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Please specify section and paragraph where it describes the vp gets to downgrade and declassify. I scrolled through the 30 pages on my phone and must have missed it other than where it talks about the original official or supervisory official. And the yadda yadda yadda
So I'm going to question you on that.
According to you, the president can't declassified a document on his own for no reason other than he decided to do it?
I don't believe it. The president has the Supreme authority to do it.
You have a section/paragraph for that?
If you went to an east Texas school youre at least a double-naught spy !
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And probably in college before he discovered that it's not pronounced "Okry".
Sorry...I should have been more clear. The President certainly has the authority to declassify. But, he can't just have his people throw documents in a box, have them stored God knows where, and say he declassified it.
There is a procedure. It's not particularly complicated but strictly structured to ensure tracking and disposition.
Any document marked for declassification must be inspected to ensure it's disclosure doesn't reference other classified info. Or to ensure that "new" info might require the old info to remain classified.
I'm not doing a good job of explaining this...my bad. The bottom line is...the President has wide authority and power but it is not limitless. He can declassify by following the proper procedure.
I went the fry cook route.
And taters, maters, dawg.
Little Suzie asks little Johnny what he's eating..."Grapes" he says. Where'd you get 'em? "Off'n that dawg".
Or, I imagine, blanket declassification of boxes of documents without knowing specifically what they are.
And presumably a former President has no power of declassification at all.
That should qualify as treason……
Jesus we need to start doing exit interviews & property searches with these presidents, especially the ones on the way out.
Wouldn't need to if those people would just adhere to proper classified handling proceedure.
Apparently, the rules have been ignored for a long time. This should be on the house floor for investigation asap.
If it isn't...that means neither party wants to be looked at very closely.
Me thinks this doesn't give Biden authority to declassify given the current info we have? I say this because some of the information was classified when he was a senator. At least that's what I thought I read.
WTH do I know though...
PART 3—DECLASSIFICATION AND DOWNGRADING Sec. 3.1. Authority for Declassification.
(a) Information shall be declassified as soon as it no longer meets the standards for classification under this order.
(b) Information shall be declassified or downgraded by:
(1) the official who authorized the original classification, if that official is still serving in the same position and has original classification authority;
(2) the originator’s current successor in function, if that individual has original classification authority;
(3) a supervisory official of either the originator or his or her successor in function, if the supervisory official has original classification authority; or
(4) officials delegated declassification authority in writing by the agency head or the senior agency official of the originating agency.
They keep their security clearances but may be read off.
It's really not that hard or complicated to follow the rules. I'd say what we're seeing is a complete and total breakdown of the "security" system. Looks like they have castrated the folks put in place to control access, dissemination, control and storage of classified information.
When I was the guy charged with this responsibility...I had a few dickhead officers that didn't want to play ball. They out ranked me but my trump card was..."You can do anything you want Colonel...just sign here saying you refuse to follow regulations". Never failed to lock up every document...every night.
Damn glad that I never had that opportunity.
I wasn't ever military, but I was building secret aircraft.
The Navy took 18 months to secure me because I admitted that I was caught with a joint when I was 16, and all charges were expunged upon my graduation.
They told me to never lie to Navy. I didn't. Took 18 fucking months.
They were coming by my bench daily trying to get me on the new program. Sorry, I told the truth.
It was crazy.
Finally some captain called me into his office. He said that they were really seeking my involvement in this new program, and I should do what ever I could to be involved.
I said, "Captain, I quit giving a shit a year ago. I thought you were looking for good toolmakers."
He said ; "Sir, they believe they have found one".
One question. If you're at a party, and a joint is being passed around, do you partake?
I said... "Perhaps"
He fell back in his chair yelling "No man".
I said "Never lie".
He asked me again. I said no.
NAVAL TOP SECRET CLEARANCE
You can get an airforce clearance with a pulse evidently.
Pit Row
Back before secret email was common, every copy of a secret document that was produced was numbered and you signed for it. It was known who had what. If that didn’t happen there were just a few copies of something and you had to go to a co trolled area and be given access to it.
Now, people are entitled to this information and convenience. Just ask Hillary about her “classified”basement server.
I said all that because the badge they gave me was never to be exposed outside the plant.
I could actually be put in prison for wearing my badge in public.
Of course it wasn't happening, but it could.
I never exposed it. We were building secret shit that never worked....
Imagine having to abide by the requirements of USC 18…and quite a few others…from the age of 18 - 50+…& then seeing this mad mess of stupidity?
From a POTUS having code word classified materials in a multitude of locations over TENS OF YEARS to some of those materials originating in his “Senate Years” & being removed -illegally- from a very serious “secure location” within the capitol…to his RIDICULOUS comments about how they were sorta safe because they were stored in the garage…with his Vette…and then there’s this…
Grown men come in here & provide cover for these actions.
Wow.
We've reached the point where not finding classified docs at a Biden residence is now news...
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-searches-bidens-rehoboth-beach-home-amid-classified/story?id=96817125
And be POTUS also.
I call BS. You just have to say it didn't work.
Nice of them to give him, close to, a two week notice before doing so.
at least they are being transparent about it, LOL!
Wait-a-tick…
“It didn’t work”…?…or…”It was canceled before it was flown”…?
It’s nice too have the option to say,“No, thank you.”…which is something you lose when you’re no longer a civilian…I was told that by a true gentleman that I worked with as he transitioned form Captain to Admiral. The things he told me were as educational as life gets.
Good times.
😂😂 man what an f’ing joke that indignant bitch is. What a fantastic spokesperson for the White House.
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