How is Jett Lawrence allowed to sell donuts…..

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Local dirt track dudes run merch stands at Po-Dunk Speedway to support their racing. Promoter charges a fee and has a designated area for merch tables. Wives and Moms run little cargo trailers behind their suvs. It's a family affair and everybody has a part to play. This can be done in SX if Feld wants to give a little extra effort. 

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What if privateers require a $25 DONATION at their pit and the recipient gets a free prize AKA a shirt in their correct size. Nobody is selling anything. Free prize with every donation.

There's also a certain privateer that sells the most amazing jerky in the pits. I buy some every year.

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devotid wrote:
Im just spit ballin here.... but I would buy a shirt that supports all the current Privateers for each season. Make it a $100 for one...

Im just spit ballin here.... but I would buy a shirt that supports all the current Privateers for each season. Make it a $100 for one shirt (Designed by a quality PROVEN artist) and then divide the payout by the finishing order of all of them. Maybe the top 30 privateers.

Kind of like Mathis was doing but add a few merch items to get these guys some bread. 

Plenty privateers out there selling stuff.
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Let him sell his damn donuts!

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C.Worthy wrote:
What if privateers require a $25 DONATION at their pit and the recipient gets a free prize AKA a shirt in their correct size. Nobody is...

What if privateers require a $25 DONATION at their pit and the recipient gets a free prize AKA a shirt in their correct size. Nobody is selling anything. Free prize with every donation.

There's also a certain privateer that sells the most amazing jerky in the pits. I buy some every year.

I know that in the past there have been rules against giving away  stuff too.  I don't know if they still exist and or what was not allowed .  I think a rig provided by Feld would be the most realistic way of getting it to happen in the quickest time frame. 

I think selling out of the pits , as unrefined as it might sound. I think it would provide the best sales numbers for the privateers . A fan could make an impulse buy after meeting a rider , right there at their pit.  Setting up a trailer would require more promotion to let fans know which riders merch was for the rider they wanted to support.  I imagine that it wouldn't be just shirts with the racers name , number or  pic of them on the shirt.   A bunch of identical shirts with just a name or number change might work, but I think that there are a lot of racers out there with wild personalities and their shirts should showcase them better than that.    If you look at some of what Youtubers have for shirts, many do not have the channel or creators name on them. I would think the same would be true for rider merch that was really in the personality of each rider.  That way it would not only provide a way for fans to give them some funding, but also provide a way for new fans to find them . 

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Feld is missing out on a potential revenue stream, and I bet it's for good reason. 

For one, it helps protect their bread-and-butter sponsorship streams from competition. (Wouldn't want vendors selling RedBull and Rockstar in the pits, competing with the title sponsor!) You can be sure they've already looked at making more money with this, and have decided it's not viable. 

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3/2/2023 11:27am
Danny818 wrote:
Jettson Donuts at the Supercross races,  But the privateers can’t sell their r-shirts? (Privateers need the money more then Jett)  Nothing against Jett Lawrence.!

Jettson Donuts at the Supercross races,  But the privateers can’t sell their r-shirts? (Privateers need the money more then Jett)

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 Nothing against Jett Lawrence.!

because he did a deal with Feld and gave them a cut, 

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3/2/2023 11:28am
El Capitan wrote:
Local dirt track dudes run merch stands at Po-Dunk Speedway to support their racing. Promoter charges a fee and has a designated area for merch tables...

Local dirt track dudes run merch stands at Po-Dunk Speedway to support their racing. Promoter charges a fee and has a designated area for merch tables. Wives and Moms run little cargo trailers behind their suvs. It's a family affair and everybody has a part to play. This can be done in SX if Feld wants to give a little extra effort. 

you would need the stadiums to get there cut to tho, 

 

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These days, I would think that any rider would be smarter to sell their merch on their own social media vs. The headache transporting the stuff to races. 

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GuyB wrote:
These days, I would think that any rider would be smarter to sell their merch on their own social media vs. The headache transporting the stuff...

These days, I would think that any rider would be smarter to sell their merch on their own social media vs. The headache transporting the stuff to races. 

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GuyB wrote:
These days, I would think that any rider would be smarter to sell their merch on their own social media vs. The headache transporting the stuff...

These days, I would think that any rider would be smarter to sell their merch on their own social media vs. The headache transporting the stuff to races. 

Yep, if a privateer doesn't have a Vlog, solid social media presence and a website selling merch....they aren't trying hard enough to make money and I don't wanna hear them whine about Feld not letting them sell merch.  

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3/2/2023 12:22pm
El Capitan wrote:
Local dirt track dudes run merch stands at Po-Dunk Speedway to support their racing. Promoter charges a fee and has a designated area for merch tables...

Local dirt track dudes run merch stands at Po-Dunk Speedway to support their racing. Promoter charges a fee and has a designated area for merch tables. Wives and Moms run little cargo trailers behind their suvs. It's a family affair and everybody has a part to play. This can be done in SX if Feld wants to give a little extra effort. 

I thought it was cool the year I went to the Daytona road races and flat track that the flat trackers sold t shirts out of the back of their box vans.  Seemed very grass roots, like older days of mx.

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3/2/2023 12:25pm
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I had occasion to visit a greasy diner in Escondido last Tuesday…. Anyway, I ordered a burger and, with my view of the kitchen, was able...

I had occasion to visit a greasy diner in Escondido last Tuesday…. Anyway, I ordered a burger and, with my view of the kitchen, was able to see the cook grab some uncooked meat- and slap it into his armpit to form a patty, and throw it on the grill. Horrified, I called for the manager to complain, to which she responded “that’s nothing, honey, you should see how he makes the donuts!”         Chachacha….73252732-38D7-4DB9-9415-65C938D84518

 

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 Or as they make the dogs in RI (or used to) at one of Guy Fieri's favorite haunts.

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3/2/2023 12:26pm Edited Date/Time 3/2/2023 12:32pm
GuyB wrote:
These days, I would think that any rider would be smarter to sell their merch on their own social media vs. The headache transporting the stuff...

These days, I would think that any rider would be smarter to sell their merch on their own social media vs. The headache transporting the stuff to races. 

If I take my kids to a race and am walking through the pits and one of them sees a cool t-shirt or hoodie I would be inclined to make a spontaneous purchase. People at live events tend to be looking for souvenirs to buy. Zero chance I am going on my own to look for a random privateer's merch website. They should at least have the option of selling merch at the races, in addition to online.

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Magoofan wrote:
Thank you, but I'll stick to Marys donuts.  If you're a San Diego resident (birthplace of many of the greatest mx racers) and like donuts, you...

Thank you, but I'll stick to Marys donuts.  If you're a San Diego resident (birthplace of many of the greatest mx racers) and like donuts, you know about Marys.

Old building (they've since moved into two newer locations).

 

Sorry, but the only real Mary's location is owned by Mary. The one in Santee and Lakeside are not real Mary's. 

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Gotta have money to make money. A lot of privateers don’t have the disposable income to start this up. It’s a shame because with out the privateer,there wouldn’t be a full gate. I say let them sell what they can to make money so they can make it to the next race. Jett can do this because he’s worth a few million,Logan Karnow is lucky to make  100k? Field is already making a shot ton of money,give these privateers a break.

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Magoofan wrote:
Thank you, but I'll stick to Marys donuts.  If you're a San Diego resident (birthplace of many of the greatest mx racers) and like donuts, you...

Thank you, but I'll stick to Marys donuts.  If you're a San Diego resident (birthplace of many of the greatest mx racers) and like donuts, you know about Marys.

Old building (they've since moved into two newer locations).

 

Mauka wrote:

Sorry, but the only real Mary's location is owned by Mary. The one in Santee and Lakeside are not real Mary's. 

The one in Santee now is the original....moved down the street from the Mission Gorge location (old location image i shared).

https://sandiego.eater.com/2015/9/1/9241623/after-30-years-in-santee-ma…

I did not know they Lakeside one is different owner...and then there is a third claiming to be affiliated.

https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2019/may/13/stringers-marys-donuts-…

 

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mxracer71 wrote:
Gotta have money to make money. A lot of privateers don’t have the disposable income to start this up. It’s a shame because with out the...

Gotta have money to make money. A lot of privateers don’t have the disposable income to start this up. It’s a shame because with out the privateer,there wouldn’t be a full gate. I say let them sell what they can to make money so they can make it to the next race. Jett can do this because he’s worth a few million,Logan Karnow is lucky to make  100k? Field is already making a shot ton of money,give these privateers a break.

100k a year isnt a struggle
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GuyB wrote:
These days, I would think that any rider would be smarter to sell their merch on their own social media vs. The headache transporting the stuff...

These days, I would think that any rider would be smarter to sell their merch on their own social media vs. The headache transporting the stuff to races. 

Yep and they will sell way more online through their SM then to a few people randomly finding them in the pits...

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GuyB wrote:
These days, I would think that any rider would be smarter to sell their merch on their own social media vs. The headache transporting the stuff...

These days, I would think that any rider would be smarter to sell their merch on their own social media vs. The headache transporting the stuff to races. 

DonM wrote:

Yep and they will sell way more online through their SM then to a few people randomly finding them in the pits...

So you don't think they should even have the option?

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GuyB wrote:
These days, I would think that any rider would be smarter to sell their merch on their own social media vs. The headache transporting the stuff...

These days, I would think that any rider would be smarter to sell their merch on their own social media vs. The headache transporting the stuff to races. 

DonM wrote:

Yep and they will sell way more online through their SM then to a few people randomly finding them in the pits...

GrapeApe wrote:

So you don't think they should even have the option?

Didn't say that...If they put all their efforts into their social media promoting their merch and selling online is better than having to make room and haul their inventory state to state race to race then selling 50 shirts a race...and they will sell more online anyways.

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GuyB wrote:
These days, I would think that any rider would be smarter to sell their merch on their own social media vs. The headache transporting the stuff...

These days, I would think that any rider would be smarter to sell their merch on their own social media vs. The headache transporting the stuff to races. 

DonM wrote:

Yep and they will sell way more online through their SM then to a few people randomly finding them in the pits...

GrapeApe wrote:

So you don't think they should even have the option?

They do have the option.. its just expensive 

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Feld gets a cut of the money made, that’s how

Yep.  Lucas explained it all on Pulp a few weeks ago.  They presented the idea to Feld and made a deal.  Any rider could present similar...

Yep.  Lucas explained it all on Pulp a few weeks ago.  They presented the idea to Feld and made a deal.  Any rider could present similar opportunities and they may or may not do it.  Strongest wins and he pulls tons of fans.  

That said, I cannot understand why teams and riders cannot sell merchandise in the pits.  The t-shirt stands would still do just fine with all the fans that only come for the night show which is most fans anyway.  Even of Feld took a cut, it would be cool as a fan to have more than a few options of ugly shirts etc like we have now.  

 

Found it hard to listen when his agent had to say "right" after every sentence.  Drives me nuts when people at work say that when they are presenting, to me that tells me they don't believe what they are saying and trying to convince themselves.

Also found it funny when he was saying how reporting on riders should be more like stick and ball sport reporting on athletes. Then latter on when talking about upcoming contracts with Jo and others he said he couldn't talk money.  Well that's one of the major things reported on with the mainstream athletes!

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Gotta have money to make money. A lot of privateers don’t have the disposable income to start this up. It’s a shame because with out the...

Gotta have money to make money. A lot of privateers don’t have the disposable income to start this up. It’s a shame because with out the privateer,there wouldn’t be a full gate. I say let them sell what they can to make money so they can make it to the next race. Jett can do this because he’s worth a few million,Logan Karnow is lucky to make  100k? Field is already making a shot ton of money,give these privateers a break.

mxb2 wrote:
100k a year isnt a struggle

Depends if that $100k is actual income or before expenses when he's paying for bike, transportation, maintenance, etc.

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I would say it is a pretty good bet that jet is getting a cut instead of feld.

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mxracer71 wrote:
Gotta have money to make money. A lot of privateers don’t have the disposable income to start this up. It’s a shame because with out the...

Gotta have money to make money. A lot of privateers don’t have the disposable income to start this up. It’s a shame because with out the privateer,there wouldn’t be a full gate. I say let them sell what they can to make money so they can make it to the next race. Jett can do this because he’s worth a few million,Logan Karnow is lucky to make  100k? Field is already making a shot ton of money,give these privateers a break.

mxb2 wrote:
100k a year isnt a struggle
yak651 wrote:

Depends if that $100k is actual income or before expenses when he's paying for bike, transportation, maintenance, etc.

True, but also alot of costs can be cut, sprinter vans,20 inch wheels, pitbikes,etc. Kinda hard to think some are struggling when they post videos of their big houses, toys , vacations. Etc.
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mxracer71 wrote:
Gotta have money to make money. A lot of privateers don’t have the disposable income to start this up. It’s a shame because with out the...

Gotta have money to make money. A lot of privateers don’t have the disposable income to start this up. It’s a shame because with out the privateer,there wouldn’t be a full gate. I say let them sell what they can to make money so they can make it to the next race. Jett can do this because he’s worth a few million,Logan Karnow is lucky to make  100k? Field is already making a shot ton of money,give these privateers a break.

mxb2 wrote:
100k a year isnt a struggle
yak651 wrote:

Depends if that $100k is actual income or before expenses when he's paying for bike, transportation, maintenance, etc.

Say a guy is making 100k before expenses. So you have your sprinter payment,paying for a bike or two. Gas,parts, travel expenses. When it all said and done,he could be making 40/60k . That isint crap in todays world. All im Saying is let these privateers sell some shirts and help them with some gas or entry fee money at the next race.

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mxb2 wrote:
100k a year isnt a struggle
yak651 wrote:

Depends if that $100k is actual income or before expenses when he's paying for bike, transportation, maintenance, etc.

mxracer71 wrote:
Say a guy is making 100k before expenses. So you have your sprinter payment,paying for a bike or two. Gas,parts, travel expenses. When it all said...

Say a guy is making 100k before expenses. So you have your sprinter payment,paying for a bike or two. Gas,parts, travel expenses. When it all said and done,he could be making 40/60k . That isint crap in todays world. All im Saying is let these privateers sell some shirts and help them with some gas or entry fee money at the next race.

Yep Kwik Trip pays 20 bucks/hour

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mxracer71 wrote:
Say a guy is making 100k before expenses. So you have your sprinter payment,paying for a bike or two. Gas,parts, travel expenses. When it all said...

Say a guy is making 100k before expenses. So you have your sprinter payment,paying for a bike or two. Gas,parts, travel expenses. When it all said and done,he could be making 40/60k . That isint crap in todays world. All im Saying is let these privateers sell some shirts and help them with some gas or entry fee money at the next race.

 

If you are a privateer who is racing Daytona and you're not in Tampa tonight I don't want to hear any sob stories. With a $10 grand pro purse a privateer could make more money Thursday than Saturday night. 

There is money out there, you just have to go out and make it, the series shouldn't have to go out and make all kinds of special kiosks or vendor areas for a guy who may sell 10 t-shirts. 

Motocross and Supercross are true meritocracies the way it should be.  

 

Tampa MX

 

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