Is the thank God stuff necessary?

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Spend an hour in a childrens hospital.......then tell me there is a god.
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CamP wrote:
I doubt he'd appreciate that very much. Personally, I have absolutely no problem with anybody's religious beliefs as long as they keep the proselytizing to a...
I doubt he'd appreciate that very much.

Personally, I have absolutely no problem with anybody's religious beliefs as long as they keep the proselytizing to a minimum. When it's on the podium of a nationally televised mx race, it comes across a little self righteous.
X10

I feel the same way
Exactly.
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Humans as long as we can tell have allways created gods/religeons. They've provided a kind of mental security for us and a code of rules by wich we live our lives. I think if you have a rational mind its hard to justify religeon. Its not possible to believe in two religeons, so in order to be, lets say muslim, you have to be athiest in relation to christian, hindu and the thousands of other religeons that mankind has created.

Religeon is very often force fed to us when were at an age where we dont question what were told. There are obviouse darwinian reasons why at a young age we dont question what our elders say - Dont go over there you'll fall down a cliff - Dont touch that you'll burn your hand etc etc. And so having been force fed a belief system before our rational mind has really begun to take shape (around teenage years) its not surprising that so many people still believe in variouse different gods at an adult age.

Ask yourself this though - If a young kid wants to get up on a podium and thank his particular imaginary friend, then what possible harm can it do?
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Alex wrote:
Humans as long as we can tell have allways created gods/religeons. They've provided a kind of mental security for us and a code of rules by...
Humans as long as we can tell have allways created gods/religeons. They've provided a kind of mental security for us and a code of rules by wich we live our lives. I think if you have a rational mind its hard to justify religeon. Its not possible to believe in two religeons, so in order to be, lets say muslim, you have to be athiest in relation to christian, hindu and the thousands of other religeons that mankind has created.

Religeon is very often force fed to us when were at an age where we dont question what were told. There are obviouse darwinian reasons why at a young age we dont question what our elders say - Dont go over there you'll fall down a cliff - Dont touch that you'll burn your hand etc etc. And so having been force fed a belief system before our rational mind has really begun to take shape (around teenage years) its not surprising that so many people still believe in variouse different gods at an adult age.

Ask yourself this though - If a young kid wants to get up on a podium and thank his particular imaginary friend, then what possible harm can it do?
Hey Alex. I agree with everything you say except the last paragraph. Isolated there's no problem at all, he's a just a young kid and a bit like Alessi, maybe is enable to questions certain grown ups in his surroundings?

BUT as seen all around in the world, and why conflict starts there are always people with the inability to question their leaders, their fathers and their Gods and believes. I'm not saying Ryan is starting a war or conflict here, but in my view his relation with God SYMBOLS the insecureness and the inability to questioning yourself that in certain situation can make you a bad decision-maker of influencer?

The parent kid angle: My view on parents is that they obviously should love you nevertheless. If dad rejects you if you disagree with his politics or religious believes maybe you are better of without him...

This discussion is better of talking about the phenomena, not about Ryan in particular.

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Heh heh, Moto is *way* dummer'n Non-moto! Smile
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Six pages?
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9/6/2009 6:08am Edited Date/Time 9/6/2009 6:08am
croom mx wrote:
Only in QUANTUM THEORY that means the 4 forces!
CamP wrote:
You'll have to learn how to spell quantum theory before you'll ever understand it.
croom mx wrote:
I understand it better than you will ever understand the STANDARD MODEL.
Wow...
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I just took a couple hits off my peace pipe, so we would all get along.

Then I went outside, and sacrificed a kitten for the rain gods.
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DrSweden wrote:
Hey Alex. I agree with everything you say except the last paragraph. Isolated there's no problem at all, he's a just a young kid and a...
Hey Alex. I agree with everything you say except the last paragraph. Isolated there's no problem at all, he's a just a young kid and a bit like Alessi, maybe is enable to questions certain grown ups in his surroundings?

BUT as seen all around in the world, and why conflict starts there are always people with the inability to question their leaders, their fathers and their Gods and believes. I'm not saying Ryan is starting a war or conflict here, but in my view his relation with God SYMBOLS the insecureness and the inability to questioning yourself that in certain situation can make you a bad decision-maker of influencer?

The parent kid angle: My view on parents is that they obviously should love you nevertheless. If dad rejects you if you disagree with his politics or religious believes maybe you are better of without him...

This discussion is better of talking about the phenomena, not about Ryan in particular.
Alessi, on this very board, was not "unable" to answer questions about who you're implying. To equate him to a cult member because his dad is involved in his racing program is being naive or melodramatic.
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9/6/2009 7:37am
Alex wrote:
Humans as long as we can tell have allways created gods/religeons. They've provided a kind of mental security for us and a code of rules by...
Humans as long as we can tell have allways created gods/religeons. They've provided a kind of mental security for us and a code of rules by wich we live our lives. I think if you have a rational mind its hard to justify religeon. Its not possible to believe in two religeons, so in order to be, lets say muslim, you have to be athiest in relation to christian, hindu and the thousands of other religeons that mankind has created.

Religeon is very often force fed to us when were at an age where we dont question what were told. There are obviouse darwinian reasons why at a young age we dont question what our elders say - Dont go over there you'll fall down a cliff - Dont touch that you'll burn your hand etc etc. And so having been force fed a belief system before our rational mind has really begun to take shape (around teenage years) its not surprising that so many people still believe in variouse different gods at an adult age.

Ask yourself this though - If a young kid wants to get up on a podium and thank his particular imaginary friend, then what possible harm can it do?
I disagree with you a bit. I think religion was more of a way to explain what we couldn't understand. Humans don't like not knowing things, and saying that "god" created the earth instead of saying "who knows?" was easier to swallow. As science has evolved and consistently proven religion wrong, I don't understand how people can continue to believe in it.
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9/6/2009 7:47am
WOW, 6 pages! This is a moto site right? I love moto! I always liked that saying "and on the seventh day god created moto cross"...
9/6/2009 7:47am
Alex wrote:
Humans as long as we can tell have allways created gods/religeons. They've provided a kind of mental security for us and a code of rules by...
Humans as long as we can tell have allways created gods/religeons. They've provided a kind of mental security for us and a code of rules by wich we live our lives. I think if you have a rational mind its hard to justify religeon. Its not possible to believe in two religeons, so in order to be, lets say muslim, you have to be athiest in relation to christian, hindu and the thousands of other religeons that mankind has created.

Religeon is very often force fed to us when were at an age where we dont question what were told. There are obviouse darwinian reasons why at a young age we dont question what our elders say - Dont go over there you'll fall down a cliff - Dont touch that you'll burn your hand etc etc. And so having been force fed a belief system before our rational mind has really begun to take shape (around teenage years) its not surprising that so many people still believe in variouse different gods at an adult age.

Ask yourself this though - If a young kid wants to get up on a podium and thank his particular imaginary friend, then what possible harm can it do?
Nikhil wrote:
I disagree with you a bit. I think religion was more of a way to explain what we couldn't understand. Humans don't like not knowing things...
I disagree with you a bit. I think religion was more of a way to explain what we couldn't understand. Humans don't like not knowing things, and saying that "god" created the earth instead of saying "who knows?" was easier to swallow. As science has evolved and consistently proven religion wrong, I don't understand how people can continue to believe in it.
Do you really believe sceince has proven the bible wrong? HA show me where.

Most of you should pick up a bible and educate yourselfs if your going to bash it, most of you are so far off base it isnt funny. If you picked it up and read it everything you guys are saying could be answered.

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After watching my grandmother, who was a sunday school teacher and one of the sweetest most wonderful people I have ever known, turned from a healthy, energetic beautiful person into a skeleton from cancer, dying in one of the most painful, humiliating ways possible. If their is a god not only doesn't he care about us, he can kiss my ass.
9/6/2009 8:27am
Wiff3 wrote:
After watching my grandmother, who was a sunday school teacher and one of the sweetest most wonderful people I have ever known, turned from a healthy...
After watching my grandmother, who was a sunday school teacher and one of the sweetest most wonderful people I have ever known, turned from a healthy, energetic beautiful person into a skeleton from cancer, dying in one of the most painful, humiliating ways possible. If their is a god not only doesn't he care about us, he can kiss my ass.
I am sorry for your loss, but dont blame God, he didnt bring desease into the world.
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9/6/2009 8:31am
Right, it just manifested itself. Oh wait, that's how we got here too.
9/6/2009 8:35am
Wiff3 wrote:
Right, it just manifested itself. Oh wait, that's how we got here too.
Read the bible and it breaks it all down.
9/6/2009 9:37am
catatonic wrote:
Spend an hour in a childrens hospital.......then tell me there is a god.
Or spend an hour with all the bible thumpin molesters, rapists, thief's in a prison.
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WWJD
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CamP wrote:
This thread is a perfect example of why religion and politics are best kept private.

BTW, George Carlin was a genius.
a comic genius you mean
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9/6/2009 9:59am
This is a non-moto subject, and that's where this is going. Head over there if you want to continue to complain about people's beliefs (BOTH sides).
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9/6/2009 10:03am
Thank God !!




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And by the way, isn't croom mx the guy who was saying how much better he is at photography than GuyB and that sort of idiocy?
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9/6/2009 10:11am
I thought croom mx was the guy who did 2000 doubles with god as his co-pilot? Does that mean he as an inmaginary sidecar for his imaginary friend?
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Grendel wrote:
Alessi, on this very board, was not "unable" to answer questions about who you're implying. To equate him to a cult member because his dad is...
Alessi, on this very board, was not "unable" to answer questions about who you're implying. To equate him to a cult member because his dad is involved in his racing program is being naive or melodramatic.
I think the issue was to questions authorities and believes. If you are enable to see the connection maybe should give it another try?

Maybe you're the one being naive?
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`ol Ger wrote:
Thank God !!




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I'm not god.
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Nurd just admitted the truth. It's a good start.


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We're all atheists, some just believe in one more god than I do.
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9/6/2009 1:01pm
we were created and brought to this planet by intelligent beings..theres no other explanation..none
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9/6/2009 1:07pm
It always amazes me how some of the smartest, most well educated people I know believe in God.
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This is sometimes entertaining! Some of these posts are really funny!

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