Can a rider sue someone like Pingree?

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Edited Date/Time 12/2/2022 2:45pm

Basically for slander and misinformation on both things he reported. 

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Kyle978
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12/1/2022 10:50am

Calling Ping "Fake News" would cut much deeper than any lawsuit. 

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KONG 2
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12/1/2022 10:51am

If you start suing for alledged fake news, you're gonna need to build a lot of new courthouses.

Laughing

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12/1/2022 10:54am

The short answer is yes, but that's not going to happen. 

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fourfourone
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12/1/2022 10:56am

Too bad we can't sue him for being a total douchebag. 

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12/1/2022 10:57am

You can sue for deformation. Yes.

But saying roczen declined a drug test is not deformation. Ans it is actually fact roczen declined the test.

 

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12/1/2022 11:10am

You can sue anyone for any reason. Whether or not the judge laughs at you and throws out your case is what you have to find out.

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12/1/2022 11:15am
mx313 wrote:

You can sue for deformation. Yes.

But saying roczen declined a drug test is not deformation. Ans it is actually fact roczen declined the test.

 

Man, if you're going to post like you know how the system works, at least use the right word 🤦🏼‍♂️

It's defamation. It's a civil lawsuit and anyone can sue anyone, pretty much. 

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12/1/2022 11:17am

Wow, the Ping sentiment on this forum is changing rapidly Whistling

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12/1/2022 11:18am
Man, if you're going to post like you know how the system works, at least use the right word 🤦🏼‍♂️ It's defamation. It's a civil lawsuit...

Man, if you're going to post like you know how the system works, at least use the right word 🤦🏼‍♂️

It's defamation. It's a civil lawsuit and anyone can sue anyone, pretty much. 

Defamation pertains to someone losing either current or future business opportunities due to whatever negative information is publicized about them. Ken would have to prove that he lost business due to what Ping said in order to claim defamation. 

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12/1/2022 11:23am
neysbo wrote:

Basically for slander and misinformation on both things he reported. 

So what did Ping say that qualifies as "slander" ? 

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12/1/2022 11:26am

Fuck the Sue Happy people of this world ! So sick of this way of thinking  !! 

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12/1/2022 11:29am
Man, if you're going to post like you know how the system works, at least use the right word 🤦🏼‍♂️ It's defamation. It's a civil lawsuit...

Man, if you're going to post like you know how the system works, at least use the right word 🤦🏼‍♂️

It's defamation. It's a civil lawsuit and anyone can sue anyone, pretty much. 

MX Guy wrote:
Defamation pertains to someone losing either current or future business opportunities due to whatever negative information is publicized about them. Ken would have to prove that...

Defamation pertains to someone losing either current or future business opportunities due to whatever negative information is publicized about them. Ken would have to prove that he lost business due to what Ping said in order to claim defamation. 

Oh I understand the law and elements, I was just correcting the "deformation" lawsuit reference 😂

It's ridiculous a lawsuit was even brought up, in my opinion. 

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12/1/2022 11:31am

Fuck the Sue Happy people of this world ! So sick of this way of thinking  !! 

Agreed.... and I'm not much of a Pinger fan these days.

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12/1/2022 11:33am

ping , WTS , walty wanders , kooksley all cut from the same cloth , clickbait nonsense 

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12/1/2022 11:35am Edited Date/Time 12/1/2022 12:29pm
Wow, the Ping sentiment on this forum is changing rapidly 

Wow, the Ping sentiment on this forum is changing rapidly Whistling

I'm surprised it's taken this long. The dude has been condescending to everyone in this industry, especially the fans. He feels he's smarter than everyone in it - but in reality, he's just kind of a big fish in a small pond. 

I said this in the Sexton to KTM thread:

"It's been entertaining watching Ping try to wrap his head around the real world when he spent the first 30+ years of his life with his head up his own ass. Clearly all this new information is hard for him to process and sort through."

I have been in and out of the moto industry since I was a teenager, and some of my closest friends are current or former top riders. When they are balls deep in racing, there is little-to-no focus on current events and how to world works. When they retire and start catching as glimpse of the real world, it is really hard for them to process all the information and they get overwhelmed. That's why you see so many former riders making social media posts quoting QAnon-inspired articles. 

I am a partner in a company that makes composite pipelines for Oil & Gas - I am as conservative as they come. But my opinions and beliefs are based on the experiences I have doing business and living in the real world. As a matter of fact, I just returned from a conference with all the major players in Oil & Gas, future fuels (green technologies) and multiple government agencies, including big time politicians. I spent 3 days getting the inside line on the future of energy around the world. 

When I'm involved in the moto industry, my blinders are put on a bit from reality and I begin to become out of touch. I am disconnected and my opinions don't hold much water.  

When I probe my racing buddies why their feelings are so strong on topics, their arguments last about 15-30 seconds and they begin to see the holes in their own stories. 

Ping needs to be able to look at the chaos around him, not freak out, and figure out how to make a big impact, not just noise. Or he can figure out how to best navigate through this crazy world for him and his family, and enjoy the fact he gets to escape from reality and live in the moto bubble.

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12/1/2022 11:37am

It isn’t only Ping saying Astephen isn’t making 100% sense here..

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12/1/2022 11:43am

I am a big fan of the WTS, but I’ve tried to like Ping for years now and the dude is just as arrogant as they come. His social media use just publicizes it for every one to see, I really thought it was weak and cringey to try and make jabs at Vital while boasting about his own forum on Instagram a few weeks back. 
 

Like I said months ago, He’s “Ryno’ing”

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Mr. Afterbar
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12/1/2022 11:49am

Too bad we can't sue him for being a total douchebag. 

You’d be in trouble if people started doing that. 

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Rickyisms wrote:
I am a big fan of the WTS, but I’ve tried to like Ping for years now and the dude is just as arrogant as they...

I am a big fan of the WTS, but I’ve tried to like Ping for years now and the dude is just as arrogant as they come. His social media use just publicizes it for every one to see, I really thought it was weak and cringey to try and make jabs at Vital while boasting about his own forum on Instagram a few weeks back. 
 

Like I said months ago, He’s “Ryno’ing”

Does Ping no longer work for Vital?

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Mr. Afterbar
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12/1/2022 12:11pm

Pingree is the man! Not afraid to speak his mind no matter how many people cry about it. 

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fourfourone
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12/1/2022 12:27pm

Too bad we can't sue him for being a total douchebag. 

You’d be in trouble if people started doing that. 

Someone is salty! 

We can see you swinging from pings nuts from a mile away. 

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Mr. Afterbar
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12/1/2022 12:35pm

Someone is salty! 

We can see you swinging from pings nuts from a mile away. 

Nice try. Couldn’t care less. Too easy. 

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fourfourone
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12/1/2022 12:38pm

Someone is salty! 

We can see you swinging from pings nuts from a mile away. 

Nice try. Couldn’t care less. Too easy. 

You care enough to keep posting.... 

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Mr. Afterbar
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12/1/2022 12:39pm Edited Date/Time 12/1/2022 12:51pm

You care enough to keep posting.... 

That’s because riling up all you negative Nancy’s is fun and easy. 

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lisenbyjacob
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12/1/2022 12:48pm

Whats this all about?

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12/1/2022 12:52pm

You can basically sue anyone for anything, but you won't win unless you have evidence of compensable damages. Unlikely here. 

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12/1/2022 12:57pm
Man, if you're going to post like you know how the system works, at least use the right word 🤦🏼‍♂️ It's defamation. It's a civil lawsuit...

Man, if you're going to post like you know how the system works, at least use the right word 🤦🏼‍♂️

It's defamation. It's a civil lawsuit and anyone can sue anyone, pretty much. 

MX Guy wrote:
Defamation pertains to someone losing either current or future business opportunities due to whatever negative information is publicized about them. Ken would have to prove that...

Defamation pertains to someone losing either current or future business opportunities due to whatever negative information is publicized about them. Ken would have to prove that he lost business due to what Ping said in order to claim defamation. 

I don't know where you got that, but that is completely false. All it has to do is harm your reputation.

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12/1/2022 12:58pm
studworx wrote:
It isn’t only Ping saying Astephen isn’t making 100% sense here..

It isn’t only Ping saying Astephen isn’t making 100% sense here..

Has Mathes looked in the mirror lately??? wanna talk about not a good look... we should create a go-fund-me to help him lose all that extra weight he feels like he needs to keep packing around... 

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fourfourone
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12/1/2022 12:59pm
studworx wrote:
It isn’t only Ping saying Astephen isn’t making 100% sense here..

It isn’t only Ping saying Astephen isn’t making 100% sense here..

SGoodman wrote:
Has Mathes looked in the mirror lately??? wanna talk about not a good look... we should create a go-fund-me to help him lose all that extra...

Has Mathes looked in the mirror lately??? wanna talk about not a good look... we should create a go-fund-me to help him lose all that extra weight he feels like he needs to keep packing around... 

Well, that comment is way off track lol. 

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