth in this country selling arms and financing the world wars? Why are we just giving things away now?

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Spoonguy wrote:

Didn't we build tremendous wealth in this country selling arms and financing the world wars? Why are we just giving things away now?

Don`t worry, nothing has changed.

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This is beyond heartbreaking and enraging.

 

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This is beyond heartbreaking and enraging.

 

Do we know it’s true? 

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No offense intended. I misunderstood your statement to mean we are not spending a lot on Ukraine's concerns. My apologies.

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Anyone remember back when Kongol's 1st thread to share real information about this invasion (which eventually got stupid political posts), was abandoned in favor of this one?  Which is now being overrun again by the same stupid political crap.  Some of the zealots around here just can't help themselves from spouting off their views, hoping to get supported by fellow zealots.

Can't we just have one decent thread in Non-Moto? (I know, silly question)

There's enough crazy in the remaining posts to make you guys happy.

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Culmination of this war is fast aproaching. From what I understand no moves before after orthodox Easter, which means a week. Nothing will be easy, but we will see which way world heads this year. It`s still a little wet in east of Ukraine.

China refused to help Russia. India is getting tough on Russia. 

 

 

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Anyone remember back when Kongol's 1st thread to share real information about this invasion (which eventually got stupid political posts), was abandoned in favor of this...

Anyone remember back when Kongol's 1st thread to share real information about this invasion (which eventually got stupid political posts), was abandoned in favor of this one?  Which is now being overrun again by the same stupid political crap.  Some of the zealots around here just can't help themselves from spouting off their views, hoping to get supported by fellow zealots.

Can't we just have one decent thread in Non-Moto? (I know, silly question)

There's enough crazy in the remaining posts to make you guys happy.

Fuck those trators. Don`t pay attention. Don`t give them spotlight they crave.

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Anyone remember back when Kongol's 1st thread to share real information about this invasion (which eventually got stupid political posts), was abandoned in favor of this...

Anyone remember back when Kongol's 1st thread to share real information about this invasion (which eventually got stupid political posts), was abandoned in favor of this one?  Which is now being overrun again by the same stupid political crap.  Some of the zealots around here just can't help themselves from spouting off their views, hoping to get supported by fellow zealots.

Can't we just have one decent thread in Non-Moto? (I know, silly question)

There's enough crazy in the remaining posts to make you guys happy.

kongols wrote:

Fuck those trators. Don`t pay attention. Don`t give them spotlight they crave.

What “traitors” Kongols? Are you trying to say anyone who questions or does not support the war is what you consider a traitor? 

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Anyone remember back when Kongol's 1st thread to share real information about this invasion (which eventually got stupid political posts), was abandoned in favor of this...

Anyone remember back when Kongol's 1st thread to share real information about this invasion (which eventually got stupid political posts), was abandoned in favor of this one?  Which is now being overrun again by the same stupid political crap.  Some of the zealots around here just can't help themselves from spouting off their views, hoping to get supported by fellow zealots.

Can't we just have one decent thread in Non-Moto? (I know, silly question)

There's enough crazy in the remaining posts to make you guys happy.

kongols wrote:

Fuck those trators. Don`t pay attention. Don`t give them spotlight they crave.

I have a neighbourhood full of new Ukrainian immigrants. All military age men. Not in their own country defending it from Russia. 
Makes me wonder what your definition of traitor is. 

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Anyone remember back when Kongol's 1st thread to share real information about this invasion (which eventually got stupid political posts), was abandoned in favor of this...

Anyone remember back when Kongol's 1st thread to share real information about this invasion (which eventually got stupid political posts), was abandoned in favor of this one?  Which is now being overrun again by the same stupid political crap.  Some of the zealots around here just can't help themselves from spouting off their views, hoping to get supported by fellow zealots.

Can't we just have one decent thread in Non-Moto? (I know, silly question)

There's enough crazy in the remaining posts to make you guys happy.

kongols wrote:

Fuck those trators. Don`t pay attention. Don`t give them spotlight they crave.

swordfish wrote:
I have a neighbourhood full of new Ukrainian immigrants. All military age men. Not in their own country defending it from Russia.  Makes me wonder what...

I have a neighbourhood full of new Ukrainian immigrants. All military age men. Not in their own country defending it from Russia. 
Makes me wonder what your definition of traitor is. 

I see Putin's spokesperson unfortunately woke up.

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kongols wrote:

Fuck those trators. Don`t pay attention. Don`t give them spotlight they crave.

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I have a neighbourhood full of new Ukrainian immigrants. All military age men. Not in their own country defending it from Russia.  Makes me wonder what...

I have a neighbourhood full of new Ukrainian immigrants. All military age men. Not in their own country defending it from Russia. 
Makes me wonder what your definition of traitor is. 

I see Putin's spokesperson unfortunately woke up.

I see the biggest clown in Non Moto decided to try this thread after he was run out of all the others. You’ll get a little more support here no doubt. 

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Anyone remember back when Kongol's 1st thread to share real information about this invasion (which eventually got stupid political posts), was abandoned in favor of this...

Anyone remember back when Kongol's 1st thread to share real information about this invasion (which eventually got stupid political posts), was abandoned in favor of this one?  Which is now being overrun again by the same stupid political crap.  Some of the zealots around here just can't help themselves from spouting off their views, hoping to get supported by fellow zealots.

Can't we just have one decent thread in Non-Moto? (I know, silly question)

There's enough crazy in the remaining posts to make you guys happy.

kongols wrote:

Fuck those trators. Don`t pay attention. Don`t give them spotlight they crave.

swordfish wrote:

What “traitors” Kongols? Are you trying to say anyone who questions or does not support the war is what you consider a traitor? 

I don't think anyone is supporting the war, exactly. Russia is plainly the aggressor in all this - they invaded with no justification for the havoc they have wrought. So to support the war would be supporting Russia. Supporting the self defense efforts of the invaded is another thing. Doesn't matter if fault of some kind can be found with some of either side here - not acknowledging the plain reality that Russia blew this up by invading is in a way supporting their actions.

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I have a neighbourhood full of new Ukrainian immigrants. All military age men. Not in their own country defending it from Russia.  Makes me wonder what...

I have a neighbourhood full of new Ukrainian immigrants. All military age men. Not in their own country defending it from Russia. 
Makes me wonder what your definition of traitor is. 

I see Putin's spokesperson unfortunately woke up.

swordfish wrote:
I see the biggest clown in Non Moto decided to try this thread after he was run out of all the others. You’ll get a little...

I see the biggest clown in Non Moto decided to try this thread after he was run out of all the others. You’ll get a little more support here no doubt. 

Someone needs a hug.

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kongols wrote:

Fuck those trators. Don`t pay attention. Don`t give them spotlight they crave.

swordfish wrote:

What “traitors” Kongols? Are you trying to say anyone who questions or does not support the war is what you consider a traitor? 

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I don't think anyone is supporting the war, exactly. Russia is plainly the aggressor in all this - they invaded with no justification for the havoc...

I don't think anyone is supporting the war, exactly. Russia is plainly the aggressor in all this - they invaded with no justification for the havoc they have wrought. So to support the war would be supporting Russia. Supporting the self defense efforts of the invaded is another thing. Doesn't matter if fault of some kind can be found with some of either side here - not acknowledging the plain reality that Russia blew this up by invading is in a way supporting their actions.

I don’t recall anyone saying Ukraine should not defend themselves or support Russia. I see a lot of folks discussing what led up to this, possible provocations whether you agree with them or not and just general posts on the situation. 
What I’m asking is if Kongols considers someone a traitor if they don’t support his openly biased narrative. If disagreement or dissent with his opinion and beliefs constitutes a traitor. I mean, at the end of the day I don’t really give a shit what anyone thinks of my opinion, especially Kongols.  Just reinforces the thread starters general attitude since the first post. He is partisan(no issue with that considering his location and citizenship) and pretty openly hostile to opposing thoughts, information or ideas. 
Now he’s calling members “traitors” for not following his narrow focus which is pretty laughable. I hate to break it to you but if that is his measure of a traitor, the world is full of them. 

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kongols wrote:
Culmination of this war is fast aproaching. From what I understand no moves before after orthodox Easter, which means a week. Nothing will be easy, but...

Culmination of this war is fast aproaching. From what I understand no moves before after orthodox Easter, which means a week. Nothing will be easy, but we will see which way world heads this year. It`s still a little wet in east of Ukraine.

China refused to help Russia. India is getting tough on Russia. 

 

 

China will do whatever serves its Interests. It wants to move goods through Ukraine to Europe. You believe anything China says? 
India will do the same. 

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It looks like the game just got changed with Russia bringing there "Kinzhal" hypersonic missile on-line. Apparently it's dubbed the "carrier killer" and can travel at speeds up to mach 12. It sounds like there's really no defense against it.

 

This is rumor stage at this point, but apparently it's been used in Ukraine recently:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/did-russian-kinzhal-missile-take-out-nato-command-center-in-ukraine/ar-AA19jEmD

 

kinzhal.JPG?VersionId=

 

This is supposedly a picture of the missile strike:

 

kinzhal strike

 

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Russia been using Kinzhal since the beggining of war. 

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4/10/2023 1:19pm Edited Date/Time 4/10/2023 1:20pm
kongols wrote:

Russia been using Kinzhal since the beggining of war. 

Oh, it's the 1st I've heard of it. 

Here's supposedly a video of it going overhead. Man that thing is screaming! Sounds like 2 hypersonic booms.

https://twitter.com/search?q=%40WAELALLHUSSAINI%20KINZHAL&src=typed_query&f=top

 

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3 Tres wrote:
It looks like the game just got changed with Russia bringing there "Kinzhal" hypersonic missile on-line. Apparently it's dubbed the "carrier killer" and can travel at...

It looks like the game just got changed with Russia bringing there "Kinzhal" hypersonic missile on-line. Apparently it's dubbed the "carrier killer" and can travel at speeds up to mach 12. It sounds like there's really no defense against it.

 

This is rumor stage at this point, but apparently it's been used in Ukraine recently:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/did-russian-kinzhal-missile-take-out-nato-command-center-in-ukraine/ar-AA19jEmD

 

kinzhal.JPG?VersionId=

 

This is supposedly a picture of the missile strike:

 

kinzhal strike

 

That picture is from  Al-Hamran in Syria. Russia bombed fuel market.

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3 Tres wrote:
It looks like the game just got changed with Russia bringing there "Kinzhal" hypersonic missile on-line. Apparently it's dubbed the "carrier killer" and can travel at...

It looks like the game just got changed with Russia bringing there "Kinzhal" hypersonic missile on-line. Apparently it's dubbed the "carrier killer" and can travel at speeds up to mach 12. It sounds like there's really no defense against it.

 

This is rumor stage at this point, but apparently it's been used in Ukraine recently:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/did-russian-kinzhal-missile-take-out-nato-command-center-in-ukraine/ar-AA19jEmD

 

kinzhal.JPG?VersionId=

 

This is supposedly a picture of the missile strike:

 

kinzhal strike

 

kongols wrote:

That picture is from  Al-Hamran in Syria. Russia bombed fuel market.

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4/11/2023 2:30am Edited Date/Time 4/11/2023 2:43am
3 Tres wrote:
It looks like the game just got changed with Russia bringing there "Kinzhal" hypersonic missile on-line. Apparently it's dubbed the "carrier killer" and can travel at...

It looks like the game just got changed with Russia bringing there "Kinzhal" hypersonic missile on-line. Apparently it's dubbed the "carrier killer" and can travel at speeds up to mach 12. It sounds like there's really no defense against it.

 

This is rumor stage at this point, but apparently it's been used in Ukraine recently:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/did-russian-kinzhal-missile-take-out-nato-command-center-in-ukraine/ar-AA19jEmD

 

kinzhal.JPG?VersionId=

 

This is supposedly a picture of the missile strike:

 

kinzhal strike

 

kongols wrote:

That picture is from  Al-Hamran in Syria. Russia bombed fuel market.

3 Tres wrote:

Sandboxx gives a good breakdown of the Kinzhal missile..

https://youtube.com/shorts/I7EXGOTJ7UA?feature=share

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