Jason Lawrence Incarcerated

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9/9/2009 8:11am Edited Date/Time 9/9/2009 8:17am
lostboy819 wrote:
From transworld mx...."Former Western Region 250cc Supercross Champion Jason Lawrence was booked and arrested today on charges related to his assault of his friend Ryan McGriddle...
From transworld mx...."Former Western Region 250cc Supercross Champion Jason Lawrence was booked and arrested today on charges related to his assault of his friend Ryan McGriddle last summer. Details about the length of Lawrence’s sentence are unknown, but TWMX is currently awaiting a return call from Lawrence’s manager, Scott Sepkovic.

Stay tuned for more details".


http://motocross.transworld.net/...wrence-incarcerated/
Didn't he win a championship for YOT?? There was no more YOT this year, it was his team with YOT as a sponsor.
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9/9/2009 8:11am
Dave, everything you said is true, and it needed to be put out there.

Sepcovic is no Drew Rosenhaus, that's for sure.

Hopefully Jason will become a better person from this, and come out with some contacts and he can turn things around. He can promote this debacle with some customs jerseys, shirts, etc. And hopefully he can show his talent is still there and come back and win more races.

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9/9/2009 8:12am
Anyone else notice that part of his probation says that he can't consume alcohol?
They also have two middle names listed?
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9/9/2009 8:13am
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Well at least they let him finish out the racing season before arresting him LOLOLOL
"racing"....and you use the term lightly

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9/9/2009 8:14am
There was no Yot this year..... my point exactly. He won that championship for them, that's why they believed in him after that. JLaw led them down a bad path and they followed.
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people who go to jail and are model inmates often get released early - sometimes they may only serve 1/3 of their sentences, depending on what...
people who go to jail and are model inmates often get released early - sometimes they may only serve 1/3 of their sentences, depending on what they've done and their history.

he could be out well before a year is up, and in the end whether he learns anything could be a moot point after all.
yup...lindsey lohan got out waay earlier and jason has way better looking hair so it could happen
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9/9/2009 8:15am
UpTiTe wrote:
Real prison is not like a movie where everyone is high on herion, getting raped and killing for the gang. Prison-jail is just like anywhere else...
Real prison is not like a movie where everyone is high on herion, getting raped and killing for the gang. Prison-jail is just like anywhere else in life, you get out of it what you put in, if you look for trouble youll find it. If you keep your mouth shut, youll be fine.

Prison - jail isnt a fun place to be, but its not as bad as the movies say.


If he got 365 days, he wont see prison, in California he will go to a county run facility, some kind of honor farm or ranch where he will have to work. In a county run facility if he stays out of trouble he will do 6 months.



He should be thanking god he isnt in L.A. county.
You've obviously never been on a level 4 or higher prison yard...
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9/9/2009 8:16am
Jail is a lot harder than prison. Prison is set up for long term imprisonment and has more luxuries.
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9/9/2009 8:20am
88sdad wrote:
Jail is a lot harder than prison. Prison is set up for long term imprisonment and has more luxuries.
Yeah your right, going to a place long term with people who do not have much to lose is way easier than going somewhere short term. Where the people are actually looking forward to getting out.. Brilliant!!!
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I would like to make one very clear point in regards to all of this and it has less to do with Jason and more with...
I would like to make one very clear point in regards to all of this and it has less to do with Jason and more with his representation.


Scott Sepkovic is his manager and someone who should have kept tighter controls on many things in regards to Jason over the last couple years, but this situation is a blazing spotlight on what people call "managers" in this industry.

A REAL PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE MANAGER, like you find with professional athletes (Drew Rosenhaus comes to mind), would have already had a prepared statement written and delivered to the media prior to it getting to this point, instead of one paragraph "it has come to our attention" articles within the media. The fact that calls from the media in regards to the client (Jason) are not being returned is another example of the unprofessionalism of rider managers in MX. This is NOT the first time this has happened in this sport, where a rider has an on or off track incident and it is just ignored by their management, leaving media and fans to guess and internet forums to run wild with speculation.

I am going to catch shit for this and I know it, my phone will ring, emails will come in and some will ignore me in the future, I know this and expect it, because that is how it goes in MX on the "professional" side.

But reality is, there are managers who are little more than people with friends and a few connections they use to network and call/beg favors for their clients. Few, if any of them, are lawyers, have any real world experience outside of MX or any type of college degree in sports management.


A REAL MANAGER would be a professional and represent their clients in a professional manner, not hide from the phone or ignore situations hoping that it just goes away.

Industry people bitch about the internet and how people come up with all these wild and crazy stories and theories.....well, guess who's fault that is? It's the fault of those who keep mum on everything and aren't effectively communicating fact and reality to the masses.


You riders want to stop all the stupid rumors about you? Maybe you should look into how a real manager performs their job.


Rosenhaus once said (Paraphrasing) "If one of my clients get in trouble, they are told to call me before they call anyone else, before they call their wife, mom or coach, even if it's 2am, you call ME. I will get your bail paid, get you picked up from the jail, on a private jet out of town if necessary and have a press release out before the sun rises and anyone knows it even happened"


Jason's management should be controlling this message, not this thread or forum



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took balls to write that dave...but really, maybe scott is a good manager and a good dude...all stories i've been told though..from prominent players in mx say he is one big fuckball. there has to be some good managers out there....no?
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9/9/2009 8:22am
88sdad wrote:
Jail is a lot harder than prison. Prison is set up for long term imprisonment and has more luxuries.
Trip wrote:
Yeah your right, going to a place long term with people who do not have much to lose is way easier than going somewhere short term...
Yeah your right, going to a place long term with people who do not have much to lose is way easier than going somewhere short term. Where the people are actually looking forward to getting out.. Brilliant!!!
The people in prison, started in jail.
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9/9/2009 8:25am
88sdad wrote:
Jail is a lot harder than prison. Prison is set up for long term imprisonment and has more luxuries.
Depends on what you're in for too...
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88sdad wrote:
Jail is a lot harder than prison. Prison is set up for long term imprisonment and has more luxuries.
Trip wrote:
Yeah your right, going to a place long term with people who do not have much to lose is way easier than going somewhere short term...
Yeah your right, going to a place long term with people who do not have much to lose is way easier than going somewhere short term. Where the people are actually looking forward to getting out.. Brilliant!!!
88sdad wrote:
The people in prison, started in jail.
yup...and he's damn lucky he ain't in AZ and a guest of sherrif joe



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Wonder what felonious offense he did to his buddy Hugh Jardon Long

who dat be?
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9/9/2009 8:42am
Anyone else notice that part of his probation says that he can't consume alcohol?
and can't leave the state of California without notification first
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9/9/2009 8:50am
88sdad wrote:
Jail is a lot harder than prison. Prison is set up for long term imprisonment and has more luxuries.
Trip wrote:
Yeah your right, going to a place long term with people who do not have much to lose is way easier than going somewhere short term...
Yeah your right, going to a place long term with people who do not have much to lose is way easier than going somewhere short term. Where the people are actually looking forward to getting out.. Brilliant!!!
88sdad wrote:
The people in prison, started in jail.
People that screw up over and over again are gonna screw up regardless.

Recidivism works for some people, but not for all.
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If i have to explain it to you, it's not work the argument buddy.

Although i don't always come off as in intellectual, I do have some brains, once in a while.

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9/9/2009 8:58am
Anyone else notice that part of his probation says that he can't consume alcohol?
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and can't leave the state of California without notification first
Sounds like terms for any probation I ever heard of. Some levels have to get permission to leave the county.
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Walter wrote:
It is hard to tell what he got from the booking info shown. On a felony one could get prison time and be taken into custody...
It is hard to tell what he got from the booking info shown.

On a felony one could get prison time and be taken into custody at the sentencing. The sentence would not be reflected in the booking record. You then get booked into the local county jail and then transferred to another facility to serve the time. Alternatively, you can get probation with county jail time as a condition thereof.

The good time credits vary substantially from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. One could get a year and a day and be required to serve it all, whereas a sentence of a year could be 6 months.

The sentencing order or minute entry would be the dispositive document to see to figure out what he really received. This should be on line at the court he was sentenced in.
Pffft......what would you know about all this stuff....???


Wink Wink Wink


(damn, that Maico in your profile looks nice!)
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9/9/2009 9:10am
Are you saying it does not work?

Are you saying that the penal system was not designed to help those convicted help to reenter society and learn from the error of their ways?

Recidivism (pronounced /rɨˈsɪdɨvɪzəm/; from recidive + ism, from Latin recidīvus "recurring", from re- "back" + cadō "I fall") is the act of a person repeating an undesirable behavior after they have either experienced negative consequences of that behavior, or have been treated or trained to extinguish that behavior. It is also known as the percentage of former prisoners who are rearrested [1].

The term is most frequently used in conjunction with substance abuse and criminal behavior. For example, scientific literature may refer to the recidivism of sexual offenders, meaning the frequency with which they are detected or apprehended committing additional sexual crimes after being released from prison for similar crimes.

Criminal recidivism is highly correlated with psychopathy.[2][3][4] The psychopath is defined by an uninhibited gratification in criminal, sexual, or aggressive impulses and the inability to learn from past mistakes.[5][6][7] Individuals with this disorder gain satisfaction through their antisocial behavior and lack remorse for their actions.[8]

To be counted as recidivism, the re-offending requires voluntary disclosure or arrest and conviction, so the real recidivism rate may differ substantially from reported rates. As another example, alcoholic recidivism might refer to the proportion of people who, after successful treatment, report having, or are determined to have, returned to the abuse of alcohol.


Seems Jason falls into those categories to me.

multiple arrests- yup
alcohol related arrests- yup
aggressive impulsive behavior- yup

Dissect it all you want but Jason fits perfectly into a prime candidate of a person who recidivism was designed to help.
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9/9/2009 9:19am
Turn your switch "off"

Put your hard on for me away, and go get some lunch.
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9/9/2009 9:21am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 2:04am
Recidivism is the act of a person repeating an undesirable behavior after they have either experienced negative consequences of that.


repeating an undesirable behavior works?

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9/9/2009 9:21am
i hope they at least toss him a smoke after his first cornholing!
9/9/2009 9:28am
MX479Guy wrote:
People that screw up over and over again are gonna screw up regardless.

Recidivism works for some people, but not for all.
Recidivism DOES work - And I can tell you from experience, it worked for me and my friends many times.
9/9/2009 9:33am
sepkovic must have been his attorney also... i find it hard to believe that they didnt drop the charges to MM's atleast. any good lawyer should be able to get those down.

i do wish i could watch it on court tv. id love to see his face when they told him he is going in for a year.
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sepkovic must have been his attorney also... i find it hard to believe that they didnt drop the charges to MM's atleast. any good lawyer should...
sepkovic must have been his attorney also... i find it hard to believe that they didnt drop the charges to MM's atleast. any good lawyer should be able to get those down.

i do wish i could watch it on court tv. id love to see his face when they told him he is going in for a year.
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9/9/2009 9:39am
Can we actually get a mugshot pic?!
9/9/2009 9:55am Edited Date/Time 9/9/2009 9:58am
Aside from the jail sentence, what other life tragedy is he also facing?

rumors abound of him having to deal with some other personal tragedy in his life.
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9/9/2009 10:19am
Jail time might be a good thing for him, it will either humble him or break him. My bro was on the wild side did a 3 year bit came out a whole different person. keep your head JLAW!!!
9/9/2009 10:20am
flarider wrote:
I would like to make one very clear point in regards to all of this and it has less to do with Jason and more with...
I would like to make one very clear point in regards to all of this and it has less to do with Jason and more with his representation.


Scott Sepkovic is his manager and someone who should have kept tighter controls on many things in regards to Jason over the last couple years, but this situation is a blazing spotlight on what people call "managers" in this industry.

A REAL PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE MANAGER, like you find with professional athletes (Drew Rosenhaus comes to mind), would have already had a prepared statement written and delivered to the media prior to it getting to this point, instead of one paragraph "it has come to our attention" articles within the media. The fact that calls from the media in regards to the client (Jason) are not being returned is another example of the unprofessionalism of rider managers in MX. This is NOT the first time this has happened in this sport, where a rider has an on or off track incident and it is just ignored by their management, leaving media and fans to guess and internet forums to run wild with speculation.

I am going to catch shit for this and I know it, my phone will ring, emails will come in and some will ignore me in the future, I know this and expect it, because that is how it goes in MX on the "professional" side.

But reality is, there are managers who are little more than people with friends and a few connections they use to network and call/beg favors for their clients. Few, if any of them, are lawyers, have any real world experience outside of MX or any type of college degree in sports management.


A REAL MANAGER would be a professional and represent their clients in a professional manner, not hide from the phone or ignore situations hoping that it just goes away.

Industry people bitch about the internet and how people come up with all these wild and crazy stories and theories.....well, guess who's fault that is? It's the fault of those who keep mum on everything and aren't effectively communicating fact and reality to the masses.


You riders want to stop all the stupid rumors about you? Maybe you should look into how a real manager performs their job.


Rosenhaus once said (Paraphrasing) "If one of my clients get in trouble, they are told to call me before they call anyone else, before they call their wife, mom or coach, even if it's 2am, you call ME. I will get your bail paid, get you picked up from the jail, on a private jet out of town if necessary and have a press release out before the sun rises and anyone knows it even happened"


Jason's management should be controlling this message, not this thread or forum



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Kind of hard to do that with what Scott has on his own plate.

If I were Jason, and chop off the hair and start downing donuts. He is way too skinny to go to jail, and the long hair won't do him any favors.

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