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Other than Chase possibly to KTM what else are we hearing?

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You have got to think Kawasaki is ready to clean house from top to bottom  250-450.   the question is Who would they replace with ? 

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Maybe  Malcolm to Kaw ?    Move Hampshire up to take his place ?          Webb to Star   .        Honda is full.       

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OR Racer46 wrote:
Maybe  Malcolm to Kaw ?    Move Hampshire up to take his place ?          Webb to Star   .        Honda...

Maybe  Malcolm to Kaw ?    Move Hampshire up to take his place ?          Webb to Star   .        Honda is full.       

How is Honda full? they have two 250 riders and one on a 450...

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Chase to KTM is most likely going to happen.

Malcolm resigning with Husky is looking likely.

Haven't heard anything about El Hombre.

I think Webb’s situation has a lot to do with if Eli decides to race next year. 

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Everyone is waiting for Tomac to decide what he's doing

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OR Racer46 wrote:
Maybe  Malcolm to Kaw ?    Move Hampshire up to take his place ?          Webb to Star   .        Honda...

Maybe  Malcolm to Kaw ?    Move Hampshire up to take his place ?          Webb to Star   .        Honda is full.       

DonM wrote:

How is Honda full? they have two 250 riders and one on a 450...

If hunter wins this championship. He is apparently on the 450 next year. If that starts at sx or mx who knows.

So Honda will either need a 450 guy in sx. Then a 250 guy in mx.

Or A 250 guy for the whole season.

also on pulp and other sources have said once both the lawrences are on 450s the 250 factory team will no longer be in house.

so 2025 the 250s could be else where.

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OR Racer46 wrote:

You have got to think Kawasaki is ready to clean house from top to bottom  250-450.   the question is Who would they replace with ? 

I thought AC's contract ran through 2024.

Not sure on Ando's contract.

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OR Racer46 wrote:
Maybe  Malcolm to Kaw ?    Move Hampshire up to take his place ?          Webb to Star   .        Honda...

Maybe  Malcolm to Kaw ?    Move Hampshire up to take his place ?          Webb to Star   .        Honda is full.       

DonM wrote:

How is Honda full? they have two 250 riders and one on a 450...

mx313 wrote:
If hunter wins this championship. He is apparently on the 450 next year. If that starts at sx or mx who knows. So Honda will either...

If hunter wins this championship. He is apparently on the 450 next year. If that starts at sx or mx who knows.

So Honda will either need a 450 guy in sx. Then a 250 guy in mx.

Or A 250 guy for the whole season.

also on pulp and other sources have said once both the lawrences are on 450s the 250 factory team will no longer be in house.

so 2025 the 250s could be else where.

Honda does not care about the 250s do they? yet all the other manufacterers are gung-ho. Even in MX barely any CRF250..

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OR Racer46 wrote:

You have got to think Kawasaki is ready to clean house from top to bottom  250-450.   the question is Who would they replace with ? 

Spat24 wrote:

I thought AC's contract ran through 2024.

Not sure on Ando's contract.

AC is signed through 2024.

Anderson is in a contract year. I think he'll sign a 1-year extension.

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Triumph....

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top 9 450 riders contracts are up....

wild accusations that are completely made up

- Webb to HRC to mentor Jett within the 450 class for a SX only contract. hunter moves up after SX.

- Sexton to KTM

- Jcoop,Tomac & DF14 stay with star yamaha.

- Anderson & Ferry to triumph.

- Shimoda to 450's? moves up to Factory Kawi and joins AC9?

 

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top 9 450 riders contracts are up.... wild accusations that are completely made up - Webb to HRC to mentor Jett within the 450 class for...

top 9 450 riders contracts are up....

wild accusations that are completely made up

- Webb to HRC to mentor Jett within the 450 class for a SX only contract. hunter moves up after SX.

- Sexton to KTM

- Jcoop,Tomac & DF14 stay with star yamaha.

- Anderson & Ferry to triumph.

- Shimoda to 450's? moves up to Factory Kawi and joins AC9?

 

Won't see Anderson at Triumph until 2025 when they introduce their 450 team.

Shimoda I believe is riding the 250 for another 2 years. Kawi should sign him to a long-term deal if they haven't already.

Swoll & Ferry as the 250 riders at Triumph?

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top 9 450 riders contracts are up.... wild accusations that are completely made up - Webb to HRC to mentor Jett within the 450 class for...

top 9 450 riders contracts are up....

wild accusations that are completely made up

- Webb to HRC to mentor Jett within the 450 class for a SX only contract. hunter moves up after SX.

- Sexton to KTM

- Jcoop,Tomac & DF14 stay with star yamaha.

- Anderson & Ferry to triumph.

- Shimoda to 450's? moves up to Factory Kawi and joins AC9?

 

-MAVERICK- wrote:
Won't see Anderson at Triumph until 2025 when they introduce their 450 team. Shimoda I believe is riding the 250 for another 2 years. Kawi should...

Won't see Anderson at Triumph until 2025 when they introduce their 450 team.

Shimoda I believe is riding the 250 for another 2 years. Kawi should sign him to a long-term deal if they haven't already.

Swoll & Ferry as the 250 riders at Triumph?

Based on the way he rode the 450 over here last year, I'd be pretty bummed to see Jo stay on a 250 for another 2 years.

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top 9 450 riders contracts are up.... wild accusations that are completely made up - Webb to HRC to mentor Jett within the 450 class for...

top 9 450 riders contracts are up....

wild accusations that are completely made up

- Webb to HRC to mentor Jett within the 450 class for a SX only contract. hunter moves up after SX.

- Sexton to KTM

- Jcoop,Tomac & DF14 stay with star yamaha.

- Anderson & Ferry to triumph.

- Shimoda to 450's? moves up to Factory Kawi and joins AC9?

 

-MAVERICK- wrote:
Won't see Anderson at Triumph until 2025 when they introduce their 450 team. Shimoda I believe is riding the 250 for another 2 years. Kawi should...

Won't see Anderson at Triumph until 2025 when they introduce their 450 team.

Shimoda I believe is riding the 250 for another 2 years. Kawi should sign him to a long-term deal if they haven't already.

Swoll & Ferry as the 250 riders at Triumph?

Sully wrote:
Based on the way he rode the 450 over here last year, I'd be pretty bummed to see Jo stay on a 250 for another 2...

Based on the way he rode the 450 over here last year, I'd be pretty bummed to see Jo stay on a 250 for another 2 years.

yeah Jo has been open about him preferring to ride the 450 too. i think his smooth style will suit it well.

 

The biggest part is the whole Webb & Sexton deal...

Sexton wants to be the #1 rider.

but what happens if Webb finishes better in the season or wins the title? does KTM let Webb go? if he stays, Sexton wont go to KTM. If Yamaha already have a full 450 team, Webb chances to be back on star Yamaha slim down.

where does sexton go if he doesn't go to KTM?

With Jett moving up he wont stay at HRC

 

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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Won't see Anderson at Triumph until 2025 when they introduce their 450 team. Shimoda I believe is riding the 250 for another 2 years. Kawi should...

Won't see Anderson at Triumph until 2025 when they introduce their 450 team.

Shimoda I believe is riding the 250 for another 2 years. Kawi should sign him to a long-term deal if they haven't already.

Swoll & Ferry as the 250 riders at Triumph?

Sully wrote:
Based on the way he rode the 450 over here last year, I'd be pretty bummed to see Jo stay on a 250 for another 2...

Based on the way he rode the 450 over here last year, I'd be pretty bummed to see Jo stay on a 250 for another 2 years.

yeah Jo has been open about him preferring to ride the 450 too. i think his smooth style will suit it well.     The biggest...

yeah Jo has been open about him preferring to ride the 450 too. i think his smooth style will suit it well.

 

The biggest part is the whole Webb & Sexton deal...

Sexton wants to be the #1 rider.

but what happens if Webb finishes better in the season or wins the title? does KTM let Webb go? if he stays, Sexton wont go to KTM. If Yamaha already have a full 450 team, Webb chances to be back on star Yamaha slim down.

where does sexton go if he doesn't go to KTM?

With Jett moving up he wont stay at HRC

 

Long shot, but Sexton could replace Anderson at Kawi. 

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dan22 wrote:

Honda does not care about the 250s do they? yet all the other manufacterers are gung-ho. Even in MX barely any CRF250..

Barely any crf250's ?? there were 9 out of the 22 in the Daytona 250 class main.

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3/5/2023 5:02pm
OR Racer46 wrote:
Maybe  Malcolm to Kaw ?    Move Hampshire up to take his place ?          Webb to Star   .        Honda...

Maybe  Malcolm to Kaw ?    Move Hampshire up to take his place ?          Webb to Star   .        Honda is full.       

DonM wrote:

How is Honda full? they have two 250 riders and one on a 450...

mx313 wrote:
If hunter wins this championship. He is apparently on the 450 next year. If that starts at sx or mx who knows. So Honda will either...

If hunter wins this championship. He is apparently on the 450 next year. If that starts at sx or mx who knows.

So Honda will either need a 450 guy in sx. Then a 250 guy in mx.

Or A 250 guy for the whole season.

also on pulp and other sources have said once both the lawrences are on 450s the 250 factory team will no longer be in house.

so 2025 the 250s could be else where.

Hunter will be on a 250 next year. 

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Sully wrote:
Based on the way he rode the 450 over here last year, I'd be pretty bummed to see Jo stay on a 250 for another 2...

Based on the way he rode the 450 over here last year, I'd be pretty bummed to see Jo stay on a 250 for another 2 years.

yeah Jo has been open about him preferring to ride the 450 too. i think his smooth style will suit it well.     The biggest...

yeah Jo has been open about him preferring to ride the 450 too. i think his smooth style will suit it well.

 

The biggest part is the whole Webb & Sexton deal...

Sexton wants to be the #1 rider.

but what happens if Webb finishes better in the season or wins the title? does KTM let Webb go? if he stays, Sexton wont go to KTM. If Yamaha already have a full 450 team, Webb chances to be back on star Yamaha slim down.

where does sexton go if he doesn't go to KTM?

With Jett moving up he wont stay at HRC

 

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Long shot, but Sexton could replace Anderson at Kawi. 

another wild thought. Sexton to gas gas? would be the only 450 rider and main focus for the team? which is what he is wanting.

considering the amount of contracts up.. every one has a chance of being anywhere

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another wild thought. Sexton to gas gas? would be the only 450 rider and main focus for the team? which is what he is wanting. considering...

another wild thought. Sexton to gas gas? would be the only 450 rider and main focus for the team? which is what he is wanting.

considering the amount of contracts up.. every one has a chance of being anywhere

IMO, I don't see Sexton going over to GasGas at this stage in his career. If he's going to be the number 1 guy over at the KTM Group, he'd do so on a KTM. 

Then there's the whole TLD gear situation.

I think Barcia will be staying put where he is. 

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To me the only real question is the second spot at HRC... who slots in there?

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another wild thought. Sexton to gas gas? would be the only 450 rider and main focus for the team? which is what he is wanting. considering...

another wild thought. Sexton to gas gas? would be the only 450 rider and main focus for the team? which is what he is wanting.

considering the amount of contracts up.. every one has a chance of being anywhere

-MAVERICK- wrote:
IMO, I don't see Sexton going over to GasGas at this stage in his career. If he's going to be the number 1 guy over at...

IMO, I don't see Sexton going over to GasGas at this stage in his career. If he's going to be the number 1 guy over at the KTM Group, he'd do so on a KTM. 

Then there's the whole TLD gear situation.

I think Barcia will be staying put where he is. 

Barcia will be there another year.
 

Decoster and Ian want Sexton.  

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So if Sexton goes to KTM.. Where does that leave Webb and Honda?

 

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top 9 450 riders contracts are up.... wild accusations that are completely made up - Webb to HRC to mentor Jett within the 450 class for...

top 9 450 riders contracts are up....

wild accusations that are completely made up

- Webb to HRC to mentor Jett within the 450 class for a SX only contract. hunter moves up after SX.

- Sexton to KTM

- Jcoop,Tomac & DF14 stay with star yamaha.

- Anderson & Ferry to triumph.

- Shimoda to 450's? moves up to Factory Kawi and joins AC9?

 

-MAVERICK- wrote:
Won't see Anderson at Triumph until 2025 when they introduce their 450 team. Shimoda I believe is riding the 250 for another 2 years. Kawi should...

Won't see Anderson at Triumph until 2025 when they introduce their 450 team.

Shimoda I believe is riding the 250 for another 2 years. Kawi should sign him to a long-term deal if they haven't already.

Swoll & Ferry as the 250 riders at Triumph?

Sully wrote:
Based on the way he rode the 450 over here last year, I'd be pretty bummed to see Jo stay on a 250 for another 2...

Based on the way he rode the 450 over here last year, I'd be pretty bummed to see Jo stay on a 250 for another 2 years.

Jo is still young. Only 20.

 

Give him 23 and 24 on a 250 to win a title or 2. Then he can goto 450s at 22. By then he will be able to command a decent ride.

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3/5/2023 6:49pm
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Maybe  Malcolm to Kaw ?    Move Hampshire up to take his place ?          Webb to Star   .        Honda...

Maybe  Malcolm to Kaw ?    Move Hampshire up to take his place ?          Webb to Star   .        Honda is full.       

DonM wrote:

How is Honda full? they have two 250 riders and one on a 450...

mx313 wrote:
If hunter wins this championship. He is apparently on the 450 next year. If that starts at sx or mx who knows. So Honda will either...

If hunter wins this championship. He is apparently on the 450 next year. If that starts at sx or mx who knows.

So Honda will either need a 450 guy in sx. Then a 250 guy in mx.

Or A 250 guy for the whole season.

also on pulp and other sources have said once both the lawrences are on 450s the 250 factory team will no longer be in house.

so 2025 the 250s could be else where.

Where did you hear this about Hunter? Previous they made it clear he will be on a 250 till his contract expires at Honda. 

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Anybody heard what Beta motorcycles plans are.   I know they introduced a 450rx at redbud last year but haven’t hear much since.  I thought they wanted in? 

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DonM wrote:

How is Honda full? they have two 250 riders and one on a 450...

mx313 wrote:
If hunter wins this championship. He is apparently on the 450 next year. If that starts at sx or mx who knows. So Honda will either...

If hunter wins this championship. He is apparently on the 450 next year. If that starts at sx or mx who knows.

So Honda will either need a 450 guy in sx. Then a 250 guy in mx.

Or A 250 guy for the whole season.

also on pulp and other sources have said once both the lawrences are on 450s the 250 factory team will no longer be in house.

so 2025 the 250s could be else where.

Where did you hear this about Hunter? Previous they made it clear he will be on a 250 till his contract expires at Honda. 

I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in one of his post race interviews. or maybe on one of them Redbull Lawrence shows. But Hunter said he would be going 450's next year if all went to plan. I'm guessing the plan is to win SX and MX this year. defend the title and move up next years in outdoors

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mx313 wrote:
If hunter wins this championship. He is apparently on the 450 next year. If that starts at sx or mx who knows. So Honda will either...

If hunter wins this championship. He is apparently on the 450 next year. If that starts at sx or mx who knows.

So Honda will either need a 450 guy in sx. Then a 250 guy in mx.

Or A 250 guy for the whole season.

also on pulp and other sources have said once both the lawrences are on 450s the 250 factory team will no longer be in house.

so 2025 the 250s could be else where.

Where did you hear this about Hunter? Previous they made it clear he will be on a 250 till his contract expires at Honda. 

I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in one of his post race interviews. or maybe on one of them Redbull Lawrence shows. But Hunter said he...

I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in one of his post race interviews. or maybe on one of them Redbull Lawrence shows. But Hunter said he would be going 450's next year if all went to plan. I'm guessing the plan is to win SX and MX this year. defend the title and move up next years in outdoors

A lot of that depends on who’s on their 450 next year.

 If they get a good 450 guy, Hunter is out at the end of next year.  

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Where did you hear this about Hunter? Previous they made it clear he will be on a 250 till his contract expires at Honda. 

I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in one of his post race interviews. or maybe on one of them Redbull Lawrence shows. But Hunter said he...

I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in one of his post race interviews. or maybe on one of them Redbull Lawrence shows. But Hunter said he would be going 450's next year if all went to plan. I'm guessing the plan is to win SX and MX this year. defend the title and move up next years in outdoors

UpTiTe wrote:
A lot of that depends on who’s on their 450 next year.  If they get a good 450 guy, Hunter is out at the end of...

A lot of that depends on who’s on their 450 next year.

 If they get a good 450 guy, Hunter is out at the end of next year.  

I'm pretty sure it was in the preseason interviews from that ranch Honda do the launch. It was even in ML's interview with him.

ML: goals for this season?

Hunter: win championships and be on the 450 next year.

Hunter is about 23-24 he wants to be out of the 250 class asap. If he cleans up and wins sx,mx and smx. I can't see him being 250s much longer.

If he wins only the sx. Who knows what happens. 

Honda have a 450 spot ready to go. And Hunter is going to get that spot when he is ready. Just depends when that is.

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B Gotti wrote:

Other than Chase possibly to KTM what else are we hearing?

Chase to Star and Dylan to KTM or Gas Gas.  I hope for Chase, but I hope Dylan stays put.

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A season or 2 ago ktm wanted to have 2 riders. 2 on husky and 1-2 on tld. The only reason they had 3 was to keep marv and not making him join another team late in his career as he had been so loyal to ktm.

Is that still the case?

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