Mitch Payton wants to hire David Vuillemin for Forkner

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1/18/2023 6:15am Edited Date/Time 1/18/2023 6:16am
That's a dumb question to ask. Do I know forker? What do you think my response would be?  Again... Trying to stir up unnecessary drama, like...

That's a dumb question to ask. Do I know forker? What do you think my response would be? 

Again... Trying to stir up unnecessary drama, like always. 

Just move on man. This is like the 5th time you have tried to stir up drama with me. It's sad. 

It’s an honest question. I simply asked if you knew him personally to form that opinion and look at your response. It’s not that big of a stretch to think you might know him. All these guys grow up at the same tracks a lot of us race at. Might want to look in the mirror when you’re giving your drama queen and move on speeches. Try not to be so sensitive. 

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That's a dumb question to ask. Do I know forker? What do you think my response would be?  Again... Trying to stir up unnecessary drama, like...

That's a dumb question to ask. Do I know forker? What do you think my response would be? 

Again... Trying to stir up unnecessary drama, like always. 

Just move on man. This is like the 5th time you have tried to stir up drama with me. It's sad. 

It’s an honest question. I simply asked if you knew him personally to form that opinion and look at your response. It’s not that big of...

It’s an honest question. I simply asked if you knew him personally to form that opinion and look at your response. It’s not that big of a stretch to think you might know him. All these guys grow up at the same tracks a lot of us race at. Might want to look in the mirror when you’re giving your drama queen and move on speeches. Try not to be so sensitive. 

You really think I'm friends with Ausitn forker lol. C'mon man. 

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You really think I'm friends with Ausitn forker lol. C'mon man. 

No, I don’t think he would ever be your friend. You don’t have to be friends with someone to know them and people don’t typically say those kinds of things about their friends. They also don’t typically know those kinds of things about someone unless they actually know them. I see the same stuff on TV that you do and I don’t see Austin as overly emotional or sensitive, hence the question. You are welcome to your opinion though. 

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You really think I'm friends with Ausitn forker lol. C'mon man. 

No, I don’t think he would ever be your friend. You don’t have to be friends with someone to know them and people don’t typically say...

No, I don’t think he would ever be your friend. You don’t have to be friends with someone to know them and people don’t typically say those kinds of things about their friends. They also don’t typically know those kinds of things about someone unless they actually know them. I see the same stuff on TV that you do and I don’t see Austin as overly emotional or sensitive, hence the question. You are welcome to your opinion though. 

How would you describe Mr. Forker? 

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It's OK to have an opinion... This is professional sports we're talking about. It's for entertainment. If no one had an opinion this forum wouldn't exist.

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You’re the only person trying to attack someone here. Your posts are garbage. Surely you’ve seen the response. Please show me where I defended Austin. I...

You’re the only person trying to attack someone here. Your posts are garbage. Surely you’ve seen the response. Please show me where I defended Austin. I asked if he personally knew Austin to see if this is an opinion he formed in real life from actual interaction or just an impression he formed from the couch. Nice try though. 

Sure pal. Is that why you attack others here? Is that why you and the other vitards attacked me personally and my riding ability in the Forkner... thread over a month ago  for suggesting he wouldn't be a contender and had not changed enough to change anything?

 

Bet your all for it now that you know Mitch was all in.

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c0ncEpT wrote:

It's OK to have an opinion... This is professional sports we're talking about. It's for entertainment. If no one had an opinion this forum wouldn't exist.

exactly! 

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Sure pal. Is that why you attack others here? Is that why you and the other vitards attacked me personally and my riding ability in the...

Sure pal. Is that why you attack others here? Is that why you and the other vitards attacked me personally and my riding ability in the Forkner... thread over a month ago  for suggesting he wouldn't be a contender and had not changed enough to change anything?

 

Bet your all for it now that you know Mitch was all in.

Who’s attacking who here? Please show me who I’ve attacked? Laughing Try not to be so emotional and sensitive.

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How would you describe Mr. Forker? 

An extremely talented young dirt bike racer that’s dedicated his life to the sport we love? Fast but injury plagued? Not sure exactly what you’re looking for here. Unlike you, I don’t spread negativity annout certain riders I don’t care for every chance I get. 

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1/18/2023 6:58am Edited Date/Time 1/18/2023 7:05am

How would you describe Mr. Forker? 

An extremely talented young dirt bike racer that’s dedicated his life to the sport we love? Fast but injury plagued? Not sure exactly what you’re looking...

An extremely talented young dirt bike racer that’s dedicated his life to the sport we love? Fast but injury plagued? Not sure exactly what you’re looking for here. Unlike you, I don’t spread negativity annout certain riders I don’t care for every chance I get. 

Show me where I spread all this rider negativity? Or are you going to continue pulling fact less BS out of your ass?

Calling someone emotional and sensitive is not an insult or being negative toward Forker. All these riders have different personality traits. Not sure what your huge hangup here is, other than stirring up drama. 

Some may call Cooper Webb cold and unemotional. Some Call Eli quiet and reserved. Discussing athletes' personalities is a part of any sport. But I guess it's not okay with you.. 

 

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1/18/2023 6:59am Edited Date/Time 1/18/2023 7:08am
Who’s attacking who here? Please show me who I’ve attacked?  Try not to be so emotional and sensitive.

Who’s attacking who here? Please show me who I’ve attacked? Laughing Try not to be so emotional and sensitive.

You always take it to a personal level...

 

I guess calling me a smart ass, emotional/sensetive and my posts garbage is not a personal attack in your playbook. That's just me in this thread for starters. I can't begin to count the folks you attack.

 

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You always take it to a personal level...   I guess calling me a smart ass, emotional/sensetive and my posts garbage is not a personal attack...

You always take it to a personal level...

 

I guess calling me a smart ass, emotional/sensetive and my posts garbage is not a personal attack in your playbook. That's just me in this thread for starters. I can't begin to count the folks you attack.

 

I’ve never conversed with you previously. You came at me. Couldn’t care less what you think.  

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You always take it to a personal level...   I guess calling me a smart ass, emotional/sensetive and my posts garbage is not a personal attack...

You always take it to a personal level...

 

I guess calling me a smart ass, emotional/sensetive and my posts garbage is not a personal attack in your playbook. That's just me in this thread for starters. I can't begin to count the folks you attack.

 

I’ve never conversed with you previously. You came at me. Couldn’t care less what you think.  

You care WAY TOO MUCH. 

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Show me where I spread all this rider negativity? Or are you going to continue pulling fact less BS out of your ass? Calling someone emotional...

Show me where I spread all this rider negativity? Or are you going to continue pulling fact less BS out of your ass?

Calling someone emotional and sensitive is not an insult or being negative toward Forker. All these riders have different personality traits. Not sure what your huge hangup here is, other than stirring up drama. 

Some may call Cooper Webb cold and unemotional. Some Call Eli quiet and reserved. Discussing athletes' personalities is a part of any sport. But I guess it's not okay with you.. 

 

I could comb through your post history if I gave a shit, but I don’t. You’re full of negativity and display it often. 

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Show me where I spread all this rider negativity? Or are you going to continue pulling fact less BS out of your ass? Calling someone emotional...

Show me where I spread all this rider negativity? Or are you going to continue pulling fact less BS out of your ass?

Calling someone emotional and sensitive is not an insult or being negative toward Forker. All these riders have different personality traits. Not sure what your huge hangup here is, other than stirring up drama. 

Some may call Cooper Webb cold and unemotional. Some Call Eli quiet and reserved. Discussing athletes' personalities is a part of any sport. But I guess it's not okay with you.. 

 

I could comb through your post history if I gave a shit, but I don’t. You’re full of negativity and display it often. 

Maybe you should keep an eye on what you're doing on here and stop worrying so much about me and others... Its weird... Move on man. 

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Keep talking guys. If you get in the last word, you’ll “win”. Laughing

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Cool to see DV closing Musquins' amazing career together. However, would have loved to see him work with Forkner. You can hate the kid but I...

Cool to see DV closing Musquins' amazing career together. However, would have loved to see him work with Forkner. You can hate the kid but I think a change of scenery would be good to him. His talent is undeniable.   

DV does not believe in talent. 

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Maybe it was one of your previous Usernames that he conversed with and you're the one who's confused.

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You guys f**ked this thread down the crapper

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Arguing on the internet is like the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded....

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Arguing on the internet is like the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded....

Uh, oh…now you’ve done it…

Wait for it! Laughing

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You mean that you don’t like to be talked about personally? In the same way that you talk about Austin personally? Sounds a little hypocritical to me

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Arguing on the internet is like the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded....

Well, that's a bit aggressive. 

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i dont wanna point to many fingers here...but look at the track record of the Oklahoma riders... 

IMO Reynard was way to good for the bikes he had during his time....  also, IMO, none of these riders are Robbie Reynards level, on scale.  And I truly believe that.  Forkner, sure...But he hasn't proved your argument right and has proved me right so far...  He has more available, but is he capable of getting to it safely?

i will get bashed, its typical..

Canard followed people about .000000009 of an inch behind so if an accident came up he had no room to deal with it.

Colt Nichols has always gotten hurt.  Youth and Pro.

Bloss? I mean honestly, everyone can hate me for saying it, but he wouldn't have any rides if it wasn't for dad.  Props for having that support though.  No hate here. 

Forkner, I said it before he went pro, and got bashed...  Lots of pressure was put on him young at PC, but now he's working with the " we can work with speed" saying to keep rides, and some good rides when he finishes...  DV could help A LOT, but he's gotta be willing to change a lot.  And that goes for people around him.

I grew up knowing all of these guys, and i don't think that should equal hating people if they gave opinions from the outside looking in.  Especially if you are close to some of the teams, the industry, or the people.   

thats my 10 cents, bring on the downvotes!

 

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i dont wanna point to many fingers here...but look at the track record of the Oklahoma riders...  IMO Reynard was way to good for the bikes...

i dont wanna point to many fingers here...but look at the track record of the Oklahoma riders... 

IMO Reynard was way to good for the bikes he had during his time....  also, IMO, none of these riders are Robbie Reynards level, on scale.  And I truly believe that.  Forkner, sure...But he hasn't proved your argument right and has proved me right so far...  He has more available, but is he capable of getting to it safely?

i will get bashed, its typical..

Canard followed people about .000000009 of an inch behind so if an accident came up he had no room to deal with it.

Colt Nichols has always gotten hurt.  Youth and Pro.

Bloss? I mean honestly, everyone can hate me for saying it, but he wouldn't have any rides if it wasn't for dad.  Props for having that support though.  No hate here. 

Forkner, I said it before he went pro, and got bashed...  Lots of pressure was put on him young at PC, but now he's working with the " we can work with speed" saying to keep rides, and some good rides when he finishes...  DV could help A LOT, but he's gotta be willing to change a lot.  And that goes for people around him.

I grew up knowing all of these guys, and i don't think that should equal hating people if they gave opinions from the outside looking in.  Especially if you are close to some of the teams, the industry, or the people.   

thats my 10 cents, bring on the downvotes!

 

I get what you're saying on the injury front because the guys training at Reynard's seem to be on the injured list a lot, but it hasn't been that bad for riders out of Oklahoma. 

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i dont wanna point to many fingers here...but look at the track record of the Oklahoma riders...  IMO Reynard was way to good for the bikes...

i dont wanna point to many fingers here...but look at the track record of the Oklahoma riders... 

IMO Reynard was way to good for the bikes he had during his time....  also, IMO, none of these riders are Robbie Reynards level, on scale.  And I truly believe that.  Forkner, sure...But he hasn't proved your argument right and has proved me right so far...  He has more available, but is he capable of getting to it safely?

i will get bashed, its typical..

Canard followed people about .000000009 of an inch behind so if an accident came up he had no room to deal with it.

Colt Nichols has always gotten hurt.  Youth and Pro.

Bloss? I mean honestly, everyone can hate me for saying it, but he wouldn't have any rides if it wasn't for dad.  Props for having that support though.  No hate here. 

Forkner, I said it before he went pro, and got bashed...  Lots of pressure was put on him young at PC, but now he's working with the " we can work with speed" saying to keep rides, and some good rides when he finishes...  DV could help A LOT, but he's gotta be willing to change a lot.  And that goes for people around him.

I grew up knowing all of these guys, and i don't think that should equal hating people if they gave opinions from the outside looking in.  Especially if you are close to some of the teams, the industry, or the people.   

thats my 10 cents, bring on the downvotes!

 

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I get what you're saying on the injury front because the guys training at Reynard's seem to be on the injured list a lot, but it...

I get what you're saying on the injury front because the guys training at Reynard's seem to be on the injured list a lot, but it hasn't been that bad for riders out of Oklahoma. 

Guy Cooper 1990 125 MX Champ

Trey Canard 2008 250 SX East Champ

Trey Canard 2010 250 MX Champ

Justin Bogle 2014 250 SX East Champ

Colt Nichols 2021 250 SX East Champ

no, and im not trying to shit on them one bit... its really hard to convey message via text...im one of the worst at it i would say, also. HA.  i am not saying any of these guys suck... i am just saying theres something fishy thats all. idk if its certain drills going on out there or what.  but it does seem like a weird dark cloud over that area. 

 

and to be clear, i would do anything to have the speed austin forkner has.  so, i am not shitting on anyones riding abilities WHAT SO EVER!

 

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i dont wanna point to many fingers here...but look at the track record of the Oklahoma riders...  IMO Reynard was way to good for the bikes...

i dont wanna point to many fingers here...but look at the track record of the Oklahoma riders... 

IMO Reynard was way to good for the bikes he had during his time....  also, IMO, none of these riders are Robbie Reynards level, on scale.  And I truly believe that.  Forkner, sure...But he hasn't proved your argument right and has proved me right so far...  He has more available, but is he capable of getting to it safely?

i will get bashed, its typical..

Canard followed people about .000000009 of an inch behind so if an accident came up he had no room to deal with it.

Colt Nichols has always gotten hurt.  Youth and Pro.

Bloss? I mean honestly, everyone can hate me for saying it, but he wouldn't have any rides if it wasn't for dad.  Props for having that support though.  No hate here. 

Forkner, I said it before he went pro, and got bashed...  Lots of pressure was put on him young at PC, but now he's working with the " we can work with speed" saying to keep rides, and some good rides when he finishes...  DV could help A LOT, but he's gotta be willing to change a lot.  And that goes for people around him.

I grew up knowing all of these guys, and i don't think that should equal hating people if they gave opinions from the outside looking in.  Especially if you are close to some of the teams, the industry, or the people.   

thats my 10 cents, bring on the downvotes!

 

-MAVERICK- wrote:
I get what you're saying on the injury front because the guys training at Reynard's seem to be on the injured list a lot, but it...

I get what you're saying on the injury front because the guys training at Reynard's seem to be on the injured list a lot, but it hasn't been that bad for riders out of Oklahoma. 

Guy Cooper 1990 125 MX Champ

Trey Canard 2008 250 SX East Champ

Trey Canard 2010 250 MX Champ

Justin Bogle 2014 250 SX East Champ

Colt Nichols 2021 250 SX East Champ

Let's not forget Cliff Palmer 1992 Arenacross champion

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i dont wanna point to many fingers here...but look at the track record of the Oklahoma riders...  IMO Reynard was way to good for the bikes...

i dont wanna point to many fingers here...but look at the track record of the Oklahoma riders... 

IMO Reynard was way to good for the bikes he had during his time....  also, IMO, none of these riders are Robbie Reynards level, on scale.  And I truly believe that.  Forkner, sure...But he hasn't proved your argument right and has proved me right so far...  He has more available, but is he capable of getting to it safely?

i will get bashed, its typical..

Canard followed people about .000000009 of an inch behind so if an accident came up he had no room to deal with it.

Colt Nichols has always gotten hurt.  Youth and Pro.

Bloss? I mean honestly, everyone can hate me for saying it, but he wouldn't have any rides if it wasn't for dad.  Props for having that support though.  No hate here. 

Forkner, I said it before he went pro, and got bashed...  Lots of pressure was put on him young at PC, but now he's working with the " we can work with speed" saying to keep rides, and some good rides when he finishes...  DV could help A LOT, but he's gotta be willing to change a lot.  And that goes for people around him.

I grew up knowing all of these guys, and i don't think that should equal hating people if they gave opinions from the outside looking in.  Especially if you are close to some of the teams, the industry, or the people.   

thats my 10 cents, bring on the downvotes!

 

-MAVERICK- wrote:
I get what you're saying on the injury front because the guys training at Reynard's seem to be on the injured list a lot, but it...

I get what you're saying on the injury front because the guys training at Reynard's seem to be on the injured list a lot, but it hasn't been that bad for riders out of Oklahoma. 

Guy Cooper 1990 125 MX Champ

Trey Canard 2008 250 SX East Champ

Trey Canard 2010 250 MX Champ

Justin Bogle 2014 250 SX East Champ

Colt Nichols 2021 250 SX East Champ

He's just making excuses for RR. Yes he could ride and had natural talent but if anyone could have used a trainer to get in shape RR is the poster child. Chronic arm pump yes but RR being too good for the bikes at the time, that's just laughable. 

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Sure pal. Is that why you attack others here? Is that why you and the other vitards attacked me personally and my riding ability in the...

Sure pal. Is that why you attack others here? Is that why you and the other vitards attacked me personally and my riding ability in the Forkner... thread over a month ago  for suggesting he wouldn't be a contender and had not changed enough to change anything?

 

Bet your all for it now that you know Mitch was all in.

Dude you're the most insufferable poster on here in a long time, to the point I don't even know if you're just a troll laughing at the incredibly bad takes and opinions you come up with.

The fact you're calling someone else out is just another confusing turn. Sloan?? 😂

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