Pourcel remains in the 250f class

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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 1:28pm
tranlated from motoverte website-

sounds like the french aren't to happy at Pourcels decision which they feel is based purely on money...

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Chris Pourcel enlist in 250 at Pro Circuit ...



Christophe Pourcel took the decision nets Kawasaki Pro Circuit and continue the adventure in 250 F. .. © Lebig


It's now official, Christophe Pourcel will continue one more year to work with Pro Circuit Kawasaki team. The SX Lites East Champion aligned so again in 250 F for next season instead of evolving into the premier class in 450. A decision to say the least surprising ...

The announcement from the firm through one of its French sponsors, it is now accepted as Christophe Pourcel will roll again in the Supercross Lites season. Winner of this year's series on the east coast of East / West facing Ryan Dungey and second in outdoor, the French did not go far from the perfect season for his return to competition. In fact, a broken engine around which the private outdoor title ... In view of these results, we do not understand why Marseille did not eager to go up to the big boys? We may exclude from the outset the lack of proposal for the next level. As he says himself, Christopher has received proposals from many team "works" or even private. Beginning with Suzuki offering him a handlebar with his opponent this season's Ryan Dungey. A sporting option with non-negligible presence at his side to a francophone in the person of Roger De Coster. DRC - remember, the JMB has also led to new highs in 1991 ... Refusal of the French. There remained then the solution Kawasaki 450. And, surprise, when we could expect to see CP get Ryan Villopoto, Chad Reed is who picks up the handlebars. Yamaha, Honda, Yamaha L & M with Stewart, all tracks have resurfaced before we finally learn that Christopher will remain one more season in his team and with the same program!

What strategy?
What strategy behind all this? That's the problem ... Christophe What interest can he have to move one more season in 250? Obviously, always according to many observers, no! But what is its underlying motivation? The fear of not being physically at the height? It's hard to believe. Able to prepare in 450 during the season without the pressure of the race? Hardly "downstream" when we know that all who saw him drive in 450 consider even stronger than 250 ... The fear of challenge? Not really the character of CP ... An end strategic calculation? Sorry to remind you, but the last time that Christopher has opted for a "season of transition" that has not really ended. The man obviously needs to challenge and history has shown him so violent that the reasoning in the competition is an essential element, which is at most an athlete on the rise. Remains one point: money. And if CP refused today sporting logical evolution in his career for a history of "money"? The fact that CP through its title acquired in Lites has a contract more attractive to intensify in the category at PC rather evolve in 450 is not the real key to the story? This is an interesting line of thought ... Normally, that CP does not want to "bargain" on the cheap, you can understand. He does not want to mount category while agreeing to earn less, we can also understand. By cons, if the phenomenon is induced by an unprecedented crisis which hit the U.S. industry MX and all the drivers - except perhaps James Stewart - are largely affected and forced against their will to do with, we can then ask questions about the decision of Christopher.
CP would not he have done better to make an effort to adapt - even to swallow his pride - and pursue his sporting challenge, rather than trying at all costs to maximize profit ... Obviously, this is the last option Christophe Pourcel apparently agreed. Too bad for the sport! KJ
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There remained then the solution Kawasaki 450. And, surprise, when we could expect to see CP get Ryan Villopoto, Chad Reed is who picks up the handlebars.

That's funny right there, I don't care who you are.
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10/20/2009 8:19am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 2:50am
It's smart for CP to stay down an additional year.

Let's face facts, he has only one season of American SX under his belt and could use an additional year of seasoning on US racing before moving up to the bigs.

He's come off a life and career threatening injury to race in the US last season, no need to push it even further by stepping up too soon.

The more time he takes, the more he can prolong his career.

Tossing him in the deep end too soon could wind up with catastrophic results.


Slow down to go faster




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Good for him and I hope he cleans house next year good luck cp
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Reading that hurt my head.

I would like to see him do 250 in SX and 450 in MX.

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What's wrong with a job decision based on money?
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flarider wrote:
It's smart for CP to stay down an additional year. Let's face facts, he has only one season of American SX under his belt and could...
It's smart for CP to stay down an additional year.

Let's face facts, he has only one season of American SX under his belt and could use an additional year of seasoning on US racing before moving up to the bigs.

He's come off a life and career threatening injury to race in the US last season, no need to push it even further by stepping up too soon.

The more time he takes, the more he can prolong his career.

Tossing him in the deep end too soon could wind up with catastrophic results.


Slow down to go faster




Maybe it's because ive never been in the situation and never will be, but I dont understand this type of thinking. The guy has been on motorcycles his entire life, It isnt like a 450 is something new to him. No matter what you are going to have a rookie season and make rookie mistakes, why prolong it? Another year on 250Fs seems like a waste to me, he obviously has the speed to compete.
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Maybe it's because ive never been in the situation and never will be, but I dont understand this type of thinking. The guy has been on...
Maybe it's because ive never been in the situation and never will be, but I dont understand this type of thinking. The guy has been on motorcycles his entire life, It isnt like a 450 is something new to him. No matter what you are going to have a rookie season and make rookie mistakes, why prolong it? Another year on 250Fs seems like a waste to me, he obviously has the speed to compete.
Ever been to and seen/walked a GP track?
Ever seen a Euro "SX" track?



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Maybe it's because ive never been in the situation and never will be, but I dont understand this type of thinking. The guy has been on...
Maybe it's because ive never been in the situation and never will be, but I dont understand this type of thinking. The guy has been on motorcycles his entire life, It isnt like a 450 is something new to him. No matter what you are going to have a rookie season and make rookie mistakes, why prolong it? Another year on 250Fs seems like a waste to me, he obviously has the speed to compete.
flarider wrote:
Ever been to and seen/walked a GP track?
Ever seen a Euro "SX" track?



I have seen them on tv, never in person though
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He wants to move up to the 450 class a champion. He'll get a better contract if he adds another 2 titles to his name. You have to remember that motocross is a pretty short career for most riders.

Dave's first post hits the nail on the head.
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I have seen them on tv, never in person though
Does TV really give you an idea of what the track is truly like?
Is it an accurate visual perspective?

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I have seen them on tv, never in person though
flarider wrote:
Does TV really give you an idea of what the track is truly like?
Is it an accurate visual perspective?

I am going to jump in here and say no.

After watching SX for years my son and I got to go to ATL SX in 08 and took the track walk.....those guys are fucking crazy.

I couldn't believe how much different it was than how it looked on TV, it will give you a new respect for those guys.
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oshow wrote:
Reading that hurt my head.

I would like to see him do 250 in SX and 450 in MX.
I think thats not a bad idea he proved last year he was the best 250f rider in the AMA series in both SX and motocross and he is even better on a 450 apparantly, I dont see what he has to gain by proving he is the best for a 2nd year... if he loses or gets hurt his value goes down... in the 450 he would have had a year to find his feet.
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I have seen them on tv, never in person though
flarider wrote:
Does TV really give you an idea of what the track is truly like?
Is it an accurate visual perspective?

no. Im assuming you are trying to make the point that Pourcel has limited SX experience
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I am going to jump in here and say no. After watching SX for years my son and I got to go to ATL SX in...
I am going to jump in here and say no.

After watching SX for years my son and I got to go to ATL SX in 08 and took the track walk.....those guys are fucking crazy.

I couldn't believe how much different it was than how it looked on TV, it will give you a new respect for those guys.
Thank you
TV doesn't do the tracks justice.
I remember when I saw Gatorback's "Elevator" (old one, before it was cut back) on video and it looked like nothing...it was far from nothing

Euro SX tracks are more AX than SX, way different...not even close
Euro MX tracks are more natural and less "jumpy"
There is no "Larocco's Leap" in Europe
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Gp tracks are nearly more jumpy that the US tracks now... and Pourcel already won the east supercross title... I think he wanted more money and didn't get it... maybe his health issues make him unable to race 17 suipercross and 12 outdoors but talent wise he is better than dungey and dungey moverd up, he could run with or near RV reed and Bubba if he moved up imo
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TV vs reality is night and day. GH this year had a straight on the far west side of the track coming from the Monster Energy jump. The riders would go flying by in person so fast it was unreal. On the replay, it didn't look any different than what I feel like I am doing when I am riding. I know I never go any where near that fast in reality, TV makes it look tame.
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10/20/2009 9:13am Edited Date/Time 10/20/2009 9:13am
What's up with the 250 class, CP's just sand-bagging, move him up to the 450's and let the real rookies race the 250's only.
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He isn't breaking any rules is he? He is thinking about HIS career. You guys going to support him if he moves up and it doesn't work out?
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How is it sandbagging if he's legal under the rules in the class?
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The governing body and promoters needs to decide if it is really an entry level class where you have to earn points before you can race 450's, or if it is just another pro class.

If it is an entry level class where you gain expierence, champions should be required to move up to 450's.

If it is just another pro class, run it as one and drop the whole move up to 450's deal.
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10/20/2009 9:40am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 2:50am
I pretty much agree with your first post Dave. Except, the current belief Is the Lites class is a primer for the SX class. With that belief, Pourcel won the title in his first attempt. Pretty safe to assume he transitioned well and quickly.


If we truly feel that the Lites is a primer class than there should be a rule that you have to move up when you win a title. I have no problem with a title winner staying down but if they are permitted to stay down let's no longer pretend that we really believe it's a primer class.


The Lites racing is incredible and should be considered simply it's own series.

HahaHoligan and I were on the same page at the same time.
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No for sure it's the way it is so yes you get guys like CP staying on a 250, just I would like to see all the main guy's together in one race and the new blood rookies in the 250's.

... and come on he is well ready for the big show!
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flarider wrote:
It's smart for CP to stay down an additional year. Let's face facts, he has only one season of American SX under his belt and could...
It's smart for CP to stay down an additional year.

Let's face facts, he has only one season of American SX under his belt and could use an additional year of seasoning on US racing before moving up to the bigs.

He's come off a life and career threatening injury to race in the US last season, no need to push it even further by stepping up too soon.

The more time he takes, the more he can prolong his career.

Tossing him in the deep end too soon could wind up with catastrophic results.


Slow down to go faster




I agree with each statement, expecially the one about prolonging his career. Considering how he looked this past year he has a chance to really put his name in the record books. I'll say it...........undefeated season.............

Also, he mentioned having another sugery in the off season. I'm sure that will need time ti heal as well.


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I really don't consider the 250F class a development class anymore. I anticipate it as much as the 450F class. The rules should change with the sport, it is a Pro class that is campaigned as hard as the 450 class.
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The supercross 250f class is a development class but outdoors it isn't
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mccread wrote:
The supercross 250f class is a development class but outdoors it isn't
"The supercross 250f class is a development"

Riiiiight.


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oh man, I was really hoping he was moving up.... the SX class needs some fresh blood and he would have made a great addition. He beat up on Dungey all MX season long, and I am sure it would have continued had he moved up.
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mccread wrote:
The supercross 250f class is a development class but outdoors it isn't
P wrote:
"The supercross 250f class is a development"

Riiiiight.


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it is - for the 450 class -that's why it is regional, and a shorter series....
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The 250 and 450 classes should both be considered premier classes, and a 125 2T class should be created as the entry level pro class.
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Whatever....by the rules, he's legal

I think the east/west thing is bullshit and it should be one series and fuck all the "development series" bullshit

but, whatever, he's legal to race the 250F, he has only one year in the class, one year on US tracks...let it go

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